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Wrong Direction and a New Path
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Nyght_Shyft
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Wrong Direction and a New Path

All right, just some thoughts..

We've been talking about this stuff and trying to figure out the meaning of the cards for sometime now. We've uncovered what many people (myself included) might call "progress," but are we really any closer to the truth?

I think the problem is that we are refusing to tackle this thing by its own rules. Marc has told us, again and again, that 1). "all you need: you, the trip package" and 2). you need to find your own path.

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only your path will lead you to the portal.

you wouldn't be able to get there on my path, and i wouldn't be able to get there on yours.

paths are intimately related to the individual's nature, to the circumstances of personal existence.

remember, TELEPORT isn't something you do while taking a break from "real life".

perhaps think of the path as an essential aspect of yourself.

the path, in a sense, channels your experience. it takes the portal energy -- which is the same for everyone -- and "filters" it in a way which is appropriate for your personality, life circumstances, etc.

the whole journey is a process of developing understanding. to obtain the portal is obviously a moment of insight, although it is not the end of the journey.


So far, are approach has been both almost entirely logical and collective. But we know already that logic isn't the only part to figuring the trip out. We also need to utilize imagination and also intuition, the latter being the most important as it is the key to "unlocking" the portal. We have looked at this as a logic puzzle, one that we can solve as a group, but marc told us that we cannot. In order to progress through the stages and discover the portal, we must find our own path. We have to play this thing by its rules.

But it's more than that.. like I quoted from marc above.. the trip is "an essential aspect of ourselves." What this means, I don't know.. but if we're going to make any progress, we need to figure that out.

And how do we figure that out? The only way to do that is to ask yourself that question. I can't tell you anymore than you can tell me.

Those of you with the cards sit down and try to figure them out.. then, as marc would say, "go for a walk".. think about it. Apply it to something, to some aspect of your life. Again, I don't quite understand how, but that's something I won't be able to tell you. You have to do it on your own.

I open this thread up to discuss this aspect of TELEPORT.. post whatever insights you have, but only insofar as they apply to you. Perhaps by posting what you've found you might be able to help yourself out?

Remember, if you're going to solve this, YOU have to figure it out. No one can tell you how... if someone else were to, it would have no meaning for you because it would be their answer, as it applies to their life, not yours.

Does this help? Those are my thoughts.. i'm not sure where to go from here, but maybe someone else will be able to figure it out.

What are your thoughts?

Happy Hunting.
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Remember this.. according to the press release, TELEPORT is a "... guide to astral projection and other forms of non-physical travel." A guide.

Thus, it cannot show you the answer because no answer is contained with it.. it is a guide and can only show you the way.
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You are in the same track as me Cool

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Noi wrote:
You are in the same track as me Cool

That's because great minds think alike, Noi.. Cool

Hope you get your trip soon.
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Wa-what, have you tripped? Shocked

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Griffin wrote:
Wa-what, have you tripped? Shocked

Sorry griff, but no.. although I wish I have (or do i?).

I decided to try a different direction.. and just thought i'd share it with everyone.
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Ok this is Astral projection (i´m gonna use the word trip from now on, to trip, to have tripped)

All IMO:

I have tripped many times before in the past. It is very true, and it is very cool.

First of all, when i trip, it is not like a dream and it cannot be misinterpreted as a dream or any other "normal" thing. If you ask yourself "was that a trip"? then the answer is: no.

The feeling is almost to be somewhere IRL in the matter that you can see things clearly, you can think, and you can walk around and talk and stuff.



When i started exploring this many years from now i was actually trying to do something else. I was trying to talk to my "self"
(the self is what you can call the soul, this is the real you existing in another dimension with a tiny fragment via a bridge connected to you´re body.) What i was trying to do was to tell it that i was in complete control of my own body and mind and that i asked to get more acces to hidden memories and perhaps past life experienses.

To talk to the self is not bogus since i have succeded many times. One easy thing was to tell my self to wake up after each dream i had in the night (since you use to dream 4 of them) I was doing dremstudy and i could always just remember the last dream..barely. Anyway, you just talk to the inner you as it is a 3 year old child, tell it what you want as clearly as you can and you will get it. One cool thing you can try out is to wake up anytime you want without an alarm. In bed at night just tell you´re "self" something like:
tomorrow i´m gonna wake up at 08:02, i´m gonna be clear awake and i will be able to go up
Imagine everything extremely exagerated like:
tomorrow - think about the next day
i´m gonna wake up - think about waking up, opening the eyes and come to
08:02 - be sure what that means, see the numbers
And so on a coupple of times slowly. You have to convince the self to do it, make it see that it is no misstake but a clear and polite begging to do exactly as you say.

