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emato
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cherrytree98765 wrote:
Well actually I had sent her an email last night. Though I thought someone else must have told her the cipher already.
This was her response:
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Awhile ago I found a cemetery with all of these unmarked graves. I asked K about it and she said that nobody is buried in them. They signify the "unburied." There are seventeen. I will go there today and take a look at the third unmarked grave. Like you said, I'm not eager to go digging just yet, but I will check it out.
Well at least she's not going to be disturbing anybody.
Hummm 17 graves and 17 rooms.
From journal entry 1:
Journal Entry #1 (mailed for my records)
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There are seventeen rooms upstairs. Kay says that each one has it's own key. I asked her to tell me how to find these keys, and she says I'm not ready. I know I am. I guess I will have to figure out some of this on my own.
One and the same? Do the rooms have occupants that will fill the graves? What does it mean that she (Zea) is not ready yet? Not DOA?
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:46 pm
LatentMoths
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cherrytree98765 wrote:
Well actually I had sent her an email last night. Though I thought someone else must have told her the cipher already.
I sent her a message on Twitter about the third unmarked grave as soon as I figured it out but never got a response back. I would have emailed her but my last email never got a response. She responded to amandel's message on Twitter so I thought that was a good way to get the message to her. Oh well...
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:31 pm
cherrytree98765
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@LatentMoths: My first email never got a response either. I had to email a second time for any response. I'm not sure if it was technical problems or what. At least it wasn't just me.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:43 pm
Seadevil4
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Email from Zea Excerpt:
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I'm starting to wonder if sleeping flowers doesn't have something to with graves?
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:00 pm
cherrytree98765
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Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Posts: 849
New blog post:
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I went to the cemetery today and checked out the section with the seventeen marked graves. K says these represent the "unburied." I looked around and didn't see anything unusual. No footprints, no markings, no recent digging, no notes, no clues.
Then I went into the older part of the cemetery.
I didn't see anything unusual until I came upon a grave that had the following inscription:
Mary
1863
tpkg
pmyq
utoh
imxh
cczf
bvzi
jvjk
fzxhtb
However, this is not the third unmarked grave or even the third marked grave so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:50 pm
emato
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cherrytree98765 wrote:
New blog post:
Quote:
I went to the cemetery today and checked out the section with the seventeen marked graves. K says these represent the "unburied." I looked around and didn't see anything unusual. No footprints, no markings, no recent digging, no notes, no clues.
Then I went into the older part of the cemetery.
I didn't see anything unusual until I came upon a grave that had the following inscription:
Mary
1863
tpkg
pmyq
utoh
imxh
cczf
bvzi
jvjk
fzxhtb
However, this is not the third unmarked grave or even the third marked grave so I'm not sure what to make of it.
The crypto says:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
she doesnt lie here but cant find her rest
Edited to add key
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
BIGD
Also found
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:42 pm
cherrytree98765
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Good job emato. I emailed Zeta a little while back with the decryption. The only comment I have about the cipher is that Mary Shelley was never buried where she wished too:
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According to Jane Shelley, Mary Shelley had asked to be buried with her mother and father; but Percy and Jane, judging the graveyard at St Pancras to be "dreadful", chose to bury her instead at St Peter's Church, Bournemouth, near their new home at Boscombe.[131]
and
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There is a memorial tomb for philosophers and writers Mary Wollstonecraft and William Godwin, though the remains of the couple are now in Bournemouth.
Just in case I've emailed her to look for those names on headstones. It may be referencing the third grave that was never there. (But that's just a wild hunch.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:45 pm
LatentMoths
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emato wrote:
Edited to add key
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
BIGD
Also found
Good job emato. I decoded a little differently.
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I used the date 1863 as the key for a Gronsfeld cipher. BIGD could still be important but didn't want us to chase dead ends if we didn't have to.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:18 am
spoonhead99
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Given the current themes and no surname on the grave, there is also Mary Shelley's mother Mary Wollstonecraft who according to Wikipedia
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She was buried at Old Saint Pancras Churchyard, where her tombstone reads, "Mary Wollstonecraft Godwin, Author of A Vindication of the Rights of Woman: Born 27 April 1759: Died 10 September 1797."[45] (In 1851, her remains were moved by her grandson Percy Florence Shelley to his family tomb in Bournemouth.)
