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[SPEC] Who is totheark?
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Jamocha101
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Like Sarah, I never really considered Seth to be of much importance to the story in general, though I don't deny that there's a possiblity he could at least be part of Totheark. Epsecailly when there's that mysterious "S" in previous Totheark videos. However, I still don't consider Totheark to be one person in particular; I envision it being at least two people (Tim and Hoody, whoever that is) who are working together to accomplish one common goal, and we all know what that is.

Entry ######'s differing pronouns are difficult to decipher, though. It's the biggest indication that Totheark is only one being and he has henchmen or whatever that follow him around and try to help him for the benefit of the final goal. "And you will lead me to the ark [or Totheark]." which contradicts, "Return to us." However, that implies that Masky is Totheark, because he was the one that was featured in this particular video, even though it's pretty dern obvious that Tim isn't Totheark by himself. Perhaps Masky appearing multiple times in that video were kind of meant to convey that he was the bigger threat, while Hoody's more the brains dude.

And also in the most recent video, "Close by, I see you, as always." And then, "Did you see me? I saw you. Always a possiblity that Totheark videos are made by different people which accounts for the different styles and wordings, but it's anybody's game right now. Hoody appears to not be working without Tim right now, if the latter's Timnesia is real, which might be why he used singular pronouns in Session, but that doesn't give reason for the previous videos where that's occured.

Obviously though, I'm just repeating stuff that has already been said. Just typing it out makes me more confused than I thought I might be.
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Like I've said before, the reason Seth makes more sense to me than brian is because totheark has extensive knowledge on film editing, and brian and sarah were just actors, whereas seth did all the editing and camerawork. He had access to all of the footage from MH (which tta does) whereas brian didn't.

And entry #### backs up my point that tta is one person. he says "this has been a game for us (me and tim) - i am coming for you (i, as in totheark, the sole person who uses this account).

him and tim obviously work together, but i think that tim and totheark are two seperate things.


if you want more proof, i'm pretty sure joseph says in the s2 dvd commentary that he plays "totheark" during the response to entry 39, and troy says something like "to clarify, we're not saying joseph is the person, we're saying he wore the outfit."

all evidence points to tta and hoody being one in the same. thats just how i see things. not saying you're wrong.

and again, while i believe seth is the most suitable, it will most likely be brian, and kiril's bad editing job with bleeps on one segment of the s2 dvd pretty much solidifies it as brian for me

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Jamocha101 wrote:
This is extremely late, but:

They were together in Entry #54. Not sure if that adds or takes away anything from your theory, but yeah.


Thanks for pointing this out- I'd ripped the Season 1&2 DVDs and put them on my phone, so I missed the Season 3 entries. I don't think that harms the theory, especially if Tim and Brian are living in the same house. I rewatched the video a couple of times to see if Tim's "Oh, here's Brian" is genuine (albeit mild) surprise or not, but can't tell. Meh, I don't think it's important.

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They don't live in the same house, they live in the same complex i think, or at least right near each other.

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pravado wrote:
Like I've said before, the reason Seth makes more sense to me than brian is because totheark has extensive knowledge on film editing, and brian and sarah were just actors, whereas seth did all the editing and camerawork. He had access to all of the footage from MH (which tta does) whereas brian didn't.


I do also agree with that; I meant to bring it up, but forgot I guess. I thought perhaps Seth was a third member of Totheark that did the video editing, whilst Brian is the main dude and Timasky is the soldier, but of course, it is always a possiblity for Seth to be Hoody. You've got good evidence, but I guess I'm hesitant to sit in a certain camp right now because the situation is so ambiguous. As for the thing in the season two commentary, I seem to remember them using the term "Mystery Fella" instead of Totheark, but I could definitely be wrong. I have a long history of not remembering things accurately.
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pravado wrote:
They don't live in the same house, they live in the same complex i think, or at least right near each other.


Oh, that makes sense too! Now I've just got an image of Brian saying to Tim "I thought I was on Alexwatch tonight..."

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pravado wrote:
Like I've said before, the reason Seth makes more sense to me than brian is because totheark has extensive knowledge on film editing, and brian and sarah were just actors, whereas seth did all the editing and camerawork. He had access to all of the footage from MH (which tta does) whereas brian didn't.


I have to question that. Especially considering what Alex said to Seth in entry #9 (though this might have just been him being a dick):

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I…I gave you one job. All you were supposed to do was come in here, set up the camera, make sure it doesn't fall over, and press record ONCE. You don't stop it at all. I made this extremely clear.


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saksxalmo wrote:
I have to question that. Especially considering what Alex said to Seth in entry #9 (though this might have just been him being a dick):

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I…I gave you one job. All you were supposed to do was come in here, set up the camera, make sure it doesn't fall over, and press record ONCE. You don't stop it at all. I made this extremely clear.


True true. Jay has editing skills, and he was just the script person. Just because he was an actor doesn't mean that Brian couldn't have the skills necessary to make TTA videos.

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Crazy idea, may have been suggested previously, but TO = TTA? I mean, he glitches out videos when he's on them, isn't it fair to assume the same would happen if he made them?

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sweetgums
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homg you guys what if totheARK actually stands for "Alex is the Real Killer"?!? lolol



Seriously though, with the more recent videos I think that the ark is not an actual place, but more of an state, in which TTA (mainly the old cast, sans Jay and Alex) can be free from TO. Death, maybe?

I don't think Jessica is part of it, though. She's probably on some sort of Eldritch Dimension or worse. I can only wonder if you can bring people back from... there?

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sweetgums wrote:
homg you guys what if totheARK actually stands for "Alex is the Real Killer"?!? lolol


Caught me there for a second. My hand was half away my face when I saw you were joking.
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Whisku
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After tonight's meeting between Jay and Tim, we'll hopefully find out if Tim has anything to do with TTA, and what.

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There's a bit of dialogue in 59 where Jay goes, "Me? A psychopath? What about all those videos you-", to which Tim immediately replies, "SHUT UP!" I think this implies, at the very least, that Jay too suspects that Tim is totheark, which is, I think, the first time this has popped up. Tim's reaction, to me, shows that Jay may have been hitting on some memories Tim was trying to forget. This may show, conclusively, that Tim is totheark.

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InsaneCucumber wrote:
Crazy idea, may have been suggested previously, but TO = TTA? I mean, he glitches out videos when he's on them, isn't it fair to assume the same would happen if he made them?


This was the first thing I thought, but then I figured that the Operator, in all his other-worldly slendiness and apparent penchant for getting others to do stuff for him, doesn't seem like the type to use YouTube. =P

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AnonEMoss wrote:
There's a bit of dialogue in 59 where Jay goes, "Me? A psychopath? What about all those videos you-", to which Tim immediately replies, "SHUT UP!" I think this implies, at the very least, that Jay too suspects that Tim is totheark, which is, I think, the first time this has popped up. Tim's reaction, to me, shows that Jay may have been hitting on some memories Tim was trying to forget. This may show, conclusively, that Tim is totheark.


Doesn't show it at all, that's just one way to interpretate that dialog: they were talking about Marble Hornets (the Youtube channel) and Jay meant the videos of Masky attacking people, breaking in everyother's houses, etc.

On another note, Jay has said on twitter how TTA's videos look like "they are made by different people", judging for the inconcistence and change of styles between them, I guess.
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