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Flame Reaper 734
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There was some interesting information in the docs, but a key point from this entry that I noticed was that Jay seems very tired/depressed/sick in his little spiel. I'm going to tweet Jay and ask if he feels alright.
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Flame Reaper 734 wrote:
There was some interesting information in the docs, but a key point from this entry that I noticed was that Jay seems very tired/depressed/sick in his little spiel. I'm going to tweet Jay and ask if he feels alright.


I noticed that too. He seemed to be a lot more sarcastic and snarky than usual. He just sounded really fed up when he was talking about the page with the operator symbol and the photo. I really liked the photo btw, it seems we got confirmation that the folder was put down in the tunnels AFTER Entry 58 when they first saw Hoodie. Which means there's a slight chance it was someone else who put it down there. (Though I doubt it.)

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DHawk314 wrote:
Zebez wrote:
Here's a good video for a procedure that is supposed to stop seizures and how it affects the brain.


YouTube: Link


Can someone sum up what they say in this video?


I don't know if anyone has already answered you on this, but it really just messes up hand-eye coordination and and speech. It does NOT cause a split personality. It simply makes certain activities more difficult. Split personalities would probably fall more under the "possible disorder" category that was listed. (I'm a neurobiology student)

Also, not all seizures are caused by disturbances in the corpus callosum; a seizure is more or less abnormal electrochemical activity in the brain. Only certain types of chronic and frequent seizure disorders require the split brain procedure, like where the patient is having gran-mal/tonic-clonic seizures every day for extended periods of time. It's not like getting tonsils out, it's a very rarely performed procedure.

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Did the slender doll give Jay slender sickness? Or maybe he just got it from being in the tunnel, but that would make the doll seem pointless...

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Okay, my theory about the operator has been that he stalks one person at a time and the only way to get rid of him is to get him to follow someone else. I think this entry plays right into that- it's obvious that Tim has been stalked as a child, the times in his life when he's not being stalked are when Alex, Jay or Jessica are being stalked, but recently he's been getting worse, so it looks like he was the main victim for a while. (In season 1 we see the transition from Alex to Tim and maybe back again a few times, with Jay getting a little caught in the crossfire. If Jessica is no longer being stalked then that's either very good for her, or very, very bad.)

In Entry #60 hoody decided to be a bit less than gentlemanly by making sure that Jay got the folder covered in operator symbols, and now Jay is coughing and paranoid again. (totheark tried this before, with the red tower. That thing was covered in operator symbols.) So the operator is stalking Jay once more. Great. (To be extra sure, hoody put the forms in a place where Tim would not go and probably couldn't escape from, given his dodgy leg.)

My other main observation is the various cuts in the video suggest that the operator has been stalking Jay for the past two weeks. The coughing and his paranoia are hints that this has happened, but I would not be surprised if there was distortion on the videos that Jay cut out. (First such cut at 1:20, about 20 second after the operator symbol leaves the frame. Blink and you miss it. Then again at 4:30 after the second symbol. Another cut at 5:55 after showing the first symbol again.) The second two are probably just be cuts to save time, but he splices the audio across the first one.

Is there mild distortion in the top few rows of pixels in this video, or is that just my screen being weird?

Tim had glasses. Alex has glasses. Does the operator mess with people's vision?

Other thoughts: What happened with the renal failure? It suddenly seems irrelevant, even though it's a very serious complaint.

FolderFace is sad panda.

Redacted? Jay reads SCP! I think most people (not interested in this genre) would use blacked-out or something.

Probably irrelevant thoughts: It would be nice to take a look at the handwriting and compare it what we've seen so far for similarities (and even compare the handwriting between forms) for consistency, but that would probably be pointless. It would also be nice to compare the shape of Jay's hands to the hands visible in Entry #29, but again, probably pointless given that knowing the actor tells you nothing about the character in this series.

LOL at "I wasn't really super-aware of my surroundings after being PUNCHED in the FACE."

Fridge horror: Tim was a kid who had trouble sleeping because of you-know-who, and he wore glasses (mostly likely short sightedness, given the age.) It must have been terrifying to wake up at night and see something in your room, but not know what. Even worse to think that if there is something there you'd most likely miss it.

