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[FossilizedSauce]

TTA has referred to Jay in a third person before. Decay is a great example. Jay will LEAD TTA to Alex, to death (does he want Jay to kill him or something?), and to the ark.

[Starkley]

I think people saw this one TTA vid and forgot about like all the other Totheark videos. For example, if Jay was Totheark, then who was phone who was recording in "Remember," "Return," "Exit," and other such videos? Jay has been a subject of the Totheark channel consistently throughout every season, and is almost always being addressed - if he isn't being addressed so many videos cease to make even a little sense. I can settle for the whole "Jay used to be a part of Totheark" theory, before the mind-wipe, because that does keep the logic of many of Totheark's videos, only shifting it from meaning "come back to this location" to "come back to the group bro."

[Serum]

[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

All right, long-time lurker, first time poster. I'm reeaally starting to think people are kinda over-thinking this ARG. I mean, Jay making the entire thing up and it all being an elaborate ruse? And people STILL thinking that Alex could be ToTheArk? Trust me, the answer's not gonna be quite that bizarre or difficult to see coming!

The theory that I currently believe is that, at one point, there were two users on ToTheArk. One was Masky/Tim and the other was Hoody. Masky/Tim was the maker of all of the aggressively terrifying and outright threatening videos towards Jay. Meanwhile, Hoody was the maker of all of the more calm and collected videos that seemed to be asking Jay to help them and were very definitively against Alex.

The reason for this? As of right now (which could VERY easily change, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did), we've seen footage of every member of the cast and crew of Marble Hornets (other than Sarah, but I believe there were OOG reasons for her not being included) being sacrificed to Slenderman by Alex. Except for one, Jay. And not only that, Alex, after becoming incredibly paranoid that his exploits would be made public because of Tim's escape, entrusted the tapes with the incriminating evidence to JAY. For Tim, this would be damning evidence that Alex and Jay were working together to sacrifice people to Slenderman.

Meanwhile, Hoody, who thinks more logically, would be more patient and willing to sit and wait to see where Jay's loyalties lie, and even try to possibly form an alliance with Jay. It is Tim's rash behavior in events such as his attack on Jay in Brian's house, which I believe was done without Hoody's full knowledge, that have placed Masky and Hoody as antagonists in Jay's mind, and made any chances of alliance between them impossible at the time. Ever since Tim's apparent hanging up of his mask (the reasons for this are a very different theory), Hoody has been left without Tim's infuriating mistrust and has been able to try to mend an alliance with Jay.

I have more explanations involving this theory, but I figure this post is monstrous enough. heh. In conclusion, I believe ToTheArk is Masky/Tim and Hoody/Someone Else/Or, the only already in the series character I can think of, Brian.

[Starkley]

[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

Whoops! I entirely forgot about that conversation in #23! heh. Well, there goes alot of the credibility in my "Tim's Not Quite As Unstable As He Seems" theory! (I still like to think he's not QUITE as chaotic as some people think, but that's just because of my own fan-dreams of seeing Jay and Masky team up against Alex and Slenderman. ) But, yes, him being mind-wiped of pretty much the entirety of the in-game timeline (and possibly farther into the past) is my current theory on his no longer being Masky and appearing somewhat more stable.

And, yeah, Tim and Brian being friends and Brian being the only reason Tim wanted to do the project make me think it's probably Brian as well.

[Serum]

I highly doubt TTA is Brian or Seth or one of the other characters we haven't seen since dozens of entries ago... that wouldn't make any sense.

[Starkley]

[Serum]

[Starkley]

That doesn't change the fact that that leaves no one for Hoody, and, by extension, no one for Totheark.

It's impossible for Hoody to be Alex because of #45. It's impossible for Tim and Jay to be Hoody because of #58. Hoody is currently the biggest connection to the Totheark channel.

So it kind of has to be Brian or Seth.

Your argument also assumes that for whatever reason, Brian and Seth just disappear quietly post-Operator-exposure while Alex, Tim, and Jay get off scot-free minus some memory leakage. (But you can explain Alex, I suppose.)

[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

The only hole I can possibly put in Starkley's reasoning is that somebody has to disappear from Slenderman's influence. There's nothing that says that Brian and Seth can't both have disappeared along with Amy and Jessica. Without disappearances, there's less immediate danger in the series.

But, to support Starkley's claim, it's extremely unlikely that BOTH of them have disappeared. So, it comes down to which one of the two escaped.

[Starkley]

Yeah, I'm thinking only one of them got off, and I'm thinking it's Brian rather than Seth if only because Brian has gotten more screentime, and Seth's predicament seemed a lot more...violent than Brian's. (Screaming, for example).

As well as the nature of the location and the fact that I don't think anyone could really have helped Seth.

Then again, we haven't seen TO do anything to anyone he chases down as far as lethality goes, 'cause that's happened a bunch of times. We know that if the person is incapacitated they may get taken somewhere by TO, from #49. So that kind of points more towards Seth being the survivor. But who knows?

The fact that it's so inconsistent concerning what TO does to people it catches up to makes it difficult to say.

[fezstudios]

Welp, I'm just gonna say that I think that totheark was originally comprised of Timasky & Hoody/Brian/Seth/whoeverthehellheis but is now run by Hoody. I doubt that Alex was ever part of the group.
Off topic: Nice avatar Starkley. I assume you are a fellow player of the "Ben Drowned" ARG?

[Starkley]

[SheWhoSlaysMonsters]

[KINDA OT] Yeah, the inconsistencies with what happens to someone when they're exposed to Slenderman is one of my few pet peeves with this series. I really wish Troseph would have made the effects more clear at some point. I mean, we're far enough now into the series that we should have SOME idea about it. It just makes it more difficult to guess what's happened to people and, by extension, who is ToTheArk.