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Stanislav
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 		Oops. For some reason (i am durr) i was thinking that he did have a hearing aid, but they just hadn't cataloged it at the time of the documents writing :\

eta: wooo, I'm now a veteran, apparently! Where's my medal?

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Stanislav wrote:
Oops. For some reason (i am durr) i was thinking that he did have a hearing aid, but they just hadn't cataloged it at the time of the documents writing :\

eta: wooo, I'm now a veteran, apparently! Where's my medal?

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 		Well done with the medical records, Droshi! From these pages it looks like a) slendersickness can kill (I suspected this, based on the spitting up of blood, but renal failure is an even more urgent complaint) and b) Tim was already paranoid at the point of Renal failure, and only admitted five months later. Without the renal failure who knows how long he might have gone without the mental health care?

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Droshi
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aidansean wrote:
Well done with the medical records, Droshi! From these pages it looks like a) slendersickness can kill (I suspected this, based on the spitting up of blood, but renal failure is an even more urgent complaint) and b) Tim was already paranoid at the point of Renal failure, and only admitted five months later. Without the renal failure who knows how long he might have gone without the mental health care?


He would probably be Masky 24/7. Haha.

I looked up the side effects of renal failure:

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Symptoms:

Bloody stools
Breath odor
Bruising easily
Changes in mental status or mood
Decreased appetite
Decreased sensation, especially in the hands or feet
Fatigue
Flank pain (between the ribs and hips)
Hand tremor (haven't we seen this at least once? Not sure)
High blood pressure
Metallic taste in mouth
Nausea or vomiting, may last for days
Nosebleeds
Persistent hiccups
Prolonged bleeding
Seizures
Slow, sluggish movements
Swelling - generalized (fluid retention)
Swelling of the ankle, foot, and leg


Looks like he has had enough symptoms of renal failure, at least enough to warrant testing. But I'm no doctor. Razz

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 		People have been discussing why slendy never hurts anyone directly, and what he's actually trying to do. Something occurred to me, reading all of that: in Marble Hornets, slendy goes by The Operator. That name has been indicated in the videos, I believe, and it raises a question.

What, exactly, does he operate?

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aidansean
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Droshi wrote:
He would probably be Masky 24/7. Haha.


The idea of a five year old masky just sounds so cute! Someone needs to fan art this now.

Droshi wrote:
I looked up the side effects of renal failure:
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Hand tremor (haven't we seen this at least once? Not sure)


Alex's hand twitched in Entry #43 when he approached the Operator.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
OOG Troy commented on how well done it was. It was scripted, but it sounds like Troy doubted it would be done properly and on camera.


Droshi wrote:
Looks like he has had enough symptoms of renal failure, at least enough to warrant testing. But I'm no doctor. Razz


I doubt it; untreated renal failure tends to kill within a few days. Treatments can last years, but it requires regular dialysis visits, and something that Tim/Masky cannot sustain. (In Entry #59 Tim said that a period of 3 weeks passed without him noticing, which is probably long enough to kill him.) I am a doctor but not a medical one .

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Droshi
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applepialamode wrote:
People have been discussing why slendy never hurts anyone directly, and what he's actually trying to do. Something occurred to me, reading all of that: in Marble Hornets, slendy goes by The Operator. That name has been indicated in the videos, I believe, and it raises a question.

What, exactly, does he operate?

The people he is affecting/manipulating. That's what I've always thought, at least. Like a puppetmaster.

Also, another thing worth mentioning about the medical forms. on 12/20/95, Tim was admitted at the University Medical Center. He had apparently been experiencing insomnia, headaches, and some sort of mood-changing behavior that warranted them to write "possible disorder" in the symptoms list.

It is also worth noting that at this point in time, Tim was not taking any medication (see the "N/A" under current medications and dosages). This was likely the first time he was taken to a doctor for these symptoms, but it was serious enough that he was checked in to stay at the hospital. At the top is a list of his valuables - His glasses were to stay at bedside, but his clothing was apparently to be sent home - another indication that the stay was at least somewhat extensive. Due to the date and the information on this form, it's somewhat safe to assume he was somewhere between 8-10 years old when his nightmare began.

On the second form, dated 7/4/02, Tim had been scheduled for a dialysis session, seven years after his first visit for what we can only assume is related. At this point his symptoms would probably be more severe, with bleeding, weakness, and mood changes occurring (as evidenced by the circled "Patient/Family Uncooperative" tracking code).

Edit: Or perhaps 2002 was simply the point at which his kidneys started failing.

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 		lost in page 17...

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 		I asked a question, dozed off, and woke up to ~8 new pages. Thanks to those who answered, and remind me not to do that again.

Droshi wrote:
Edit: Just looked up dialysis on Wikipedia, unsure of its exact purpose admittedly. Sounds provocative, considering the history of MH and water.


Your kidneys filter waste from your blood and ship it to the bladder to be expelled from the body. Dialysis is a treatment for folks whose kidneys aren't doing the job anymore.

Poor Tim. Even as a kid, he couldn't take a leak in peace.

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aidansean
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 		Oh wait, I screwed up the years. Mental health problems first, renal failure second. Not that makes it any better though...

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DakotaWHTMN
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 		I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been said before. I'm starting to believe that Tim is definitely hiding something about that hospital.

In Entry #58, he tells Jay "I've only been here a few times" then, when they're leaving, he says "I've had enough of that place for a lifetime" and now we find medical records from a hospital that, in my opinion, had to have recently burned down.