So we have another family member who had their remains moved to a secondary location.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:26 am
cherrytree98765
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Well I can finally post again. I almost wasn't even able to post on IE anymore.
Anyways Zea emailed me back:
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Thank you for the information! Very interesting and sad, about Mary Wollstonecraft. I will look more closely today, but nothing popped out at me yesterday and I'm familiar with her, so I would be surprised if it's there. However, something may turn up.
I am indebted to you for all of your help.
-Z.
"Something" was italacized in the email so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:39 am
spoonhead99
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Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 269 Location: Hastings, UK
I am starting to wonder whether the romantic poetry is just poetry.
We have the date on the headstone of 1863, the second confederate navy jack in the trunk which was originally in use from 1863 - 1865 and from the letter to Mary
Quote:
The distant battlefields still rumble, but someday there will be an end to all war and sadness.
I am wondering whether Mary has more to do with Civil War era America than British romantic poetry.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:06 pm
Zobot257
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Hey, not much to add that others haven't figured put first, but I DID get an interesting email yesterday from our hostess. I asked her how she came to her new home and she said:
"You are the first person to ask me how I came to be in this house.
It's a very interesting story and I'm not really sure how to tell it. It's like a dream, except that I know that I'm awake.
Ok, it's like this. It's like my real life is a remembered dream, and my new life is like a dream, but feels real, like I'm awake.
Does that make sense? I may be rambling...
Thank you so much for writing to me. Please write again.
Yours,
Z
From: David Toboz <rilian257>
To: Zea Bea <imzea>
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Seventeen Rooms
I understand. It is very nice to meet you! You said you have a mystery on your hands, eh? I love mysteries!
Did you come across the house recently?"
Which is intriguing, I may press her for more info...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:23 pm
Seadevil4
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Joined: 14 Mar 2010 Posts: 465 Location: Two seconds in the past, UK
Just the messenger again
cherrytree98765 wrote:
Sorry to do this again, but now it won't even work on IE. *Sigh*
Response from Zea about my email:
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Thank you for the information! Very interesting and sad, about Mary Wollstonecraft. I will look more closely today, but nothing popped out at me yesterday and I'm familiar with her, so I would be surprised if it's there. However, something may turn up.
I am indebted to you for all of your help.
-Z.
Also "Something" was italicized. So yeah.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:56 pm
emato
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For those not following on Twitter, Zea posted some lines from the Emily Dickinson poem, After great pain, a formal feeling comes .
The lines were: (each a separate tweet)
This is the Hour of Lead
Remembered, if outlived,
As Freezing persons, recollect the Snow –
First – Chill – then Stupor – then the letting go –
From the poem: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/177118
Also it seems Beaststriker tweeted about it to her.
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:33 pm
Billy Brown
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Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 196
This looks like fun. I've emailed Z with a few questions and will post if I get a response. Some (likely insubstantial) observations:
There hasn't been a great deal of the letter from Leo Verit. That name is an anagram of 'overt lie' (among other things, admittedly) -- it could be that he's not to be trusted, especially as he contradicts Z at many points in his letter.
Z mentioned meeting somebody called 'G' on Twitter. The post was made on 4th July and mentioned that it was G's birthday. I've looked at famous births/deaths for 4th July but nobody leaps out as obviously being the relevant G here. The only possibility is a time zone difference (I'm in the UK) so I'll check the 3rd and 5th July just in case.
From trying to find significance in the silver rattle for 'Louis', I found a page that mentions that Robert Louis Stevenson was close with Sir Percy Florence Shelley, son of PBS and Mary Shelley -- going so far as to jokingly suggest that Shelley had been 'reborn' as RLS. Probably too tenuous to be a real link but thought I'd mention it just in case.
Z mentioned two letters in her opening blog post but only posted the contents of one. I've asked her about the other one -- again, I'll report back if anything comes of it.
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:02 pm
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