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[pravado]

I have a well written theory that totheark is seth, brian is hoody, and tim is masky. I'll post it when it's done

[Andvalli]

Maybe it's been theorized before, but my current position is that Tim had all these problems before his Operator exposure and he's lying in the sense that he knows this (or at least TTA thinks he does) but claims that his issues are due to Op and Alex. I can't think of any other reason for Tim to be called a liar unless you go so far as to imply his behavior in Entry #59 was entirely an act, and that just seems like a big stretch to me.

[pravado]

[Lithp]

[Andvalli]

Prav: I agree that it's a little farfetched. Maybe Tim is in denial. And the Operator's presence must have at least fueled his issues, so he has something to blame them on other than himself. But the symptoms of Slendysickness that we've seen universally displayed by the characters are coughing, paranoia, and... what else? Those are pretty basic and there's a variety of causes for both.

Still, it could be what I want more than what I find likely. I at least have to be right about Tim having problems before meeting Alex though. And that could very well have been what pissed Hoody off. He and Tim spent all this time acting like Alex was the root of the problem. However he got those medical documents, Hoody probably hasn't had them very long.

[pravado]

Ok so it's plausible, but it would deteriorate Tim's backstory

How would you explain the whole coughing up blood thing? We know from entry 20 that Tim was taking pills (which were revealed as ibuprofen - basic tylenol for headaches). The trail from the blood in the sink in entry 18 or 23 (can't remember) led to a bottle of pills that was in the house Tim was at. Tim took the pills from Jay in entry 16 or 18, implying he took his own pills back. That can't be coincidence.

Tim's symptoms being not operator influenced would make most of what we've been pawing at this season a red herring and that would completely destroy everything they built up.

[Geneaux486]

Jay made it a point to mention that he suspected that the totheark videos weren't all made by one person. The hooded man and Tim have both appeared in totheark videos, totheark and Tim have been in the same places around the same times, etc. Totheark may be more than two people, but there's little doubt in my mind that Tim and the hooded dude are a part of it. As far as the "liar" thing goes, it may be true in the hooded dude's mind, but as we've seen, those guys don't exactly have the most coherent trains of thought.

Also, regarding Tim's symptoms, we may be assuming to much to assume that Tim never crossed paths with the thing before meeting Alex.

[elkapo]

Just an idea ... Tim / Masky may have worked with TTA and then betray him?

[twistedpuppet]

Not sure what betraying they did unless TTA is pissed that Tim almost took out Alex and didn't leave anything for him.

[elkapo]

Perhaps abandoning TTA to have a normal life? Or hiding his past to TTA while working with him?

[EmeraldWind]

I agree with the point that TTA might be calling Tim a liar after his outburst at Jay. We now know that Tim had problems long before the MH shoot and that him blaming Jay, the OP, and Alex for his problems isn't entirely correct and Tim knows it. Granted, the OP could still be the initial reason for it.

It is just that Tim seems to blame the problems entirely on more recent events completely ignoring the fact he had problems before that. What is more, is that we know Tim still remembers his problems and that he seems to have an aversion to the burnt down hospital even before he goes there during the MH shoot. So he can't blame it on memory loss. Someone here said, he is in denial.

He wants to think all his problems are caused by something. His reaction to Jay reflecting the psychopath comment back at him was a bit interesting to me. I think it further shows Tim's denial even after possibly seeing Masky in the Entries.

The thing is though. I think that Hoody originally intended Jay to receive Tim's health information in 58 and that the "He's lying" and "Follow me" messages were there then. Which means that was all there before Tim's outburst. So maybe Tim was lying before the outburst.

Tim did mention a little bit about his health and certainly did lie about it (but you can't blame him, Jay was prying into personal info), but for TTA it may have been enough to call Tim out.

[twistedpuppet]

[jimi060]

I always thought that Masky was some kind of barely sentient slender-beast and TTA just lured or led Masky around to do his bidding, while never interacting with Tim himself. Because Masky never shows any intelligence besides that required to charge at people and grunt and TTA only ever films masky walking or posing with no other interaction between the two other than TTA baiting Alex for him.

[Sirnot1]

Well guys, from the MarbleHornets Twitter we can confirm there will be a continuation of Entry #60 as Entry #60.5.

[pravado]

Well sirnot, you are extremely late to the party. Punch is over there, bathroom is over there.