Most ppl can´t believe it is true that they have this gift Smile

Try it.

Anyway, i hang up a big sheet on the wall and marked a dot as big as an inch. I sat in a comfy chair so close that the sheet completely covered my vision.

It is important to do theese things when you can relax and focus, on the bus is not a good idea to start with. Be sure there are no phones ringing, no sound outside and that other ppl wont barge in.

If you have troubble concentrating due to sound, you can put on headphones and turn on pink noise, maybe it helps anyway. Not too loud.

I also used a method of breathing, i imagined that in my intakes, i sucked up energy from the dot, and at my exhales it washed out through my entire body. Any method of breathing similar is cool, maybe you like too say something in you´re mind insted, like hm-mm (in) hmm-mm (out) a mantra, i don´t like it but many does.

This is very important for me as i can easily focus.

The next technique is not to blink. I noticed how my concentration on the dot went back a bit at every blink, so i had my eyes closed a bit so i could starte at the dot and not blink.

I looked at the dot, breating in and out, for about an hour, then and this is important i relaxed totally and tried to clear my mind of anything just softing in the chair closing my eyes.

I have come to discover that it works like this, you "ask" for something, it can be a puzzle or a thought, then when you relax it comes to you. One time i tried to remember as far back as i could in my life, and every night i tried so hard to see the first memories i had, and pushed a bit, and some more, totally focused...then i relaxed, i did it numerous times and one day the memories just came like a flood.

The same thing happend with this project of getting more acces from my self. I focused using the techique and then relaxed, over and over for many days. And then one day as i closed my eyes - i was on a hill, a beautiful grass covered hill, i did not understand anything and poof i was back.

It took some times before i actully could hang out for a while; remember i did not understand what was happening, first i thought my mind was understimulated from watching nothing that it filled me with visions. Later i understood i was tripping.

When i were on the trip, i could feel my hands in the couch, and i could feel safeness right behind me, like i felt myself just behind, so i was not scared, i discovered that i could just "fall" back anytime and "wake up" in the couch safe and sound.

It is totally cool, i wear glasses IRL, but on tripps i do not need them, i can see extremely well, and when you think about it, its not that wierd, i was not using my body, but my self, and the self have to have unlimitet resolution. I could see waterdrops on the grass, when i watched the trees i did not just se a tree, i saw all the leaves perfect, it was something else for sure.


Im not gonna go more into my tripps because it would take forever, but some info is:

I use to wear the clothes i had during the day.
I came to random places. (it seemed, i have a theory to the surroundings)
I met persons and strange beings.
I could take stuff with me, like a sword and other belongings i just thought of it extremely hard before tripping, and at this time i did not need the watching a dot for an hour rutine, i could do it in the bed at night just like that.

I could take persons with me, and once i took my dog, that was cool.
Altho they did not remember any of it afterwards, but they use to be a bit upset with me even tho they didn´t know i had taken them.

The uneasy stuff:
When beloingings got lost on the trip, they disapeared strangely in this world aswell. Very strange.

If i got hit or wounded on the trip, i got it in the real world too. Once i broke my rib on the trip, and i had pain there when i came to. Once i got punched in the face so my nose broke, and i had noseblood on my pillow as i waked up.

Once i almost could not get back, but eventually i could.


Even tho this might seem scary it is not at all dangerous to trip. I have not been injured much at all, barely noticable.




Why i am telling you this is because i think maybe you should explore the cards in a peacefull environment, focus on it and not trying to solve it as a puzzle, not like 1+1=2, but more like 1+1=2 in this world, in other dimensions, it always has, and it always will.

Focus and then relax.
Focus, breathe, relax.


In the beginning of my expansion of the mind i found my own ways of thinking that helped me to brake down the barriers we all have. I started to read about magic and tried true dreaming and other stuff. It is a slow process but it works. The barriers have to be broken down bit by bit, in the beginning it may seem like nothing is happening, but believe you me, it does, when the start to break all sort of stuff happens.

The second thing as to why i am telling you this is that i have not been doing this for years, but some days ago in the morning i was half asleep and half awake, thinking about the teleport cards Not on purpose, but this is funny with the mind, you relax when you sleep and the brain is processing information by itself.
Anyway i almost TRIPPED!
I aborted and did not understand what the F was happening.

I do not have the cards in my posession, but i have looked at them many times on the monitor. My best explanation is that the way i started thinking when i knew it was about astral projection, triggered the pahs outside the normal thinking in my brain, going into the teritory of wider thinking and since i have done it before, maybe my uncontious thought something like, yeah you´re thinking about tripping, here ´ya go!

