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Greystone
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I was asked to sit on this back in June.
It has now been chosen to be revield by the PMs in the form of leaking. This in not uncommon for ARGs
(Information leaked to one or two players for this information now ready to be let out in to the public for game use.)

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Dahlia did work for CSIS a government agency 5 years ago. She was caught snooping in government areas that she was not cleared for. She was arrested placed on the terrorist watch list and her passport revoked. She was bailed out and turned over to an unknown to her at the time, Chet. She has served her probation in Chet's custody for 5 years now. Just this past week Dahlia received her passport back. She is still trying to find out more about what she found in those government files But I currently will not tell what that is as requested. She is also trying to figure out what Chet's connection to all of this. Is he a good guy or a bad guy?


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mrshomersimpson
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Eggz wrote:
Man oh man, the things I miss when UF doesn't alert me...

Firstly, the way that I play the game, yes I do sometimes get info from some of the characters that not everyone gets, but I take it on trust. When that information seems to find it's way to some other players at some point later on, I then offer forward anything that I have. You'll notice an older post that I made was edited later; after I posted some information, one of the staff made a mention that "what we discussed stays between us, right?", perhaps indicating that they do not want that made public yet. So I removed it. It's not critical information and hasn't changed the game, nor has it popped up yet. If it does, you can be sure I'm gonna share the whole thing here Smile

However Angela, you mention that you feel somewhat chastised from how you play by not getting access to certain information. Yet you apparently have access to a whole other group or means of information that most of us don't. I didn't get that email from Ann either, but you seemed to know about it after it was posted here. You also had the option to share that information.

Secondly, the letter. From what I can gather about past info, the previous "leader" at ByoLeaks was exe/louis riel. Therefore Mr Real = Riel. Which brings up some questions: What happened behind the scenes to initiate a change in leadership? Why Paul (who I think is @fisher4truth on Twitter) as the choice for leadership?


and as i said..... in the post.... i HAVE withheld information i also gave the reasons why i did in the PREVIOUS post so this is just repeating myself..

nuff said.

anyways louis has gone missing, not even anne the byoleaks hacker has heard from him. The byoleaks posterious site has also seen his membership dissapear... which makes me wonder if one of the byologic staff are in on this poeterious site also.

I also know from the byoleaks site that there is more than ONE person on the inside helping to take it down, we already know dahlia is more than somewhat involved in this... IT has been hinted on byoleaks that henry has something to do with it also, which would tally in with what henry has told me.... ( i dont wish to disclose this yet - its not particularly cenrtal to the game at present)

Im begining to think that EVERYONE on the byologic team has a hand in this downfall and at least SOME connection to byoleaks.

Fisher for the truth, has been on the scene since the launch but his promotion within byoleaks comes as news. I dont even think anne (byoleaks hacker) knows this, paul has only JUST been invited onto the posterious site.

i also know that it wasnt tyler who did those drawings of chet that were circulated at the launch party, mainly because those were my drawings circulated by byoleaks. The music was a suggestion by another memeber and also the dont put it in your mouth interlude was suggested by anne. Theres also another member max. He is responsible for the flyers circulated at the launch

we at byoleaks are currently looking into ways to get the site up and running again. At present there is talk of getting a facebook page to share the information but we are all actually waiting to hear from paul... the new leader... tho we do hope to hear what happened to louis in good time.

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Rich Reder
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In the vein of safe OOG discussion that should neither offend the game makers nor significantly affect their plans, I do find it rather odd there's now been nearly a month's hiatus, with only some random Tweety hints thrown out from time to time... although there have been some intriguing conversations between the staff and the interns. Very Happy

Is it shortage of plot material, involvement in other projects, financial issues, or merely to create the scenario of secrecy and desperation behind the scenes? Since July 19 basically, we "the monkeys have been running the zoo" as an old saying goes. Certainly the actors deserved a rest after their grueling 10 day launch run. However, I do wish the VIPs had been given more to do in the interim. Granted, we have been thanked several times for our patience.

