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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2012
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wheredidtheycomefrom
Boot


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 		So, I've come to the conclusion that this is not the real Doctor, it is Habit pretending to be him. (It seems to be a popular opinion)

After viewing The Property a few more times and then going back and watching Twenty-Four Months we seem to see an early version of the "Sanctuary" in Twenty-Four Months.

Habit did mention he'd worked on it for a while and it makes sense.

I compared about 10:39 in "The Property" and about the entire foresty bit in "Twenty-Four Months" ( 3:38 - 3:42), they look quite similar to me. Plus, that entire montage is from Habit so it would make sense.

Anyways, thats all I have to say Razz

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wheredidtheycomefrom
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 		Also, the "IT IS I WHO inHABITS THIS SANCTUARY. " tweet, adds to my theory. But you guys have already talked about that Razz

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:59 am
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EAK1791
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Fangv2 wrote:
Random Tree:

The Lady of the Light pdf file makes me think that Corenthal, did something in Fairmont/His Time that made him jump forward into Our Time/EverymanHybrid time. Somehow he has figured out the dimensional planes on the same way that Slenderman does, meaning he can teleport/teleport others with him.

Unlike Slenderman he can't do it whenever he wants, it takes a lot of effort or help/tricking Slenderman into helping him. That why he shot Slenderman, not cause "I'm a badass-monster hunter, DIE!" but more cause "I know Slenderman will teleport us if we attack(Baseball Bat attack, Car attack scenes), so I can use that to sling-shot us out of the Candleverse." That is why he teleported away so quickly after dropping Vin off, he was like "I need to gtfo while the juices still are in me from Slenderman teleport."

Corenthal also somehow made a sanctuary in the Candleverse, but can only use it for a short time if he brings someone into it.

Oh, and the whole "Jeff the Killer" thing was more of "Well we need a frame here... hmm... oh! This will work." instead of a plot-point. Just saying.

[/Random and Hoping it will cause some discussion instead of "OMG, Corenthal = Slenderman and Corenthal was actually fake and Habit instead!"]


That was my thought when he shot him. It seemed to me that Corenthal/HABIT/who/whatever the hell he is knew that shooting Slenderman would cause him to teleport them.

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TallulahBelle
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 		I too find myself in the HABIT/Corenthal-corner, albeit mostly for OOG-reasons:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is exactly how I imagine a grown man would look like trying to pretend he was inHABITED Evan. I can see him and Evan working on HABIT-moves together pre-filming. "Just throw your arms out showing your palms and tilt your head a bit, like this, no - hands open, and a bit of a shrug, yeah there you go".


Actually, what if... Just thinking out loud here, but what if the reason dr Corenthal acts so much like HABIT is not that he's inHABITed or they were the same person all along, but that dr Corenthal turned into HABIT? If that is where HABIT came from? And the transformation is the event Maryann is refering to in the Lady of the Light-letter?
What if this is typical dr Corenthal-behavior, and it's Evan/HABIT who's acting like dr Corenthal rather than the other way around?


Couple of other thoughts:

Why's there no black vomit? Hasn't Vinnie vomited black goo every time he passed out from Slenderman-presence?

In the b/w-scene, is it the videocamera the other Vinnie points at our Vinnie? If so, does anyone recall a clip that could correlate with this one?

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What if this is typical dr Corenthal-behavior, and it's Evan/HABIT who's acting like dr Corenthal rather than the other way around?


If this is true... oh my...
HABIT is a mofo, so I could see him do this to further throw people off...

As for the video... I am sort of thinking about it too. I had the feeling that we might have seen this before, but... not sure...

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TallulahBelle
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Anonymousity wrote:
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What if this is typical dr Corenthal-behavior, and it's Evan/HABIT who's acting like dr Corenthal rather than the other way around?


If this is true... oh my...
HABIT is a mofo, so I could see him do this to further throw people off...


I meant it even more severe: what if there was no HABIT before dr Corental became HABIT? Like Pete Parker became Spiderman Smile
So when Evan seem to behave inHABITed, he's in fact the spitting image of his adoptive father :O

HABIT did at some point say that Corenthal was alive but dealing with some old habits, didn't he? And we have never actually seen HABIT. He's the only one in the series we've never seen.
Or at least we think we haven't...

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 		Well, HABIT has previously associated himself with shit as far back as the third reich, right? He's kind of like the, cough, 'protagonist' of sympathy for the devil ("pleased to meet you, won't you guess my name" etc.), but he doesn't date back THAT far. So I think either he brawls about shit he didn't do, or he's legitimately this "creature"/thing.

If Corenthal became him... hurm...

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Fangv2
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Ouroborus wrote:

That said, I do wonder a bit about what happened at Baldpate in 2005. Both Habit's and Corenthal's story end there for five years.


This quote got me thinking;

What if instead of the Dr. Corenthal we see in this video is the REAL one... but somehow in 2005 HABIT/Corenthal did something, something that cause the 2 to combine with Corenthal coming out on top but now having HABIT mannerisms.

My thinking is this, Dr. C teleports from His Time to Our Time(causing Mary to write the Lady of the Light letter), he confronts HABIT, HABIT/Dr. C does something unexpected something never done before in the Iteration cycles, that causes HABIT/Dr. C to combine and taking them both out of the game. Dr. C wins out gaining some type of power/mannerisms from HABIT.

This explains both HABIT and Dr. C disappearing for 5 years at 2005, and explains why everyone thinks he is dead.

