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[VIDEO] Entry #58
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onetruepurple
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Nice post.

pravado wrote:
after being "operated on," a person begins "sleepwalking" in a sense and sort of autopilots themself. they "wake up" (fully regain consciousness) later on with no recollection of anything happening

I like to call this "being operated".

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Returning to this entry, it is curious the parallels between the persecution of Hoody in this entry, and this from Tim at # 50: both are shown, run, stay, run again... to lead Jay to both tunnels.

Jay's impressions:
Entry #50 (09:17):
"It looks like Tim led me to the tunnel..."
Entry #58:
"It seems like he was leading me to that maintenance tunnel"

a complete déjà vu...

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I noticed that, too. I don't remember Jay finding anything in the other tunnel, but I suspect he'll at least find something here.
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Jamocha101 wrote:
I don't remember Jay finding anything in the other tunnel
Well, that was where Alex killed The Beardyman.
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So, Tim really does have amnesia,
but he is definitely keeping some things secret from Jay.

I really hope next entry is either a revealing confrontation with Tim
or we get to see what is in the tunnel.

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Pravado, I really liked your post where you explained the stages of Operator sickness, and what freaks me out is, what if the Operator made Tim cough on purpose? Think about it, he was fine, just hiding out and waiting for Alex to leave, and then he started coughing and it looked like his eyes were glowing, if Alex had heard him he would've been able to find him easily. That's what scares me about the Operator, what he can cause to happen just by being around someone!

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Now I think the operator had been around alex for longer than we are led to believe. The fact that he was filming a movie brings a camera into play, and allows him to actually see the operator. Before this, he was encountering him and just having his mind erased, with no camera filming to capture the footage so he would never remember. It's most likely that he came to alex in his sleep (most of season 1 is night footage) so it would explain how alex never noticed time missing.

It is then that he starts getting paranoid and realizing what is happening to him, and begins filming himself constantly. He realizes this guy can enter his house even when he locks all his doors and that he follows him to areas far from his house. He gives up hope in trying to run from him.

Then he gets the idea to give the operator substitutes. He gives up Brian, Seth, and Tim before moving away. I believe Seth came before the other two, but that's just me.

The operator begins following Tim and Hoody for the next 3 years, while Alex gets off scott free. Hoody (seth or brian) and Tim somehow figure out that masks can prevent the sickness from entering your body in some fashion (notice how tim never coughs as masky?), and spend their time dealing with the operator, trying to learn his tricks.

Entry 40 is the attempted sacrifice of Jay. Jay gets away and remembers the entire encounter. Now that the operator is attached to alex again, he needs someone to sacrifice to get him off his back, and Jay is the perfect person to do it.

Entry 43 shows Alex sacrifice himself to the operator for some reason.

Around entry 43, he starts giving in to the operator. He still films himself because he wants to know what happens to him while he's "unconscious", but he accepts that he will not be able to shake the operator. This leads to his rage.

That's all I got. Sounded better in my head but oh well.

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slendydreaming wrote:
Pravado, I really liked your post where you explained the stages of Operator sickness, and what freaks me out is, what if the Operator made Tim cough on purpose? Think about it, he was fine, just hiding out and waiting for Alex to leave, and then he started coughing and it looked like his eyes were glowing, if Alex had heard him he would've been able to find him easily. That's what scares me about the Operator, what he can cause to happen just by being around someone!


Yeah I think that was the point. Tim covered his mouth so Alex wouldn't hear him, but he didn't realize that the thing he should have been hiding from was the thing making him cough, not Alex.

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I don't know, but something I've been thinking.

The first season and the second season, both had "hidden tapes." The tape found at the red tower and the tape Alex was keeping (with Brian's last moments on it).

I'm assuming that there will be another hidden tape in this season.

Considering what seemed to happen with Tim, Brian, and Seth, I'm wondering if considering Alex's "all gone" moment implies that he attacked the characters he mentioned. There's a chance that Jay could find a video where he is attacked. Also considering the events of Entry 13 and Exit, Alex and Jay at a somewhat secluded location with the Operator. What happens after Jay catches up to Alex? Did he ever say?

Tim seemingly survived his encounter. So Jay might have as well, but could have had his memory wiped.

Finally, you know I thought of something. In Entry 54, do you think Tim saying he is not "the movie guy" and Alex is "the movie guy" could have a bit more significance than it being a weird echo of himself. A lot of people believe that Tim was working with TTA. Perhaps this was an in-game clue to Jay that Tim is not TTA. That is he is not the one making the videos. I'm not sure, if the clue is intentional on Tim's part or just a character insight for Jay to pick up on.

