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[pravado]

Seth was the cameraman for Marble Hornets, seen by entries 9, 12 (alex says seth will be filming the actual cut to sarah), 22, and 54. (In 54 Seth asks Jay if Alex had the tapes they just filmed on with him. Jay says yes, and Seth gets in his car to get them from Alex)

He had to have been the one on the production team to mess around with all of the film. Tim, Brian, and Sarah were actors. Jay was sort of a co-director of the movie; he went location scouting with Alex and sat in on takes. Alex was the executive producer and writer of the script. Seth was the only other member there, he was the one who took all of the footage and put it into the movie. He also edits the sound too that means. This explains where the footage and audio effects in the early TTA videos come from.

If Seth was handling all this footage, wouldn't he notice these irregularities with the operator appearing before alex? Plus, Alex didn't go through all of the tapes to pick the best cuts, etc, Seth was the one who did that, so it's not unreasonable for him to have extra footage from the takes. He most likely watched every cut of every take, and noticed something was up. Plus, Alex's whole flipout on the need to constantly film could have given Seth more of a reason to look through stuff. This would also explain Seth's desire to keep an eye on Jay in Exit, to make sure nothing was going on with him while Alex was around. Either that or Seth somehow found out that Alex had sacrificed him before entry 22 and was keeping an eye on jay to make sure the same thing didn't happen to him.

Advocate's alternate camera angle can be explained by Seth having all of the footage filmed from Alex's camera. The "therewasmore" in the response to entry 12 can also be attributed to Seth having seen the end of that footage, cut the "more" out, and gave the final cut back to Alex. Totheark having the audio for entry 10 fits in here, as does audio going missing from entries 1 and 6. Alex couldn't have edited audio out of a tape straight from his camera, and he doesn't strike me as someone who edits video.

I'd like to believe in the 3 years alex was gone, seth brian and tim worked together to fight the operator and alex. (alex most likely moved after the final sacrifice and the trio had no way of finding him, which would explain why alex claims they weren't bothering him before jay came around) After Jay interviews Tim, the trio know they can't let jay get involved in this because once he's involved, he's involved. So they tell him to come to brians house and try to scare him into stopping the investigation. Either that, or they used Jay as bait to find out what happens when you're taken. They probably found out about the marble hornets channel/twitter around this time too.

At some point alex finds out about the mh channel, sees the entries up to at least 19, and uses jay to try and get to tim. he also determines that he's going to either sacrifice (entry #40 is the attempt) or kill jay for putting the videos on youtube. He ships jay the tape and has him go to the house where he knows Tim will be and he breaks Tim's leg. With Tim out, brian now has to keep an eye on jay. He brings the camera back to jay's car because unlike his encounters, he wants jay to be able to see his own. Brian probably finds out where Alex lives that same day by following him around. Then entry 45 happens a little later on.


Tim's not the camera guy, he's the guy behind the cameraguy. I believe they chose these words to give us a clue. Masky isn't totheark, he's the guy who helps totheark.

So in turn:

Seth = totheark
Brian = Hoody
Tim = Masky

They all go out and do fieldwork. All of them keep an eye on Jay (Tim in 18,19,23,33,etc), Brian in 41 and 58, and Seth in Exit, 39, and the first tta of season 3

The reason Brian now calls Tim out on lying is because they want to help Jay, but Tim doesn't. Tim is mad that Jay lied to him during their first meeting in entry 53 and would have let him go on getting slendynapped.

Seth doesn't really need Jay. He's just helping Jay out because he doesn't think anyone should be alone in a situation like this. I'm willing to bet Seth saw the tape from entry 51 and told Brian, and Brian got the help of Tim since they were friends. They're all wary about letting Jay into their boys club for some reason though.

[Susil]

Pravado:

Sensible-sounding theory - this in particular is something I'd never thought of:

[pravado]

Alex's personal camera footage isn't going to be there, yeah, but we know the operator was around during the initial phases of production. It's not unlikely that the operator appeared in shots without the cast seeing them but the camera picking him up.

Exit is enough proof that totheark was keeping tabs on Jay.