[/Really Really Speculation Tree]

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Lithp
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 		HABIT always seemed to have 2 conflicting origin stories to me.

1. HABIT is simply the alter-ego of Evan.
2. HABIT is a pseudodemonic entity who is timeless & possess people.

What's weird is that there seems to be evidence for both of them.

1. We hear the name "HABIT" comes from Evan's real mother. No one mentions knowing HABIT before this, except for the blog that He took over. HABIT is implied to have killed Nick, & he gains seemingly nothing from fighting himself. HABIT becomes more active when Evan gets a computer, but Evan himself stays about the same.
2. Nick seemed to be possessed, which HABIT alluded to. There is corroborating evidence in the form of documents that Dr. Corenthal fought a mob, so either he was inHABITed or he was fighting HABIT.

The only thing I can think of that reconciles these, as in without one being a flat-out lie, is that Evan started HABIT, but HABIT himself somehow became separate due to time travel shenanigans.

But I am also confused about this Dr. Corenthal. He doesn't really act like the one we saw through time travel, nor does his tone match the weary one of the documents that he supposedly authored.

I thought I was just mistaken in my judgment of the character at first, but maybe he really isn't Dr. Corenthal. In which case, I would guess that he is really adult Evan. But he isn't shown in monochrome, so I'm not sure what that could mean.

TL;DR: WTF is going on?!

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THmanslayr
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Lithp wrote:
HABIT always seemed to have 2 conflicting origin stories to me.

1. HABIT is simply the alter-ego of Evan.
2. HABIT is a pseudodemonic entity who is timeless & possess people.

What's weird is that there seems to be evidence for both of them.

1. We hear the name "HABIT" comes from Evan's real mother. No one mentions knowing HABIT before this, except for the blog that He took over. HABIT is implied to have killed Nick, & he gains seemingly nothing from fighting himself. HABIT becomes more active when Evan gets a computer, but Evan himself stays about the same.
2. Nick seemed to be possessed, which HABIT alluded to. There is corroborating evidence in the form of documents that Dr. Corenthal fought a mob, so either he was inHABITed or he was fighting HABIT.

The only thing I can think of that reconciles these, as in without one being a flat-out lie, is that Evan started HABIT, but HABIT himself somehow became separate due to time travel shenanigans.

But I am also confused about this Dr. Corenthal. He doesn't really act like the one we saw through time travel, nor does his tone match the weary one of the documents that he supposedly authored.

I thought I was just mistaken in my judgment of the character at first, but maybe he really isn't Dr. Corenthal. In which case, I would guess that he is really adult Evan. But he isn't shown in monochrome, so I'm not sure what that could mean.

TL;DR: WTF is going on?!

Here are a couple possible explanations:
1. Fairmount was the first time in the Cycle that HABIT ever appeared, and since Evan was his vessel of choice, took Evan's nickname as his own. This seems unlikely, as the Candleverse gang at one point mention how "[Habit's shenanigans] get more complicated every time," and it wouldn't really make sense for them to say "every time" if he only played the cycle once before this.
2. The HABIT always has been and always will be (or at least has been for a really long time and will be for a while). It's pretty clear that he does in fact control other people's bodies, even many of them at the same time. He's alluded to being Hitler and all that jazz. We don't know why Evan's mom nicknamed him that, so it could have been any reason, including Habit!Evan telling her to do so (she may have just played along from that point on until he killed her (he did kill her, right? Did we ever find out how she died?)) Personally, I think this explanation makes a lot more sense. It also makes explaining Corenthal's strange behavior a lot easier. HABIT was in control of his body. The Evil Twin from the Future theory isn't really consistent with available data, imo.

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 		I want to know why Dr. C left magnum rounds in the storage facility. Did he want the boys to find them...?

Also, leaving this here:
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 		Bendy, nice find!

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bendy wrote:
I want to know why Dr. C left magnum rounds in the storage facility. Did he want the boys to find them...?

Also, leaving this here


Which video is that from?

also, if corenthal did want them to find the rounds, then those may be the same types of rounds he used on slenderman to get himself and Vinny teleported. This is assuming that there was anything special in the rounds that would trigger a teleportation if the bullet hit slenderman which would definitely help the boys in their troubles.

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7brokenboundaries wrote:
Which video is that from?


It's from one of the videos Steph posted on CANYOUSEETHEWORDS back when people were still calling her "Damsel."
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 		So I mostly lurk here to keep tabs on this series, but this whole Dr. C being inHABITED thing really got me thinking back to old hints. Not only did this immediately remind me of those old back and forth tweets, it also reminded me of a bit of dialogue no one here has brought up yet.

Back in the first "Candleverse" video, where the boys are sitting around talking, as Evan is chained up he recounts what it was like to be in a fight with Dr. C, presumably under the control of HABIT (it's implied the Candleverse Evan fully understands his relation to the HABIT entity.) He seems sorry about it, as if he is guilty because HABIT won out and killed/inhabited the doctor. Now, that one piece of dialogue is the only reference we have of a direct conflict between the two of them ever taking place. It could be that it happened as early as when the ghost tweets were sent, and we were witnessing that fight then.. Habit eventually winning out for control of the Sanctuary, and now he's using the guise to trick Vin.

EDIT: Nevermind... I completely forgot about Nick. Now I just feel silly. No idea why I immediately jumped to the Doctor. Must have just been what I had originally thought he was referring to.

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