Last but not least: ironic that pravado makes a point about people checking youtube constantly, and yet gets the first reply in. Who exactly is checking what too frequently here? Wink

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Nothing really surprising in this video. Things I did notice kind of off-hand though:

1. No mention of Tim's Father whatsoever.

2. Falling and Seizures only seen in #18 really.

3. Jan 10, XXXX is probably important, but the entire page being redacted is a huge red flag for me.

4. Ran away to Rosswood Park at some point in his life. Not sure for how long though.


One of the things I find interesting is the fact that the term "Redacted" is used frequently.

Redaction is typically used for hiding sensitive information in documents, usually names, dates, or important information. So the fact that Jay has these records indicates there is a larger portion of information he doesn't know yet.

To sum it up, the information he got is basically useless junk that was ok to share. The juicy stuff got blanked out. So someone is still hiding information from Jay, but is teasing him by saying, "Here you go, you can know this much for now."

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Personally, I think the entirety of the last two entries has been a big Red Herring in terms of plot, direction, etc. I can understand why Pravado is ticked off right now. We've just been given a big, fat "fuck you", in terms of information.

And for those of you wanting to argue over the use of the term "redacted", I'd like to point out that the term is also strongly associated with documents with sensitive information, especially those documents used by the military or Information agencies. All documents must be gone over and have their sensitive info redacted before being released to the public.


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Blank_Zero wrote:

OOG
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Personally, I think the entirety of the last two entries has been a big Red Herring in terms of plot, direction, etc. I can understand why Pravado is ticked off right now. We've just been given a big, fat "fuck you", in terms of information.

And for those of you wanting to argue over the use of the term "redacted", I'd like to point out that the term is also strongly associated with documents with sensitive information, especially those documents used by the military or Information agencies. All documents must be gone over and have their sensitive info redacted before being released to the public.


A lot of the stuff that's REDACTED is red herring material as well. Stuff like bowel movements and diarrhea and whatnot.

This is the original document for the Pediatric Admission Assessment: http://www.hospital-forms.com/704.pdf

At least now we have some definite red herrings.

Also, smoker's cough is a red herring. Tim's been coughing since he was in the second grade, according to this Entry.

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Zebez wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
Zebez wrote:
Here's a good video for a procedure that is supposed to stop seizures and how it affects the brain.


YouTube: Link


Can someone sum up what they say in this video?


In this video, it shows what happens when you sever the brain down the middle. So they show the disconnect between language and visual representation. A person like this man might see a word on the left side which goes to the right side of his brain. He cannot say what the object is but he can draw it. This could represent how Masky relies only on grunts and why he would make these videos that seem not to be very clear but at the same time he's able to portray emotion, even if he can't just come out and say it.

Also in this video it shows how a person recognizes faces with the right side of their brain. and guess who doesn't have a face? Masky might be terrified of the operator for this reason because I feel like the masky personality is more right brained and the operator would terrify him more. Because he can't make sense of what he sees.

The person is also able two draw two different shapes at once.


I'm loving this, seeing it on Tim's character.
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Starkley wrote:
Blank_Zero wrote:

OOG
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Personally, I think the entirety of the last two entries has been a big Red Herring in terms of plot, direction, etc. I can understand why Pravado is ticked off right now. We've just been given a big, fat "fuck you", in terms of information.

And for those of you wanting to argue over the use of the term "redacted", I'd like to point out that the term is also strongly associated with documents with sensitive information, especially those documents used by the military or Information agencies. All documents must be gone over and have their sensitive info redacted before being released to the public.


A lot of the stuff that's REDACTED is red herring material as well. Stuff like bowel movements and diarrhea and whatnot.

This is the original document for the Pediatric Admission Assessment: http://www.hospital-forms.com/704.pdf

At least now we have some definite red herrings.

Also, smoker's cough is a red herring. Tim's been coughing since he was in the second grade, according to this Entry.