Sarah doesn't figure in. If anything she's the second masky from entry 26. She most likely got taken within the 3 years. I just think if she was going to be part of it then she would be shown in one of the entries by now. The dvd bonus feature isn't something reliable to go on simply because they had to include her in the trailer for continuity

[DHawk314]

I have an objection to that theory. TIM.

Your theory seems to imply that Tim made a conscious decision to join totheark and become Masky. But it's been all but confirmed that isn't what happened. Tim had no idea he was Masky before last month when he Googled Marble Hornets. He switches off between Tim and Masky fairly quickly and not on purpose (Got fired because his job hadn't heard from him for three weeks, Interview With Tim happening fairly shortly before Masky's first appearance.) It seems obvious to me that Tim did not willingly team up with totheark or become Masky, and that Masky is some weird manifestation of his Slenderfucked brain he doesn't control. And I just don't see how that flows with your theory.

[McGregor]

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[DHawk314]

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[Lithp]

That's logical, though I personally think it's pretty far-fetched. My big question is "What is the Ark, then?" Just cryptic, made-up bullshit?

[pravado]

just a metaphor for "safety from the operator for good"

[SignerJ]

*First of all, I must say that I didn't read through the entire thread before posting this.*


I suppose that I am a supporter of two theories right now, one of them mine:

#1) I believe that ToTheArk is someone that has NOT been introduced yet. I think ToTheArk is someone who was around prior to Marble Hornets, and started following Alex and his "experiences" when Alex began investigating The Operator. I believe that the "Exit" video shows this well; someone following Alex and Jay, at a time before Alex did anything to any of the cast of Marble Hornets.

I think that in Season 1, TTA (Hoody) and Masky teamed up to eliminate Alex (for obvious reasons). They also tried to scare Jay away from the events of Marble Hornets -- that would explain the creepy videos during this time.

At the end of Season 1, Hoody and Masky realized that they can't find Alex on their own. By monitoring Jay's channel, they find that Alex contacted Jay. During the seven months, Masky and Hoody use Jay to find Alex. In Entry 35, Masky tries to attack Alex, but fails. In Entry 45, Hoody helps Masky, but they fail again -- this time due to the interference of the Operator. During the time in which Masky is hunting Alex, Hoody works to warn Jay of the danger Alex poses.

Now, skipping to Season 2, we see that Jay doesn't remember anything. Hoody still works with Masky to warn Jay, and to hopefully ensure that Jay doesn't search for Alex again. During the seven months, even though they worked together, Hoody did not know everything that Masky did. This culminates in Entry 52, in which Hoody learns of Masky's attack on Alex. The gunshot goes off at an ambiguous time: either it was fired in the fight, or (very likely) Masky seized the weapon and exacted revenge for the breaking of his leg. This is the point where Hoody stops working with Masky.

In Season 3, we see Hoody being the only TTA member. Masky has disappeared, leaving only Tim. TTA's video, "Reminder," could either be directed to Jay or Masky. "Decay" could be TTA telling Masky that he will never be forgiven for murdering Alex. "Session" could be referring to Tim as a liar, and so could "Reference." We see that Hoody gives Jay Tim's medical records, probably to prove that Tim is a liar (we'll see in the next entry). The presence of Masky in "Reference" could very well be unused footage from Season 2, or the missing seven months.


#2) There could be four members of ToTheArk (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32795)
In that case, what is important is identifying the members. I am of the opinion that the person who tags with "0" could be either Seth or Sarah, do to the "S" in the bottom of at least one of xer videos.

The person who tags with "/" would have to be someone who had access to Brian's house. I'm of the opinion that it was either Masky or Brian, due to Hoody's lack of presence.

The person who tags with an "x" is probably Hoody due to the "Intermission" video and his presence in Rosswood park.

[DHawk314]

[pravado]

You put entirely too much faith into thinking that brian, sarah, and tim know how to edit video and add effects. The average person doesn't know how to make crazy effects that TTA does, and brian sarah and tim were just actors on some movie, not tech experts (otherwise they would have been helping seth with editing, no?)

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