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mrshomersimpson
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amandel wrote:
Strudel2010 wrote:
thebruce wrote:
http://www.byologyc.com/exe/

Since I am newish, I wasn't here for when the original exe was uploaded...but when looking at the source code, there is a cypher at the top of the page...is that something new, or has that already been solved?

So, mrshomersimpson & I were chatting and she said the cipher Strudel (PROPS!) found was indeed new. Got lucky with the solve:
cipher solve
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Vigenére Cipher with the keyword: exe. It reads: hey louis, annoying enough for you? -candi


the first i heard was the first that i knew of the cipher ! louis is the "leader" currently MIA of byoleaks and candi - ive got no idea.. not someone im aware of in the leaks setting or know of in the byologic setting! might do a little bit of probing as to who she is! im assuming the one that did the design for the page...

nice! thanks amandel! xx

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mrshomersimpson wrote:
amandel wrote:
So, mrshomersimpson & I were chatting and she said the cipher Strudel (PROPS!) found was indeed new. Got lucky with the solve:
cipher solve
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Vigenére Cipher with the keyword: exe. It reads: hey louis, annoying enough for you? -candi


the first i heard was the first that i knew of the cipher ! louis is the "leader" currently MIA of byoleaks and candi - ive got no idea.. not someone im aware of in the leaks setting or know of in the byologic setting! might do a little bit of probing as to who she is! im assuming the one that did the design for the page...

nice! thanks amandel! xx


I found the cipher back when the page was first posted, and mentioned it a few times here, but it never seem to get traction/notice. Also, I'm terribad with ciphers and apparently too dumb to try "exe" as a key Razz. Who is this candi?

I'll add the solution to the cipher in the dropbox files.

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thebruce
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And just a note - yes, Unfiction is 100% out of game, and we encourage any and all PMs to respect the OOG boundaries of UF. Anything posted here should be considered non-existent in the game world, and the players should also consider it that way. We value community, and hate pitting people against each other Smile When people fear sharing, for whatever reason, it can hurt the community and teamwork.
In short, don't worry about anything shared here being 'found' by a character, and please don't use anything from here in-game unless there's an in-game reason Wink

continue! =P
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mrshomersimpson
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thebruce wrote:
And just a note - yes, Unfiction is 100% out of game, and we encourage any and all PMs to respect the OOG boundaries of UF. Anything posted here should be considered non-existent in the game world, and the players should also consider it that way. We value community, and hate pitting people against each other Smile When people fear sharing, for whatever reason, it can hurt the community and teamwork.
In short, don't worry about anything shared here being 'found' by a character, and please don't use anything from here in-game unless there's an in-game reason Wink

continue! =P


PHEW!

thanks so much for clearing that up! i have access to the byoleaks posterious and have emails from henry that i would love to share... but because they both specifically said DONT SHARE WITH ANYONE i didnt.

However im glad this is considered out of game! it means i can share and see if someone can pick up something ive maybe missed!

thanks for the info.. really really appreciated x

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keep in mind, UF can't guarantee that PMs will respect the forum guidelines outside UF - some past ARGs and such have run into disagreements and controversy here in doing that... but for the most part, PMs understand and respect UF's many years of experience Wink
in short, really, do what you want and are comfortable doing, and hope it goes over the way you intend =)
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Where thebruce is correct that we are protected here in UF by agreement, DO NOT assume that this same agreement extends to other online sources like FaceBook or other online sites or fourms. Some games actually have their own fourms that are run by the PM's.

FB has been a long time source for PM's and players alike to collect and offer information, clues, and story plot lines. Everything there is fair game use.

If you see information on UF that is OOG and needs to stay OOG, it is hoped to be everyone's responsibility to not repost it on FB.