I don´t know, i am certain tho that i could have looked at my old notes and stuff and it would have happened, i just tell you this because for me its all about a certain way of thinking

Maybe it helps.



My first thoughts and meditations to free barriers was like:
I thought of myself floating in space with the earth beneath me, i liked the idea of everything bound togheter, like you carefully drop a needle horizontally on the surface of a glas of water, it is bearing the needle, like the little tings inside works hand in hand. And also the discovery of inside atoms there is not mater, but a wave. Everething is built out of nothing, all is nothing, nothing is all. Everything is bound togheter. I drawed glowing lines between everything in my mind, between stones and trees and bushes and birds ans people, and myself, like a symetrical star of glowing wires, all connected able to use THE ENERGY OF EVERYTHING like the needle on the water, is uses the entire surface. Sometimes i thought of myself as a molecyle or whatever it is in the water, hand in hand with ALL other molecules, floating around - energy as one.

Very strange to some i can guess, but it worked for me it FELT RIGHT and that is the most important thing, when it feels right, it is! You have to belive that there is more to this than what you can see in you´re normal day, you HAVE to cast yourself out in it, like a cliffdive out in the ocean of energy, no looking back or second thought or trying a bit, but really just letting yourself out in it....then, and only then can you start the journey.


I thought like this i described above, and i used other ways of thinking. I lay in my bed before i went to sleep "meditating" for maybe twenty minutes half an hour, breething in (sucking in energy(it might glow if you like, its so cool ,you decide and no one else), breathing out, pulsatingly filling you´re body with energy and back into all things, over and over again and thinking about what i described. Then i relaxed. If you do this every night, and saying the words: I believe in the cosmic force, i believe in it totally and fully, i cast myself into it with no restrains or something like that that you believe in more than what we see, other dimensions as one thing, barriers WILL brake, i can guarantee that.


Im a bit tired now and i will maybe update some stuff you can practice every night with better words if anyone is interested.


Oh yes, when you trip, you will hear a buzzing sound, that is the "gate" or whatever. Sink down in the buzz, don´t be afraid you´re not gonna die Wink abort if you dont like it, and try again some other time. This is also what happened when i said i almost tripped, i heared the buzz and fell, but i aborted.



I don´t know if any of this apply to teleport, or if it is the same thing Marc is talking about, but it worked for me in my trips.

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Weee that was a long post Shocked Laughing

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What are your thoughts on Griffin's trip, marc?
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Dudes!! I just realized something!

I can´t believe i didn´t think of it before, i have been so far away from theese things so i´m sluggish Embarassed



The base sequanse is a spiral

You can watch a spiral in 2d, but also in 3d, like a slinky.


I was thinking about what Marc said: "It might be easier than you realize" (not exact quote)
Ok easy, but even then its hard, more about this tomorrow it´s 4 am here *yawn*

Anyway, we have a spiral, what does it do? It escalates!

We also have a magnet! What is a magnet? What if you can focus the right energy into the magnet.


In all my research (metaphysics) and to all of my own knowledge, there is nothing more powerful than a spiral and a magnet used in the right way!
You can easily teleport with that equipment Very Happy

I suggest holding the magnet when sitting with the cards until further notice, and try to steer the right toughts and feelings into it (hehe)


I cannot explain more about this, it wouldn´t make sence anyway, but since it kinda klicked just now (i may be wrong tho) i felt like putting it here, maybe someone can use it somehow.

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Oh yeah, you can use 2 opposite spirals ontop of eachother aswell, maybe this is is what the patterns mean. If it is, is could be kinda powerful, i have never heared of more than 2 spirals at the same time...we have alot more Shocked all this for just 19 dolla!

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I would like to believe u Griffin. Thought I really doubt some stuff was missing when u came back.
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No, they were there when i came back, but they disapeared strangely within a week, not *poff* up in smoke, but like someone stole it ect.

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Ok, well I cant argue with that.

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Anyway, I've just remembered something. In my school we had a Buddhist-munk that came to visit us once. And someone asked about how he meditated. I dont remember everything but I'm pretty shure it would have been close to this.
He used to meditate by saying the same words over and over again and once they used the phrase he was custom to on the radio, (yes he had one) and he accidently tripped. Note the recemblance with accidently thinking of the cards and accidently hearing the mantra words. All of a sudden you're there.
Well, I dont know what to think of Griffin but scince I always have believed that buddhist CAN meditate and take these kind of journyes I have no reason to doubt Griffin anymore...
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hmm, i need these cards..

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