I will be very interested in learning more about their rationale in a hoped-for post-endgame wrap-up from ZEDtoronto.

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thebruce
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Remember, the only officially planned next in-game event is Nuite Blanche at the end of september. IMO, anything between these planned events is icing on the cake, bonus material. As long as they hit that big event target (and don't mess up the story in the process), they're still good in my books. Wink ie we should be cautious about putting too much expectation on them, setting ourselves up for disappointment.
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OutwadRooted
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I'm also new to all this ARG stuff, but I have read the results of a couple of past ARGs, such as the Year Zero NIN thing, and the I Love Bees thing. Since I live in the middle of the USA, I get to miss the real fun stuff, like the live events. However, I like trying to figure out what's going on with the tasks and things of those nature. I mean, really? Examine a decomposed animal? Why would they want that information? And why would they want to know if I would be willing to inject someone with an "unknown substance?" I'm not exactly a master bio-chemist, so things seem a little fishy.

Also, I'm very new to this whole Twitter thing. I just sent a thing that I think I did right, and that the Byo-team should be able to see. Once I figure out all these new-fangled devices, I'll get more involved. I'm mostly just too afraid that I'll ask some wrong question, or post something somewhere that I shouldn't, things of that nature.

I really enjoy reading what everyone else has chosen to post up. I wish I had the kind of ARG-skill / drive / determination to dig more into the inner workings of this whole ByoLogyc stuff. Until I get more comfortable, I think I'll be content to read over what other people have worked hard for. I'm pretty good at being lazy.

Question: Is it O.K. to just subscribe or whatever to the twitters of those involved with this? I know Twitter doesn't stop you, or require the other person to accept. I just don't want to end up "following" someone that I shouldn't, and wind up somehow ruining things for myself.

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OutwadRooted
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And just to clarify for myself: This forum is OOG (I assume mean Out of Game). Is Facebook In Game or Out? I'm pretty sure it was stated, but sometimes I need stuff explained to me like I'm a second grader. I just want to know where I can and can't post any super sweet, juicy information I stumble across, and not get myself in trouble with the game mechanics.

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Rich Reder
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However, I like trying to figure out what's going on with the tasks and things of those nature. I mean, really? Examine a decomposed animal? Why would they want that information? And why would they want to know if I would be willing to inject someone with an "unknown substance?" I'm not exactly a master bio-chemist, so things seem a little fishy.

Glad to try and help clarify for you; others here will no doubt reply as well. Short answer to above: The premise of the story is that ByoLogyc is really an evil pharmaceutical company with goals of population (customer) manipulation, but trying to pass their products off as life-enhancing. Therefore the tasks are intended to come across as creepy and questionable. Don't interpret the questions too literally. Many players make stuff totally up; just use your imagination, have some fun with it and don't worry about making your answers too serious. Wink

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Question: Is it O.K. to just subscribe or whatever to the twitters of those involved with this? I know Twitter doesn't stop you, or require the other person to accept. I just don't want to end up "following" someone that I shouldn't, and wind up somehow ruining things for myself.

It is safe to follow any of the characters (ByoLogyc staffers) on Twitter, they won't tweet anything you aren't supposed to know. The other players (VIP's) usually post there in-game as well.

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Rich Reder
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OutwadRooted wrote:
And just to clarify for myself: This forum is OOG (I assume mean Out of Game). Is Facebook In Game or Out? I'm pretty sure it was stated, but sometimes I need stuff explained to me like I'm a second grader. I just want to know where I can and can't post any super sweet, juicy information I stumble across, and not get myself in trouble with the game mechanics.

Answers to this can be found on the previous page (31) - so I won't repeat here. See comments by thebruce and Greystone. Thanks.

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Greystone
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I am going to have some fun with my friend Rich Reder here.