Correct. In this video though, Jay uses the term exclusively, meaning either it is important to note or that he just learned a big word and is trying to use it as much as possible Razz

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Blank_Zero wrote:
Starkley wrote:
Blank_Zero wrote:

OOG
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Personally, I think the entirety of the last two entries has been a big Red Herring in terms of plot, direction, etc. I can understand why Pravado is ticked off right now. We've just been given a big, fat "fuck you", in terms of information.

And for those of you wanting to argue over the use of the term "redacted", I'd like to point out that the term is also strongly associated with documents with sensitive information, especially those documents used by the military or Information agencies. All documents must be gone over and have their sensitive info redacted before being released to the public.


A lot of the stuff that's REDACTED is red herring material as well. Stuff like bowel movements and diarrhea and whatnot.

This is the original document for the Pediatric Admission Assessment: http://www.hospital-forms.com/704.pdf

At least now we have some definite red herrings.

Also, smoker's cough is a red herring. Tim's been coughing since he was in the second grade, according to this Entry.


Correct. In this video though, Jay uses the term exclusively, meaning either it is important to note or that he just learned a big word and is trying to use it as much as possible Razz


Or he's had experience with redacted documents before...

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Jay's weird reaction to "Aggravated by talking" is questionable. It's written under the things that affect the headache; isn't this just an explanation/consistency towards Tim's irritability in some of the earlier Entries?

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Well, since I did not see "Dialysis" in any of the documents, I guess we can forget about any kidney failures that were speculated, right?

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Starkley wrote:
Also, this video nulls out the "Slendy doll summons Slendy" theory, considering he's had it for two weeks and has recorded a video with no TO or distortion while holding it.


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No real reason why this had to take two weeks to make, either. Razz Jay even sounds bored while he's recording it hahahaha


I was thinking about that, and...well, we're not sure what Jay's been up to the past 2 weeks: could just be OOG inconvenience due to busy scheduling, or it could be missing time. Maybe someone should ask if Jay's still filming himself on his twitter?

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Someone should also screenshot the part of the video showing the "2 (REDACTED) ago" when it talks about Tim having ran away and having been discovered in Rosswood Park. The light makes it seem as though the imprint of whatever was written before Hoody went Mad Sharpie Man on it is still there. If we mess with the contrast/lighting, maybe we can read it?

Also, here's the information from the Pediatric Admission Assessment:


Pediatric Admission Assessment: Timothy W.


Page 1:

Date: 12/20/95
Time: 11:45 A.M.

Person to Notify in Case of Emergency:
Name: Janet W
Phone: Redacted
Relationship: Mother

Admitted From: Home
Admitted via: Ambulatory

Orientation to Nursing Unit: [All listed are checked off.]
Nurse Call System
Crib/Side Rails
Bathroom
Phone
No Smoking
No leaving children unattended
Bed Controls
ID Bracelet
TV Controls
Visiting Hours
Patient Information

Cribs must have rails up at all times when occupied (Not checked)
No toys or objects to create sparks or friction if in croup tent (not checkted)
Bed/crib must be kept in lowest position at all times (Not checked)

Immunizations Current? Yes

Chief Complaint: Headaches, insomnia, (REDACTED)

Disposition of Valuables (REDACTED)
Caldwell County Hospital (REDACTED, but probably for consistency's sake since the location isn't right.) will not assume responsibility for lost or damaged valuables, clothing, or personal itesm kept in the patient's possession. Valuables should be taken home or secured by the hospital.
Patient/Family Signature:
Witness Signature:
Date: 12/20/95
Time: 12:01 P.M.

Valuables picked up by: Janet W.
Witness: (Cant read)
Date/Time: 12/20/95 12:01 P.M.

Health Profile: Other, Janet W.

Have you been hospitalized at our facility in the past 7 days? No
If yes, has there been any changes in your status since last admission? No (Someone can't read directions...)