Tim says that there's guards on the property of where the burnt down hospital is. If this hospital burned down in the 60's or 70's, why would they just be guarding it for 30-40 years and not do anything with it? It makes more sense if it just burned down say like 10-15 years ago.

I'm starting to believe that there's something pretty big that Tim is hiding. Especially since Hoody put those documents way down in the tunnels.

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SaferSaturnX
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 		So here's what I get out of the entry/reading everyone's posts:

1. It makes the most sense to me that the footsteps were Alex. Although it's been suggested, since TTA is trying to kill Alex or get Alex killed, I really doubt Alex is dead at the moment. We've established that both Alex and Tim know about Jay's Twitter posts, so they can both stalk him pretty much whenever. I believe the footsteps were Alex because the Operator always seems to follow him around. Alex probably tried to scare Jay out of the tunnel using the Operator. Maybe he didn't want Jay to see the medical records (implying that Alex too knows more than he's letting on). If that's the case, he and Slendy got there too late.

2. It's pretty clear to me that Hoody set all of this up (implying heavily that Hoody is TTA, or a part of TTA in any case). We saw Hoody hanging around the hospital and go through the tunnel in the earlier entry, so "follow me" could only really refer to Hoody. Because Hoody was the one leading Jay, it's pretty obvious that Tim is the liar he's talking about. The medical records from 1995 indicate that Tim had been having bouts of "insomnia, headaches, possible delusions", which means he's probably been seeing Slendy for that long. His lie of omission by not telling Jay or anyone else about this makes him a liar.

3. I don't see any teleportation...everyone here keeps bringing up teleportation but I just haven't seen it. Jay was running through the tunnel as quick as he could, and with the camera shaking around (and possibly accidentally turning off/on, or even turning off/on because of the Operator's presence), the images probably look a little jolted. That doesn't mean he teleported. If they answer this by saying "teleportation did it", I'm going to be upset with the story (just a little, though). The wall of pipes just seem like the pipes Jay crawled over earlier when getting to the medical records.

If you didn't read the wall of text, here's the sum up:
- Footsteps were Alex leading Slendy to Jay
- Hoody is TTA and set this whole thing up for Jay
- Tim is the liar by omitting to tell anyone about his past with Slendy
- NOBODY TELEPORTS

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Droshi
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SaferSaturnX wrote:
So here's what I get out of the entry/reading everyone's posts:

1. It makes the most sense to me that the footsteps were Alex. Although it's been suggested, since TTA is trying to kill Alex or get Alex killed, I really doubt Alex is dead at the moment. We've established that both Alex and Tim know about Jay's Twitter posts, so they can both stalk him pretty much whenever. I believe the footsteps were Alex because the Operator always seems to follow him around. Alex probably tried to scare Jay out of the tunnel using the Operator. Maybe he didn't want Jay to see the medical records (implying that Alex too knows more than he's letting on). If that's the case, he and Slendy got there too late.

2. It's pretty clear to me that Hoody set all of this up (implying heavily that Hoody is TTA, or a part of TTA in any case). We saw Hoody hanging around the hospital and go through the tunnel in the earlier entry, so "follow me" could only really refer to Hoody. Because Hoody was the one leading Jay, it's pretty obvious that Tim is the liar he's talking about. The medical records from 1995 indicate that Tim had been having bouts of "insomnia, headaches, possible delusions", which means he's probably been seeing Slendy for that long. His lie of omission by not telling Jay or anyone else about this makes him a liar.

3. I don't see any teleportation...everyone here keeps bringing up teleportation but I just haven't seen it. Jay was running through the tunnel as quick as he could, and with the camera shaking around (and possibly accidentally turning off/on, or even turning off/on because of the Operator's presence), the images probably look a little jolted. That doesn't mean he teleported. If they answer this by saying "teleportation did it", I'm going to be upset with the story (just a little, though). The wall of pipes just seem like the pipes Jay crawled over earlier when getting to the medical records.

If you didn't read the wall of text, here's the sum up:
- Footsteps were Alex leading Slendy to Jay
- Hoody is TTA and set this whole thing up for Jay
- Tim is the liar by omitting to tell anyone about his past with Slendy
- NOBODY TELEPORTS


Two quick things - The medical form says "possible disorder", which I think implies behavioral changes and not so much hallucinations. However, you would still be right if his behavioral changes were because of Slendy.

As for the teleportation thing, I still think it could go either way. It could be the camera cutting out, but judging by what we can see, the run back to the exit of the tunnel was MUCH shorter in distance than the trip in. He made a few turns down long corridors. When he's escaping, he basically runs to the end of the tunnel, climbs under some pipes (which appear to be different than the ones the medical records were near - I don't see how he could climb over the second pipe wall), and is out. He also has memory loss from the moment Slendy shows up until the end of the entry, which fits in with the other teleporting incidents.

Part of me is skeptical, though, because we don't hear the familiar high pitched whine we heard the first time.

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Droshi wrote:
Araenna wrote:
Quick note: The part that said hives was under a list that said Amoxicillin and codeine. The part before hives said Explain (something). This is most likely a list of meds he is allergic to, and the allergic reaction to said meds.

It says "explain reaction" (see my post above) and you are absolutely correct.


I find it interesting he is allergic to the medicines that could help him, especially the amoxicillin. Poor thing was probably in really, really bad shape.

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