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TheFuss
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I like the way Jay uses the camera in this entry, sweeping it around himself and using it to peek round corners. It lets us know that he's worked out, or at least suspects like we do, that Slendy is only visible on camera. I think he's actually walking around looking at the screen, and he's very careful to keep Tim in shot the whole time they're in there - when he's checking the bathroom he gets nervous and runs back really quick because he's left Tim on his own for too long.

I was going to post about the yellow cap next to the cigarette butt (when Jay is at the tunnel) being a spray paint cap, but it looks more like a pen lid on second viewing. Any significant instances of yellow ink round the hospital? Bit of a stretch I know, but it looked like it hadn't been there long - if it had, it would have blown down that hole by now. It was left there recently I think. I don't know how common brown-filter cigarettes are in the States (here in the UK they're all green filter) so I don't know how important that is, but I do think both those things are there for a reason.

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Meudwy
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I'm pretty sure this is who's in the window:



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Meudwy
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TheFuss wrote:
I was going to post about the yellow cap next to the cigarette butt (when Jay is at the tunnel) being a spray paint cap, but it looks more like a pen lid on second viewing.


I believe that's a cap for splicing wires together.



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Andvalli
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A decent entry (if a bit of a tease with Jay jumping into the tunnel). I'm really curious now as to how Tim will inevitably get dragged back into the game. Either Jay will have to come clean to him or he'll regain his memory through other means... Because at this point it makes little sense to me for him to still be faking amnesia.

pravado wrote:
Also the end of entry 22 was most likely Alex lying to make himself look innocent, it's unlikely that he was trying to escape the operator. He didn't even seem that scared in entry 26.


This doesn't have much to do with the current entry, but I never really got why people think Alex would willingly act as the Operator's lackey. Early-series evidence clearly shows him being afraid of and not quite understanding it - he's even shown having been physically harmed in #14. Do you just suppose that there was some turning point in the story that we have yet to see (and probably never will, since this is the last season and all of the '06 tapes that we know of are done with) where Alex somehow discovered that sacrificing others would appease the Operator and save his own ass? Even though he's usually coherent when he's being antagonistic I feel that it's more reasonable to assume he's being controlled. Or at least is so crazy due to the Operator that you can't really attribute his behavior to himself.

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Jamocha101
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aidansean wrote:

On the subject of fires and arson, but completely unrelated, didn't Alex have a lighter in Entry #50, even though he doesn't smoke? What was that about?


I'm in the Alex-Kept-The-Lighter-To-Eventually-Burn-The-Tape(s) Camp. Don't see why he would have burnt down Jay's apartment, I always did assume that it was Masky or Totheark. Besides that, a lot of people who aren't smokers keep lighters for the sake of it.

Andvalli wrote:
A decent entry (if a bit of a tease with Jay jumping into the tunnel). I'm really curious now as to how Tim will inevitably get dragged back into the game. Either Jay will have to come clean to him or he'll regain his memory through other means... Because at this point it makes little sense to me for him to still be faking amnesia.


It's called timnesia.
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Andvalli wrote:
This doesn't have much to do with the current entry, but I never really got why people think Alex would willingly act as the Operator's lackey. Early-series evidence clearly shows him being afraid of and not quite understanding it - he's even shown having been physically harmed in #14. . . . I feel that it's more reasonable to assume he's being controlled. Or at least is so crazy due to the Operator that you can't really attribute his behavior to himself.


I have always been of the same opinion. He's not acting willingly, he's being coerced or (at least partially) controlled by the Operator. He may be doing things on purpose, but when the alternative is getting the full slendy right to the dome he doesn't really have a choice. This could also explain his change in demeanor -- he's not happy about what he's doing.

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conundrum768 wrote:
Andvalli wrote:
This doesn't have much to do with the current entry, but I never really got why people think Alex would willingly act as the Operator's lackey. Early-series evidence clearly shows him being afraid of and not quite understanding it - he's even shown having been physically harmed in #14. . . . I feel that it's more reasonable to assume he's being controlled. Or at least is so crazy due to the Operator that you can't really attribute his behavior to himself.


I have always been of the same opinion. He's not acting willingly, he's being coerced or (at least partially) controlled by the Operator. He may be doing things on purpose, but when the alternative is getting the full slendy right to the dome he doesn't really have a choice. This could also explain his change in demeanor -- he's not happy about what he's doing.