As I wrote this I realized, that all the major characters have used a camera and had a video they recorded shown in an entry; save for one person.

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EmeraldWind wrote:
I don't know, but something I've been thinking.

The first season and the second season, both had "hidden tapes." The tape found at the red tower and the tape Alex was keeping (with Brian's last moments on it).

I'm assuming that there will be another hidden tape in this season.

Considering what seemed to happen with Tim, Brian, and Seth, I'm wondering if considering Alex's "all gone" moment implies that he attacked the characters he mentioned. There's a chance that Jay could find a video where he is attacked. Also considering the events of Entry 13 and Exit, Alex and Jay at a somewhat secluded location with the Operator. What happens after Jay catches up to Alex? Did he ever say?

Tim seemingly survived his encounter. So Jay might have as well, but could have had his memory wiped.

Finally, you know I thought of something. In Entry 54, do you think Tim saying he is not "the movie guy" and Alex is "the movie guy" could have a bit more significance than it being a weird echo of himself. A lot of people believe that Tim was working with TTA. Perhaps this was an in-game clue to Jay that Tim is not TTA. That is he is not the one making the videos. I'm not sure, if the clue is intentional on Tim's part or just a character insight for Jay to pick up on.

As I wrote this I realized, that all the major characters have used a camera and had a video they recorded shown in an entry; save for one person.


SARAH!

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EmeraldWind wrote:

Tim seemingly survived his encounter. So Jay might have as well, but could have had his memory wiped.


Tim did survive his encounter...otherwise, how would he be alive now?

Anyway, I'm starting to get the eerie feeling that Timnesia isn't authentic; I really don't want to believe it, because that just seems like a weak reveal to me, but it's an impression that I keep on getting. I can't figure out what else "Liars Everywhere" could possibly mean.
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Jamocha101 wrote:
EmeraldWind wrote:

Tim seemingly survived his encounter. So Jay might have as well, but could have had his memory wiped.


Tim did survive his encounter...otherwise, how would he be alive now?


That is what scares me about my theory about what is going on. I hope I'm wrong because if I'm right... things will get weird. That said though, I doubt I'm right.

As for the Timnesia being authentic, I'm wondering if Tim is treating Jay the same way Jay is treating Tim. Withholding info so the other guy doesn't attack him.

Though I'm on the side of Tim doesn't remember everything. At the least Tim's reaction to Jay bringing up the other building. Jay says Tim mentioned it, but it was Alex. Tim is surprised and even wonders why he would bring that up. Tim definitely had some reason not to go there before MH even began. But if he was pretending to have amnesia then he probably would have let things roll without the comment.

Granted, how much Tim remembers is still a factor because he might know more than he lets on, but still have Timnesia regarding other things.

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EmeraldWind wrote:


As for the Timnesia being authentic, I'm wondering if Tim is treating Jay the same way Jay is treating Tim. Withholding info so the other guy doesn't attack him.


You know, that just made me wonder if Jay has any similar incidents he doesn't remember. We know he has lost time other than the big 7 month period. What if he too was tackling unsuspecting persons and babbling cryptically and has no idea? That would certainly make things more interesting, and explain why TTA always seems to be ambiguous about why they're helping Jay. (Other than being cryptic mask-wearing weirdos, that is.)

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Ithilwen22 wrote:
EmeraldWind wrote:


As for the Timnesia being authentic, I'm wondering if Tim is treating Jay the same way Jay is treating Tim. Withholding info so the other guy doesn't attack him.


You know, that just made me wonder if Jay has any similar incidents he doesn't remember. We know he has lost time other than the big 7 month period. What if he too was tackling unsuspecting persons and babbling cryptically and has no idea? That would certainly make things more interesting, and explain why TTA always seems to be ambiguous about why they're helping Jay. (Other than being cryptic mask-wearing weirdos, that is.)
That was one of the big theories I had when the videos of a not-so-conscious Jay leaving his hotel room were released.
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Ithilwen22 wrote:

You know, that just made me wonder if Jay has any similar incidents he doesn't remember. We know he has lost time other than the big 7 month period. What if he too was tackling unsuspecting persons and babbling cryptically and has no idea? That would certainly make things more interesting, and explain why TTA always seems to be ambiguous about why they're helping Jay. (Other than being cryptic mask-wearing weirdos, that is.)


I never liked the whole "Jay is obliviously being a Masky" spectrum, but it seems plausible to me if you place it in the chronology of season one. Jay running around as a mask-wearing, people-tackling weirdo in between his memory gaps. The only reason I think this is a possiblity is because it brings me back to Entry ######; "return to us," or whatever was said. And also Masky leaving a mask on the door knob in that one entry, indicating an "invitation" to Jay.
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