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Rich Reder
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in short, really, do what you want and are comfortable doing, and hope it goes over the way you intend =)


Thanks for the clarification you've given. Perhaps you'd be willing to add a bit more around some thoughts I have (and perhaps are shared by others):

As a player, personally, I don't always want to see behind the PM curtain too closely or frequently, because what I might see there could interfere with the suspension of belief necessary to fully enjoy an ARG. However, sometimes my curiosity does get the best of me, and by doing some research I discover some things that I choose NOT to share with anyone else, for fear of ruining the game experience for others. [One example might be, the real identities/names of the actors/characters and other things they've been involved with!]

Another thing I've noticed: Some players want to know EVERYTHING other players have discovered in game, and sometimes resent that not everything is shared. However, it seems to me that there can legitimately be a reward or payoff for more skillful or dedicated players that others are not necessarily entitled to share - in other words, enjoying the fruit of someone's hard labor. Yes, it is good to share in a team spirit, but all gamers (just like in real life) are not equal in skill or level of commitment or time invested.

So, one solution to the above would be merely to avoid/stay away from unforum. However, sometimes we can help clarify things here for newer or other players that help them play, but without ruining the experience for anyone by disclosing the wrong things.

Another means is more consistent use of the Spoiler feature by participants here, to give other readers a choice as to how much they want to see/know.

Any thoughts on the above would be welcome, while realizing not everyone will agree with the same methodology. Thanks. Very Happy

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thebruce
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Rich and Greystone - you both hit your nails on their heads Smile

The rules aren't here to make UF more restrictive, only to attempt to provide a comfortable, inviting atmosphere for players to discuss and share, as one of any number of potential discussion communities for any particular ARG/subject. UF isn't the center of the ARG universe, just a passionate corner of it Razz
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Rich Reder wrote:
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in short, really, do what you want and are comfortable doing, and hope it goes over the way you intend =)


Thanks for the clarification you've given. Perhaps you'd be willing to add a bit more around some thoughts I have (and perhaps are shared by others):

As a player, personally, I don't always want to see behind the PM curtain too closely or frequently, because what I might see there could interfere with the suspension of belief necessary to fully enjoy an ARG. However, sometimes my curiosity does get the best of me, and by doing some research I discover some things that I choose NOT to share with anyone else, for fear of ruining the game experience for others. [One example might be, the real identities/names of the actors/characters and other things they've been involved with!]

Another thing I've noticed: Some players want to know EVERYTHING other players have discovered in game, and sometimes resent that not everything is shared. However, it seems to me that there can legitimately be a reward or payoff for more skillful or dedicated players that others are not necessarily entitled to share - in other words, enjoying the fruit of someone's hard labor. Yes, it is good to share in a team spirit, but all gamers (just like in real life) are not equal in skill or level of commitment or time invested.

So, one solution to the above would be merely to avoid/stay away from unforum. However, sometimes we can help clarify things here for newer or other players that help them play, but without ruining the experience for anyone by disclosing the wrong things.

Another means is more consistent use of the Spoiler feature by participants here, to give other readers a choice as to how much they want to see/know.

Any thoughts on the above would be welcome, while realizing not everyone will agree with the same methodology. Thanks. Very Happy


As someone who isn't a hard-core arg player, I really look to this forum as a way to speak to fellow game players to solve codes, to look at the next step, etc...
I'm not very good at probing questions to those characters in-game, so I look for advice here.....to see what you all have been asking them, and why. I'd really like to know how to do the same. I do not feel like anyone owes me all the answers, but i'd just like some helpful hints.
It's a bit rough when someone says that the more advanced or skilled players deserve the information they are given because they earned it.....There ARE new people who are intelligent and want to contribute, but haven't really been immersed in an ARG from the start or had someone to guide them as a mentor.

I think you're a great player Rich, I'm just replying to your post and I'm not pointing fingers, but I'm a bit of a frustrated new arg-er Smile

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Renna wrote:
Rich Reder wrote:
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in short, really, do what you want and are comfortable doing, and hope it goes over the way you intend =)


Thanks for the clarification you've given. Perhaps you'd be willing to add a bit more around some thoughts I have (and perhaps are shared by others):

As a player, personally, I don't always want to see behind the PM curtain too closely or frequently, because what I might see there could interfere with the suspension of belief necessary to fully enjoy an ARG. However, sometimes my curiosity does get the best of me, and by doing some research I discover some things that I choose NOT to share with anyone else, for fear of ruining the game experience for others. [One example might be, the real identities/names of the actors/characters and other things they've been involved with!]

