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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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Serum wrote:
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Yeah, I personally believe that moment was the beginning of the partnership between Hoody and Masky. I used to think that maybe they had known each other longer, but I like this idea better. Very Happy lol.


I'm a little skeptic about the whole Hoody and Masky partnership. Sure, we've seen them working together, but that was one time. Now Hoody is steeling Tim's pills and making him turn into Masky and blaming Jay for it when it's really all Hoody's fault because he's being a narc.


Well, something that makes it seem like they've been working together is Masky appearing in many, MANY of ToTheArk's videos. More than any other character.

But, this all goes back to ANOTHER one of my theories. When I say "partnership", I don't mean "friendship". I see Hoody (and, therefore, Brian) as having an anti-social personality. In short, that means they only care about their own goals and preservation and can't understand or care about anyone else's emotions. I think Tim and Brian were "friends". mainly because they lived next door to each other and another of the MOs of an anti-social personality is appearing EXTREMELY charming and charismatic on the outside. But, Brian didn't realize that Alex and him were not the only ones with history involving the Operator.

All three of them have come out of their encounters with the Operator differently. Brian became cold, calculating, and unfeeling but still definitely against the Operator, Tim created an altered state of mind which took the brunt of the abuse from the Operator and allowed him to survive, and Alex eventually gave into his fear and began working with the Operator hoping his life would be spared in exchange.

Masky and Hoody's partnership boils down to Hoody trying to keep Tim in his fugue state and using him as his muscle since, as proven by this entry, Brian can't handle the physical aspects of his job. He sends Tim into his masked state again because it suits him at this moment. He wanted Jay to jump into action, and he did.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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McGregor wrote:
SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
Yeah, I personally believe that moment was the beginning of the partnership between Hoody and Masky. I used to think that maybe they had known each other longer, but I like this idea better. Very Happy lol.


Well if Hoody is Brian then they have known each other for quite some time according to Tim. They were good friends even, I believe.


Yeah, I mentioned that in the HUMONGOUS post I just made. Very Happy

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Geneaux486
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 		Not only has Tim appeared in so many toothy-arc vids, but the two entities (in my opinion actually one) were constantly at the same places at the same times in season 1 (Brian's house, Jay's apartment, etc.).

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McGregor wrote:
SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
Yeah, I personally believe that moment was the beginning of the partnership between Hoody and Masky. I used to think that maybe they had known each other longer, but I like this idea better. Very Happy lol.


Well if Hoody is Brian then they have known each other for quite some time according to Tim. They were good friends even, I believe.


If Brian and Tim have known each other for so long, it makes me wonder how much Brian knew about Tim's past.
Interesting how Brian was pals with two people suffering from slendysickness, no? Who knows what he may have observed from them?

For all we know, maybe Brian joined Alex's film (and dragged Tim along) so he could observe the two better and try to figure out what was going on with them.

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ToTheArcanine wrote:
McGregor wrote:
SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
Yeah, I personally believe that moment was the beginning of the partnership between Hoody and Masky. I used to think that maybe they had known each other longer, but I like this idea better. Very Happy lol.


Well if Hoody is Brian then they have known each other for quite some time according to Tim. They were good friends even, I believe.


If Brian and Tim have known each other for so long, it makes me wonder how much Brian knew about Tim's past.
Interesting how Brian was pals with two people suffering from slendysickness, no? Who knows what he may have observed from them?

For all we know, maybe Brian joined Alex's film (and dragged Tim along) so he could observe the two better and try to figure out what was going on with them.


Ooh, I like this idea! Brian only being friends with Tim cuz he thinks he could have slendysickness, and then agreeing to a horrible film because he thought he found another person with it. Only being around them because he wanted to learn about their pasts and if they could be useful for information about the Operator.

Very cold, very calculating, and very emotionally distant.

I like it. Very Happy

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters wrote:
I see Hoody (and, therefore, Brian) as having an anti-social personality.


Okay, even if Brian is ToTheArk/Hoody, he doesn't have an anti-social personality. Have you seen Brian? The dude's built like a linebacker, he's a pretty boy in every sense of the word and could steal everyone I know's girlfriends. There's no way a guy who looks like that is anti-social.

