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[VIDEO] Entry #60.5
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pravado
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Nex wrote:
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Don't care how people judge me, this was nothing but boring filler. Everything listed in there was fairly obvious about Tim already, they don't have to spoon feed us things like this. This whole season with Tim has nailed the fact that Tim was unhealthy with the symptoms before MH into our heads constantly, we get it already, Tim was the reason he came into play.

And I really don't get the 2 week turnaround here. Most of those pages said the same thing on them and I feel like they just purposely released it late so they could either have more time to shoot the next entry, or just wanted to spread the season out more (both cases are fine to me, but if it was just laziness then comeon)

No criticism this time, just frustration. This whole subplot with tim has dragged on far too long, and the story is completely losing my interest. At some point, even something I love dearly can turn into something I'm finding myself dissapointed with often, and I think I've finally reached that point with Marble Hornets. I'm not sure if they have big plans for the rest of the season, but so far this season has been the worst of the 3 by a longshot.

So yeah. I'll still watch every entry, but I think they need to sit down and revise the plot if it's going to drag on this long. More epic moments like entry 43. Treat this like a once-in-a-lifetime chance to make an awesome movie, less as some average youtube series


Dragged on too long? You do realize that it's only been 8 (.5) entries right?
And we did learn things in this video, so it wasn't a complete waste of time.


This late in the game they know what they're doing, even if we're still early on in the season it shouldn't be dragging on like this. And we learned nothing that we didn't know before other than that tim was found at rosswood one day as a kid (which doesn't really reveal anything new either)

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pravado
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
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I actually kind of like the slow pacing this season has, and i think it's the only realistic choice they have, really. For all of season 2, Jay was just travelling around watching the tapes and nothing really happened to him in real time. If we started getting dramatic reveals every other entry in season 3, it would feel really unrealistic and a little too convenient. I mean, everything just grinds to a halt while Jay watches the tapes and then when he's all caught up and ready to go everything just starts up again? No, that would just feel really unrealistic to me. Jay needs to kick around the hornets' nest a little before shit starts to go down.


They can do those things with it still being realistic. All of season 2 seemed realistic to me and it was over the top for most of the entries.

And you can't compare them to seasons 1 and 2. Just because those seasons started slow doesn't mean that it's a "thing" where the first 10 or so entries have to be boring to lead up to the good stuff - that's a cheap defense.

also lmao @ the guy who said "did you guys notice jay coughing?"

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LegitimatelyTaylor
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My main concern is that it doesn't feel like we're close to the finale. This feels like a mid-game arc, and it's centered solely on a single character. It encompasses none of the long-standing obstacles that Jay has faced throughout the series (the Operator, Alex Kralie's madness, Jessica's disappearance, TOTHEARK). Sure, Masky is just as important, but if we're this close to the end, we should be seeing a lot more answers.

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MistrPibb
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pravado wrote:
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Don't care how people judge me, this was nothing but boring filler. Everything listed in there was fairly obvious about Tim already, they don't have to spoon feed
us things like this. This whole season with Tim has nailed the fact that Tim was unhealthy with the symptoms before MH into our heads constantly, we get it
already, Tim was the reason he came into play.


I have to agree with pravado.

There are too many entries where either nothing exciting happens, or no new information is presented.
I feel like it's building up to something amazing- which is mostly why I still follow the series.
Granted, Entry #60 just came out, which I thought was one of the best entries, but I still think they could have "pruned" a lot of the story and combined entries.

inb4 "this belongs in the criticisms/rage thread"

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pravado
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My main gripe is that Jay is left clueless as to where to look next most of the time, and totheark gives him horrible clues that tease him more than help him. I guess that might be the point of the character, but if he's going to help jay then have him help jay, if he's going to mock jay than have him mock jay. The mixture of the two is incredibly weird and it comes off like totheark doesn't even know what he wants out of all this with his double sidedness.