Another thing I've noticed: Some players want to know EVERYTHING other players have discovered in game, and sometimes resent that not everything is shared. However, it seems to me that there can legitimately be a reward or payoff for more skillful or dedicated players that others are not necessarily entitled to share - in other words, enjoying the fruit of someone's hard labor. Yes, it is good to share in a team spirit, but all gamers (just like in real life) are not equal in skill or level of commitment or time invested.

So, one solution to the above would be merely to avoid/stay away from unforum. However, sometimes we can help clarify things here for newer or other players that help them play, but without ruining the experience for anyone by disclosing the wrong things.

Another means is more consistent use of the Spoiler feature by participants here, to give other readers a choice as to how much they want to see/know.

Any thoughts on the above would be welcome, while realizing not everyone will agree with the same methodology. Thanks. Very Happy


As someone who isn't a hard-core arg player, I really look to this forum as a way to speak to fellow game players to solve codes, to look at the next step, etc...
I'm not very good at probing questions to those characters in-game, so I look for advice here.....to see what you all have been asking them, and why. I'd really like to know how to do the same. I do not feel like anyone owes me all the answers, but i'd just like some helpful hints.
It's a bit rough when someone says that the more advanced or skilled players deserve the information they are given because they earned it.....There ARE new people who are intelligent and want to contribute, but haven't really been immersed in an ARG from the start or had someone to guide them as a mentor.

I think you're a great player Rich, I'm just replying to your post and I'm not pointing fingers, but I'm a bit of a frustrated new arg-er Smile


i agree with renna... im newish to this kinda thing also , but i choose to play the game differently than others. I dont rush the pace of the game, i simply probe everything and anything because as its been clearly demonstrated, some of you are more privy to information than others seem to be...

for example rich (no offence like) seems to get more information from the staff than i do.

and with eggz can get on better with the girls on twitter than i can.

and with regards to the emails from dahlia and anne, it was wiki and rich that recieved them.. why not all byologic players?

Personally i had the same information from byoleaks, simply because im a member and have access to the posterious site ( i can say that cos this is OOG :p) but had wiki chose not to share that email. Some of the byologic vips could have still been sitting in the dark...

playing the game and askin different questions and getting on with different characters doesnt mean i wont get the same information as yall, just means i get it via a different route.. i dont want to feel like im being chastised for asking questions and taking it at my own pace. ... i want to enjoy the experience the best way i can, (perhaps all those years at uni getting my degree in criminal defence law has made me question EVERYTHING and everyone)

I sometimes think the teamwork on this game has gone a bit downhill. Everyone seems to be keeping something or other aside from everyone else, and thats not intended to gripe at anyone , as i myself have been guilty of this, ie.. not sharing every email i have, or not sharing certain pieces of information.

Not that im suggesting that we all need to tell everyone everything, but like renna i come here to see what other people have info wise, i gotta be honest i normally get everything and share everything with the facebook group... but i have kept certain things back because i wasnt sure what was OOG and what wasnt.

i think we all need to be respectful to how others want to play the game. And be respectful of the pace at which we want to play the game. If we didnt ask questions then we wouldnt get answers.