For reference purposes, this is what Brian is to the social world...



And this guy is anti-social...



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 		I'm sorry, but I think that you are incorrect. Alex had to have dragged Brian away. Why? There was a FIVE SECOND gap between the end of the dragging and Alex's appearance. The dragging lasted all of ten to fifteen seconds. Considering how long it was taking to move Brian a few feet, no one else could have taken him without Alex noticing. Sorry.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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 		This guy's anti-social as well:

http://images.medicaldaily.com/datainfo/images/2012/7/5066james-holmes.jpg


And so is this guy:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4083/socio.png


And, this guy seems pretty buff to me:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/nov09/amity1b.jpg


You can't tell whether a person has a personality disorder by the way they look.

Oh, and, you wanna know my greatest defense?

This guy's also anti-social:

https://unwrappingminds.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/americanpsycho.png

You wanna know what they both have in common? THEY'RE BOTH ACTORS AND NOT ACTUALLY ANTI-SOCIAL.

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SheWhoSlaysMonsters
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SignerJ wrote:
I'm sorry, but I think that you are incorrect. Alex had to have dragged Brian away. Why? There was a FIVE SECOND gap between the end of the dragging and Alex's appearance. The dragging lasted all of ten to fifteen seconds. Considering how long it was taking to move Brian a few feet, no one else could have taken him without Alex noticing. Sorry.


Y'see, that's the biggest problem with my theory, but the one thing that holds it up is the fact that Alex doesn't check any of the rooms. Maybe they didn't leave the building.

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 		I really just don't see Hoody and Tim being 'in cahoots'. Or even having spoken to eachother at any time.

I see Totheark and Alex as being two sides of the same coin. Each of them have gone deeper than anyone else, and are more dedicated to finding out the truth about the Operator. Alex prefers to go about it on his own, utilising brute force if necessary, and becomes ever more asocial and dangerous as he gets closer.

Totheark, on the other hand, is more of a manipulator. He is using Tim and Jay to find the truth for him. He manipulates Tim by encouraging him to take on his Masky persona, which appears to have a more proactive link to the Operator than Sane Tim, and he manipulates Jay to keep looking with his cryptic Youtube videos, as well as the occasional direct action, such as returning his camera or... er... burning down his flat.

To this end, I'm inclined to name Brian or Seth as Totheark. His knowledge both of Marble Hornets and of those involved suggests that he related to it. Alex's betrayal of both men would adequately explain their animosity towards him. I also like the conjecture that Seth's job would have aided him in the striking visual effects in the Totheark videos.

In the end, I think we honestly won't know until Troy decides to show us. If there was one obvious answer everyone would be agreeing on it by now.

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 		What you just described is pretty much them being in cahoots. They don't have to be friends to be partners.

Also, whether or not Hoody and Masky are friends, it's been made clear that Tim and Brian are. So, technically, if Brian is Hoody, they HAVE to have spoken to each other. Just maybe not while Tim was being Masky.

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 		Here is something that I haven't thought of before: Brian is too bulky to be TTA. Thus, that eliminates essentially everybody, meaning that the only option left is that of a new character.

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 		umm... what?
give me a few minutes and I'll screencap some shots of 61 Hoody and various Brians

EDIT: BEEPBEEP Delivery


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What if The Operator is really the ghost of movie critics past trying to prevent Alex from ever making his god-awful movie?

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SignerJ wrote:
Here is something that I haven't thought of before: Brian is too bulky to be TTA. Thus, that eliminates essentially everybody, meaning that the only option left is that of a new character.


for out of game reasons we can't really compare body types.

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Multiple people have played hoody and his body type changes from entry to entry because of that.


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Okay, even if Brian is ToTheArk/Hoody, he doesn't have an anti-social personality. Have you seen Brian? The dude's built like a linebacker, he's a pretty boy in every sense of the word and could steal everyone I know's girlfriends. There's no way a guy who looks like that is anti-social.


Anti-social people are simply incapable of feeling guilt for harming others or violating their rights. You can't tell if someone is or isn't anti-social just by looking at them.

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