Definitely being forced/controlled to sacrifice ppl in the beginning, but i think he killed Bruce on his own(or at the very least, he snapped because of oppy, then killed him)
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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
Definitely being forced/controlled to sacrifice ppl in the beginning, but i think he killed Bruce on his own(or at the very least, he snapped because of oppy, then killed him)


I can agree with forced/coerced, but I think controlled is too far. JMHO, I agree about the Bruce incident, though.

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Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi
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conundrum768 wrote:
Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi wrote:
Definitely being forced/controlled to sacrifice ppl in the beginning, but i think he killed Bruce on his own(or at the very least, he snapped because of oppy, then killed him)


I can agree with forced/coerced, but I think controlled is too far. JMHO, I agree about the Bruce incident, though.

IDK, it seems like he's not in control of himself in the entries that sacrifices occur/slendy shows up(in S2/S3 at least)
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TheKraken
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I'm willing to bet Bruce and Jay were done entirely on Alex's own without much Operator influence at all.

Alex had been hunted up and down Rosswood by creepy people in masks, something that would put anyone on edge, degraded attitude or not. Couple this with Jay's incredibly suspicious behavior, following him, stalking him, filming his every move for months, and you've got a recipe for an explosion waiting to happen. For all Alex knows, Jay's the guy in the hoodie.

I don't know how Alex could ever mistake Bruce for Jay (I'm guessing this might be where Operator influence comes in, if there is any?), but he knows someone has been following him around, and he knows he's got to put a stop to this, one way or another.

And then of course he realizes hey, he killed the wrong dude here, and now it's time to rectify that mistake and put Jay down for good.

There's just a rather large difference between Alex taking out Brian and Tim and Alex taking out Bruce and his attempt on Jay. At the hospital and annex, Alex is very calm and collected. He talks normally (if rather shortly) with Tim, but once we see him staring at the Operator symbol, his demeanor shifts just a little into something colder. There's a noticeable change there before he goes and beats Tim down.

Alex in the woods is visibly upset. He gets emotional, he yells, he makes the classic villain mistake of monologuing at his would-be victims. It's all him, and no one else.

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Blank_Zero
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Zebez wrote:
Necronoxide wrote:

That said, I'm still hoping for Hoodie to be Sarah. Partially because its a total sausage fest in here and also because that'd bring up a pretty good "lolwat" factor


Most of the internet is a sausage fest haha


Fixed.

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TheKraken wrote:
I'm willing to bet Bruce and Jay were done entirely on Alex's own without much Operator influence at all.

Alex had been hunted up and down Rosswood by creepy people in masks, something that would put anyone on edge, degraded attitude or not. Couple this with Jay's incredibly suspicious behavior, following him, stalking him, filming his every move for months, and you've got a recipe for an explosion waiting to happen. For all Alex knows, Jay's the guy in the hoodie.

I don't know how Alex could ever mistake Bruce for Jay (I'm guessing this might be where Operator influence comes in, if there is any?), but he knows someone has been following him around, and he knows he's got to put a stop to this, one way or another.

And then of course he realizes hey, he killed the wrong dude here, and now it's time to rectify that mistake and put Jay down for good.

There's just a rather large difference between Alex taking out Brian and Tim and Alex taking out Bruce and his 1st attempt on Jay. At the hospital and annex, Alex is very calm and collected. He talks normally (if rather shortly) with Tim, but once we see him staring at the Operator symbol, his demeanor shifts just a little into something colder. There's a noticeable change there before he goes and beats Tim down.

Alex in the woods is visibly upset. He gets emotional, he yells, he makes the classic villain mistake of monologuing at his would-be victims. It's all him, and no one else.

i agree Smile[/b]
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Meudwy wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is who's in the window:






It's uncanny!

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Well that brings back some childhood memories

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TheKraken wrote:

I don't know how Alex could ever mistake Bruce for Jay (I'm guessing this might be where Operator influence comes in, if there is any?), but he knows someone has been following him around, and he knows he's got to put a stop to this, one way or another.


I'm going to use some syllogism logic here:

Slendy makes people crazy.
Alex "knows" Slendy.
Therefore, Alex is crazy.

Which leads to:

Crazy people may hallucinate.
Alex is crazy.
Therefore, Alex may hallucinate.

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Somebody told me they didn't imagine Alex being that delusional, but I don't know. Slenderfutz does insane things to you.

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