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I'm also wary of using Facebook for ARGs, mainly because FB doesn't have guidelines like UF, and it's much more 'social networky'; and if someone does try to do a form of 'protected' discussion area (group/page) it typically ends up pretty limited or restricted access; and it's hard to tell there what's in-game and oog, if someone's playing their 'ingame' character or just themselves as a player...
at UF, it's a 'safe zone' in that sense. No one here should be playing a character, and no PM should use any info here in-game (nor take part in their own arg discussions, as per the TOS).
It's just the nature of community and discussion and the different website networking styles.
No one can be told what to do out there, but in here, it's an OOG shelter, and a place where anyone should feel free to share and say what they wish, as themselves.
"Trust" is indeed a big word in ARGs; and we try to make Unfiction a place to trust and be trusted, and welcome and be welcomed Smile

Anyway... to attempt to steer the thread back on track... has anyone checked out @fisher4truth? I see a few recognizable names mentioned and followed/ing...
I just received a mailed letter from this "Paul F" which I'll post momentarily...
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I certainly agree that unforum is a great and appropriate place to mentor other players new to ARG's in general and specific games in particular. I have tried to do this myself. I've also been assisted and rightly corrected more than once here by other well-intentioned players. Surprised

Personally, the mysterious part of stories is as intriguing to me as the solutions/reveals. Smile Good games seem to end all too soon, and we're just left with great memories, new online friendships, and wishes for the next awesome campaign!

In the case of ByoLogyc, the GameMakers (ZED.TO) chose to reveal their plans and the trajectory of the game well in advance as part of their experimental live-interactive-theater-wedded-with-ARG model, while other ARGs typically conceal the plot outline and even the PM identities until after endgame.

In summary, there's nothing wrong with asking questions, as long as it's understood that no one - player, character, or PM - is obliged to give answers they don't choose to.

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Here's the letter... hmm....

Quote:
Hello,

My name is Paul Fisher and I am writing to you because Mr. Real says you can be trusted. Me Real says you did something big time for the cause. Mr real also says I'm in charge of byoleaks now. (Please don't tell people more than you have to). In obscurity we find strength. Byologyc must be ended. Something happened at the VIP Launch Party. Something that could potentially be highly dangerous, but BYOLOGYC as usual, is being highly secretive. Every moment they spend not revealing the truth, they put people at risk. Their secrecy endangers everyone who was there, and potentially others who weren't. Every is at risk.
I need your help.
I need your help because you are inside. Since you are in the ByoLogyc snake pit already, you need to use your position and try and get information from them. Use whatever connections you have. Please pressure whoever you can.
Be careful.
Take your time.
Steady pressure, exerted over the next couple weeks will yield results.
Be strong. Be careful.

Paul F.
(burn this. contact me only by email or twitter)


Consider yourselves pressured Razz
I don't know who else got or will be getting this letter; it's a photocopy (2 pages) of a two-sided lined sheet.
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Man oh man, the things I miss when UF doesn't alert me...

Firstly, the way that I play the game, yes I do sometimes get info from some of the characters that not everyone gets, but I take it on trust. When that information seems to find it's way to some other players at some point later on, I then offer forward anything that I have. You'll notice an older post that I made was edited later; after I posted some information, one of the staff made a mention that "what we discussed stays between us, right?", perhaps indicating that they do not want that made public yet. So I removed it. It's not critical information and hasn't changed the game, nor has it popped up yet. If it does, you can be sure I'm gonna share the whole thing here Smile

However Angela, you mention that you feel somewhat chastised from how you play by not getting access to certain information. Yet you apparently have access to a whole other group or means of information that most of us don't. I didn't get that email from Ann either, but you seemed to know about it after it was posted here. You also had the option to share that information.

Secondly, the letter. From what I can gather about past info, the previous "leader" at ByoLeaks was exe/louis riel. Therefore Mr Real = Riel. Which brings up some questions: What happened behind the scenes to initiate a change in leadership? Why Paul (who I think is @fisher4truth on Twitter) as the choice for leadership?

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From what I can gather about past info, the previous "leader" at ByoLeaks was exe/louis riel. Therefore Mr Real = Riel. Which brings up some questions: What happened behind the scenes to initiate a change in leadership? Why Paul (who I think is @fisher4truth on Twitter) as the choice for leadership?

Perhaps Louis Riel aka @exe was demoted/eliminated when the ByoLeaks website was taken down. Or maybe Paul aka @fisher4truth is merely a new alias he's adopted.

Of course for those not in the ByoLeaks group it's not very important anyway.

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