But jay having no leads time and time again is kind of bad storytelling. It's better than finding an object that will tell him where to go i guess, because that's really formulamatic by now. But like when Jay was going to the maintnence tunnel by himself, that was a good buildup because jay knew what he had to do to progress. At this point all we're going to do is wait for the operator, to theark, masky, or hoody to find jay and scare him out of his newest place of living and maybe he'll get a phonecall from tim or alex to continue things. While those scenarios make sense, we've seen them time nad time again and there are surely better ways to get jay moving. There's infinite creative control, anything is possible, don't settle for low-level thrills when you can do big ones

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SHODAN
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LegitimatelyTaylor wrote:
My main concern is that it doesn't feel like we're close to the finale. This feels like a mid-game arc, and it's centered solely on a single character. It encompasses none of the long-standing obstacles that Jay has faced throughout the series (the Operator, Alex Kralie's madness, Jessica's disappearance, TOTHEARK). Sure, Masky is just as important, but if we're this close to the end, we should be seeing a lot more answers.


Mine too. My hope is that since the tapes are done, Tim's done, that TTA decides to tell us something totally mindblowing. I'd be happier with that than a Tim return actually.

The doll seems to be a bit of a nothing clue as well, I'm hoping that it maybe ties whomever was walking around up top to when Jay found the doll at the house via the dates on the paperwork as has been suggested. Otherwise it seems like throwaway set piece, and it was kind of dumb for Jay to pull a Heather from Blair Witch and take an effigy of his nemesis.

One other thing that just came to my mind is that maybe the doll is what allowed Jay to escape unharmed and allowed him to get to his car, and maybe that'll come up in a future Entry. A perfect example of 'new' information.

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pravado
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Nah. How would you explain Jay getting away in entry 40 and entry 46 without a doll? Theory is too loose.

It's more likely that now that Jay knows about tim's seizures and past history, the house entries will make more sense to him and the doll is a callback to that.

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twistedpuppet
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Starkley wrote:
On the contrary, invading someone's personal medical info, especially things like mental disorders, depression, and thoughts of suicide, without their permission, could REALLY hurt/piss someone off. But I feel like Tim might have decided to just pretend none of this is happening/might have stopped keeping up with the channel after that huge blowout he had in #59.

Still, very careless on Jay's part...he could have tweeted pictures of what he found on the documents or something if he really wanted to, especially considering how much was redacted in a few, and how much specificity he applied to particular tidbits rather than going through everything. Certainly don't feel like it was all important.

It's not really that amusing to watch Jay get punched in the face at this point though. Sad Alex, sure...



Yeah, but the twitter is only a bonus and not part of the main series. Due to their insistence that everything you introduce in the main series be explained in the main series, he had to show the documents. This is not like other ARGs such as Everyman Hybrid or Tribe Twelve. You can literally watch just the main series, and get all the information you need. You don't need the twitter, you don't need the TotheArk videos. Everything is in the main series. I like that and hope it stays like that.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Everything is in the main series. I like that and hope it stays like that.


Agreed. I don't have time to run around to five different sites to get all the information. Unfortunately.



Now, I haven't come up with a crazy theory in a while, which is quite sad, so I have a crazy theory that is probably completely bogus. But enjoy it anyways.

What if all the words redacted from the medical papers are actually important? In that they form some sort of code? Perhaps looking at the blank forms would actually help.

This probably isn't the case in the least, and for the record, I blame it all on reading too much Lemony Snicket lately. Razz

On that note, for now I'm going to assume a new TTA vid is what will gave Jay his next (extremely vague and cryptic) clue.

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pravado
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Ithilwen22 wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Everything is in the main series. I like that and hope it stays like that.


Agreed. I don't have time to run around to five different sites to get all the information. Unfortunately.



Now, I haven't come up with a crazy theory in a while, which is quite sad, so I have a crazy theory that is probably completely bogus. But enjoy it anyways.

What if all the words redacted from the medical papers are actually important? In that they form some sort of code? Perhaps looking at the blank forms would actually help.

This probably isn't the case in the least, and for the record, I blame it all on reading too much Lemony Snicket lately. Razz

On that note, for now I'm going to assume a new TTA vid is what will gave Jay his next (extremely vague and cryptic) clue.


It's two sites, and you spent more time making that post than it takes to type in www.twitter.com/marblehornets (protip: nobody is that strapped for time)

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It's two sites, and you spent more time making that post than it takes to type in www.twitter.com/marblehornets (protip: nobody is that strapped for time)


No, but new people don't know about the twitter or the TotheArk videos. I didn't find out about the TotheArk videos until I had already marathoned the first 45 entries. I didn't go back and watch them until I was done with the rest of the entries to that point, which was 51.

