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[Lakhesis]

If the SP's death does indeed precipitate Durga's destruction, then I think this will be an event in Halo 2 and not in the ARG. - that is, if the female voice at the beginning of the new Halo 2 commercial is Durga, which I think is likely.

I'd thought there would be character cross-over between the ARG and Halo 2, but not on that scale.

[Sunyavadin]

Murdering traitors.
After all the effort we put in to help the princess, it comes down to a few who decide to help the villain of the piece coerce the innocent victim into working for her through what amounts to little more than bullying and peer pressure and to murder a defenceless little girl.

Well, I hope you get what's coming to you when the covenant show up.

[Max Damage]

Oh - and some people are misinterpreting what I said.

I'm not calling the people who made this decision stupid. However, I do have a certain dislike for a lot of the people involved who honestly have no idea about the story and have to endlessly ask inane questions 'So, who's Kamal again? What's a Spartan?' - to me.

I know a fair few of this people are doing the phone-answering. Confused people who will basically do anything that they hear. I find it frustrating that the story is being decided by people who can barely remember the characters names.

Those are the players that I'm annoyed with. The guy who clearly knew what he was doing and laughed as the Princess got nailed - well, he's just evil.

[HitsHerMark]

[daboking]

bottom line... we had no choice here. This was a major plot point that had to happen. Do I like it? Not one bit, but the emotions it evokes are what separates a good story from a great one. I will never forget the story! Remember that through the day, people had been warning SP of potential traps. She would not listen... because it WAS a plot point necessary for the advancement of the story. We will see what happens (and please do not kill off any more characters PM's )

I considered myself part of SPArmy, and though Chappy's laugh was unsettling, let us view it in light of the game.... he was on the brink of one the most major story developements, so he could have been laughing a "cool, this will change the game" laugh, or it may have been playing good ole roleplaying. Regardless, he does not need to be personalized as the enemy for it any more than weephun should have been, regardless of the differences in the circumstances. Thanks for staying in contact with buzzkill and doing what we all did earlier in the day. We will mourn the loss of this character in our own ways, but geesh....

[Lurking_Kouzou]

With emotions running high, I can see how this could be overlooked, I'm also sure that it has been said before:

Who could have known that the Axon Spikes this week would lead to the destruction of SP? I can think of only two people, and they weren't bloody going to tell us.

Melissa - as it was her idea
Dana - as she was the mechanism by which the "hot spots" were created.

So while chappy may have fielded the call, it could just as easily been myself, or you, or any other axon hunter. It could have been the random applebees waitress that answered one of the axons a few weeks ago.

so, no hostilities. Make with the friendly and play nice now.

This concludes your lecture from a disembodied floating head. (Creeepy)

[Arana]

[Nightmare Tony]

And as official SPArmy Chandler, a candle must be lit to the memory of our dear Princess. For now she sleeps once again, with the flight of angels.

To Melissa's crew: God help you, for the Princess was all that remained of the humanity of Melissa. You will crave the human comfort of a Bin Laden or Hitler compared to what you are about to do...

[HitsHerMark]

[CoffeeJedi]

HitsHerMark, you're right... Chappy's laugh could be construed as a nervous, sort of "oh man! what's going on! i can't believe it!" sort of reaction
and Chappy, if you're reading this, sorry about calling you worse than Thin Kinkle before... hehe

the truth is... ALL of us who enhottenated the axons yesterday were tricked... we had NO IDEA that it was Dana who was placing that text there in order to find the SP... we just thought it was a "crew exercise"... we were lied to by our Operator because she knew we were playing both sides of the fence and couldn't be trusted

and many of us DID warn the SP, her comment of "I think I can handle the Queen" illustrates the fact that the PM's planned for SP to go up against her and fail

I, like Arana and many others, am just holding onto that last little tiny glimmer of hope that SP is still alive in some form, some where... I also think that maybe there's more of Yasmine in Durga than we realize... i guess we'll find out on Sunday, I can think of several different scenarios that could let the SP survive, i just hope one of them comes true

[CoffeeJedi]

[Slothboy]

/unlurk


Dunno if hearing yet another opinion at this point amounts to a hill of beans, but you get to hear it anyway.

The thing we have to remember is that there is not going to be a happy ending at this point. The story as of November 9th is that the Covenant find Earth and begin to blow the hell out of it. That is an infelxible plot point. There is a very good chance that the events we are witnessing are RESPONSIBLE for that event taking place. It would be silly from a meta/marketing perspective for this story to NOT intersect with that event. Remember, even if this whole thing is done well (which it has been) and the ending is an outstanding bang that will make us have to change our underpants, the ultimate message is still, "PLAY HALO 2."

With that in mind, I love Fenwicked's idea and BeeNetter's use of Durandal to support it, that destroying this last shred of Melissa's humanity will contribute directly to her ultimate journey to rampancy. I think the destruction of the SP was also an inflexible plot point because there was no choice in the matter and no indication that "hunting the SP" was the game of the day. Melissa said to do something and we (the people at the phones anyway) did it. How pissed would we have gotten if the folks at the live call had refused to follow directions to enhottenate the axons?

"I can't explain why I didn't do it, it just felt like I was being misled."

How far would that fly in the forums? Not very.

The Sleeping Princess was Mellissa's Superego:

[Robynn]

Note: As I was writing this, some others expressed the same thing, but I'm posting it anyway.

I wanted to point out that the laughing guy probably wasn't laughing at the Princess's destruction. In fact, it may have been one of the people not actually on the phone at the time, just someone standing nearby and laughing at something else. The thought also crossed my mind that Melissa may have edited the clip to add the laughter, but she probably didn't have enough time before posting. (Added after: Actually, I think HHM hit the nail on the head. Nervous, uncomfortable laughter.)

Beyond that, people warned the Princess about a trap. She told them she could totally handle the Queen. People continued to warn her. How is that not trying to help the Princess? And we had no idea that this week's exercise was also an exercise in tracking the Princess (which I'm sure was planned on the PMs part, because if we knew, there would be enough people trying to help the Princess evade that Melissa may not have been able to catch her).

As the game ends, what did you really think was going to happen with Melissa out for blood and Durga focused on something else entirely? A happy ending? Maybe, maybe not. What has to happen before the happy ending, though? The scary/sad/upsetting climax. Think about that too.

In the end, we were *not* given a choice, nor were we given enough information to make a choice about the Princess's destruction. How dare anyone call the participants' morals into question over this? From the tone of the posts from them, no one participating in that final call (from either side of the country, as that last live call was simultaneously happening in Buena Park, CA and DC) was very happy about the outcome. No one.

[Nightmare Tony]

HitsHerMark: Not meant ot be tacky by my simple opinion. SP may have been the one sole restraint to Melissa in terms of humanity and treatment of crew members. With said restraint gone, Melissa will give new meaning ot shockingly excessive force.

CoffeJedi: someone else brought up the invoke ot Godwin's Law much earlier int he thread. Note the usage I had for it, not as an insult to anyone or their intelligence, but to the fact that they would long for THAT type of humaanity, horrible as it is compared to what is to come forth in these final days of Meliisa Unchained....

And no, the thread is not over or old at alll ....


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[Smoke]

Has anyone noticed the new text on contactme.html?

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There's no link to anything, just that.

I have a feeling I will be trouted....