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Medical History and Previous Surgery:
Ever had a blood transfusion? No

SOcial/Environmental Assessment: (All shown are checked)
1. Patient lives: With family
2. Habits: Tobacco
Member of household uses tobacco
3. Education: Last grade in school attended: 2
Can read? Yes
Can write? Yes
Is Home Health involved in your Care? No
5. Assistance required for Care
Toileting: Goes to bathroom alone, Independent
Medication: Taken best as: Liquid
Who else besides parents might be staying with child? N/A
Emotional Support: Has your family had any recent changes in your life? (moved, divorce, birth, death, new job, etc.): No
6. Abuse/Neglect/Exploitation Screen
Do you feel safe in your home? No (Originally Yes)
Are you afraid of anyone? No (Originally Yes)
Have you ever been physically, sexually, or emotionally abused? No
Within the past year, have you ever been hit, slapped, kicked, or otherwise physically hurt? No (REDACTED)
Have you ever been touched in a manner tham kaes you feel uncomfortable? No (REDACTED)
Evidence of neglect by self? No
Evidence of neglect by caretakers? No
Evidence of abuse by self or others? No

Skin:
Color Impairment: None
Temperature: Warm
Turgor: Good


Page 3:

Oral/Denatal/Nasal
Teeth Condition: Good
Gums: Pink,
Nose: No problems

Hygiene
Bathing: Partial Assist
Condition on arrival: Good
Oral Hygience: Self
Hair Condition: Good

Neuro Status
Conscious
Oriented To: Person, Place (Not Time)
Weakness/Paralysis: None
Range of Motion: Independent

Pupils/Eyes
Pupils: Equal
Eyes:

Vision (All listed here checked)
Adequate
Glasses/Contacts: With Patient

Speech/Sqallowing
Speech: Clear
Swallows: Without Difficulty

Hearing/Ears
Hearing: Adequate

Mobility
ndependent

Respiratory/Cardiovascular
Respiratory Problems:
Cough (Surprise Surprise)
Aids to Respiration: None
Cardiovascular Problems: None


Page 4:

Frequency of BM (REDACTED): Daily
(REDACTED STUFF ABOUT BOWEL MOVEMENTS :O)
Abdomen: Soft

Urinary Status:
Problems: None

GU (REDACTED)

Comfort/Rest/Sleep
Sleep
Unable to fall asleep easily
Avg # Hrs Slept Each Night: 4 #Pillows used: 2
Sleeps with Night Light On (D'aww)
Comfort/Pain
Is the patient currently having pain or admitted a pain related diagnosis? Yes
RATING ON PAIN SCALE: 6
Location: Head
Duration: 2-4 Hrs
Chronic, dull
Relieved by Rest
Aggravated by Talking
Do you have any personal, cultural, spiritual, and/or ethnic beliefs that may affect the way your pain is treated? No


Page 5:

Psychological Status
Body Image/Self Concept Problems: Signs/Symptoms of Depression
Spiritual Needs: No Requests Minister, etc. be notified: No
Observation of Patient Behavior/Interaction: Cooperative, Restless

Developmental/Other Needs Assessment
School Age Child, 6-12 Years
Social
Engages in group activities with same sex peers (UNCHECKED)
Cognitive
Wide Range of Vocabulary
Learns to read
Learning math skills
Begins collections (Hobbies) (UNCHECKED)
Physical
Exhibits physical endurance (plays sports, games) increased time motor ability (writing, painting drawing) (UNCHECKED)

Discharge Needs
Transportation

Plan of Care Reviewed With:
Family

Other Notes: Ran away from home 2 ___(REDACTED)___ ago. Found at Rosswood park.


Page 6:

Is this child's condition affected by the family? No

Is the family affected by this child's hospitalization? No

Fall Risk Assessment
Confused, disoriented, hallucinating, combative - 20
Hx of syncope, seizures (underlined), postural hypotension - 20
Total: 40 (High Risk)

OOG there is another page, but Jay states that it isn't there.

Source: http://www.hospital-forms.com/704.pdf

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If the operation was brain surgery, it was unlikely to have happened in 2010. Tim had a full head of hair then, and brain surgery involves shaving the head.

It looks like we were wrong about the dialysis. Tim's pills are almost certainly anti-seizure meds.

But what gets me in the gut is Tim's depression and anhedonia. It occurs to me that we've never heard Tim W. laugh, or seen him give a genuinely happy smile. Poor kid's been through the wringer.

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