It's like asking someone watching a TV show, they show reference an important document, but never tell you about it. Then you find out weeks later that in order to find out what it was they were referencing, you had to go to a site barely related to the show just to see the document. That's stupid in that scenario, and stupid in regards to MH.

That shit might work for other ARGs, but as we've pointed out before, MH isn't really an ARG. Only the supplemental stuff like TotheArk or twitter can be considered ARG-esque, and that's stretching it since we don't have any influence on the story at all.

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Ithilwen22
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pravado wrote:
Ithilwen22 wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Everything is in the main series. I like that and hope it stays like that.


Agreed. I don't have time to run around to five different sites to get all the information. Unfortunately.



Now, I haven't come up with a crazy theory in a while, which is quite sad, so I have a crazy theory that is probably completely bogus. But enjoy it anyways.

What if all the words redacted from the medical papers are actually important? In that they form some sort of code? Perhaps looking at the blank forms would actually help.

This probably isn't the case in the least, and for the record, I blame it all on reading too much Lemony Snicket lately. Razz

On that note, for now I'm going to assume a new TTA vid is what will gave Jay his next (extremely vague and cryptic) clue.


It's two sites, and you spent more time making that post than it takes to type in www.twitter.com/marblehornets (protip: nobody is that strapped for time)


Oh fine, my time isn't that filled up. But I like keeping things simple. Otherwise it would be more time than I want to spend on it. (Main reason why I haven't tried to keep up with EMH.)

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twistedpuppet wrote:
pravado wrote:


It's two sites, and you spent more time making that post than it takes to type in www.twitter.com/marblehornets (protip: nobody is that strapped for time)


No, but new people don't know about the twitter or the TotheArk videos. I didn't find out about the TotheArk videos until I had already marathoned the first 45 entries. I didn't go back and watch them until I was done with the rest of the entries to that point, which was 51.

It's like asking someone watching a TV show, they show reference an important document, but never tell you about it. Then you find out weeks later that in order to find out what it was they were referencing, you had to go to a site barely related to the show just to see the document. That's stupid in that scenario, and stupid in regards to MH.

That shit might work for other ARGs, but as we've pointed out before, MH isn't really an ARG. Only the supplemental stuff like TotheArk or twitter can be considered ARG-esque, and that's stretching it since we don't have any influence on the story at all.



jay mentions totheark in one of the earlier entries, any rational person would go do a google search for it and see what it is. new people can deal with it, they're not the ones that they should be catering to, the ppl keeping up with it for 3 years are

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Rodion Romanovich
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What I found interesting about this entry was not what it told us about Tim or TTA, which wasn't much, but that it gave us a few more hints that Jay's predicament might lack its usual cheer. His investigation, such as it is, has of course always led to health problems, but the recent mention of paranoia, and the coughing in this video, might indicate that things are getting worse again.

He's also complained about being lonely a couple of times after the face punching incident. Again, being lonely is in itself nothing new, but I don't think he's ever mentioned it before, so it seems that losing Tim as a potential companion, or even friend, might have hit him harder than Tim's fist. Which isn't that surprising, because in one of the earliest episodes of this season, Tim and Jay actually seemed to get along really well, more or less the first time since the filming of Marble Hornets that we've seen anyone actually enjoying spending time with Jay.

So we have a reluctant protagonist, who feels that he's not making any progress, whose health is deteriorating, and who feels lonely. I don't know if this is going to lead to anything, but if these comments are getting more frequent, it might be something to look out for.

Of course, this also makes it perfectly reasonable that it would take two weeks to make this video (this is not a comment on the usual dramado, which I've learned to simply ignore). Jay does seem to be the kind of person who would try to run away from problems by simply withdrawing; pulling down the shades and spend all day watching ponies.

I think I had a point with all this when I started writing, but it might have been lost along the way. Oh well. Jay is giving us hints that he's sicker and sadder than usual, so maybe we should send him a mixtape of Morrissey songs. Or something.

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Rodion Romanovich wrote:
...pulling down the shades and spend all day watching ponies...

PONIES!?!?
Oh heck no!!! Laughing

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