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Glad to try and help clarify for you; others here will no doubt reply as well. Short answer to above: The premise of the story is that ByoLogyc is really an (allegedly) evil pharmaceutical company with goals of (alleged) population (customer) manipulation, but trying to pass their products off as (allegedly) life-enhancing. Therefore the tasks are intended to come across as creepy and questionable. Don't interpret the questions too literally. Many players make stuff totally up; just use your imagination, have some fun with it and don't worry about making your answers too serious. Wink

For the "creepy" task, I had a lot of fun. My dead animal is a crime scene and the woman of wallymart was sad, looking for any friend for hours and waddled back and forth to the in store Mc D's. She would pick stuff, hold it, and put it back down. Just a lonely person with no place to go. You can see the pics on my FB page.

I used my Swab on an Oak tree! I am such a sap. Razz My hope is to grow big and strong. I should live to be 300 and always have wood! Mr. Green
While I was in the woods on "Mission ENT" I met a bunch of little people who say "Neep!"

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I am going to have some fun with my friend Rich Reder here... The premise of the story is that ByoLogyc is really an (allegedly) evil pharmaceutical company with goals of (alleged) population (customer) manipulation, but trying to pass their products off as (allegedly) life-enhancing.

My buddy is getting old and grey, I worry about him getting stoned and going out on a ledge...

Beware of ByoLogyc products, they tend to have strange side effects - like insomnia, and a strong compulsion to check unforum, Twitter and FB all hours of the night for updates. Shocked

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mrshomersimpson
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Greystone wrote:
I am going to have some fun with my friend Rich Reder here.


Quote:
Glad to try and help clarify for you; others here will no doubt reply as well. Short answer to above: The premise of the story is that ByoLogyc is really an (allegedly) evil pharmaceutical company with goals of (alleged) population (customer) manipulation, but trying to pass their products off as (allegedly) life-enhancing. Therefore the tasks are intended to come across as creepy and questionable. Don't interpret the questions too literally. Many players make stuff totally up; just use your imagination, have some fun with it and don't worry about making your answers too serious. Wink

For the "creepy" task, I had a lot of fun. My dead animal is a crime scene and the woman of wallymart was sad, looking for any friend for hours and waddled back and forth to the in store Mc D's. She would pick stuff, hold it, and put it back down. Just a lonely person with no place to go. You can see the pics on my FB page.

I used my Swab on an Oak tree! I am such a sap. Razz My hope is to grow big and strong. I should live to be 300 and always have wood! Mr. Green
While I was in the woods on "Mission ENT" I met a bunch of little people who say "Neep!"


HAHAHAHHA amazing.. i did notice the pics on your FB i loved the pink panther one! .. good call on the swabs! i just dipped mine in the cats water! i feel so unadventurous now....:S

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Key to remember: the PMs want to provide a cool, awesome, memorable experience. So hopefully they won't intentionally make you feel like crap, or mistaken, or belittled, or ruin anything for you. There is of course a line to believability. If the company is serious, and they want you to do something, there's likely only so far you can go before believability is thrown out the window if they readily approve of anything you do Razz
At best they could reward you for your "creativity" hehe.
Nonetheless, play it how you like. I prefer playing args as myself, not role playing or being unrealistic (in context) =)
Just have fun, really.

And yeah, we can say nothing, from Unfiction, about other social places. They have to make their own rules. Unfiction has a TOS, linked at the top of the page, which is for players and creators, formed over years of practical experience in dealing with community and PM "experimentation" Wink brush up if/when you have time, it should give a better sense of what these experiences are about.

And finally, there's absolutely nothing wrong with being a lurker. Chances are 3/4 or more of forum visitors are lurkers who rarely ever take part, only follow along!
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Greystone
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Uh.. Ummm Coffee Coffee
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Beware of ByoLogyc products, they tend to have strange side effects - like insomnia, and a strong compulsion to check unforum, Twitter and FB all hours of the night for updates.


Errr....Ahhhh.... What time is it?


Thunk! Drool

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mrshomersimpson
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so i got this letter today, also. Pretty much says the same as wikis mine seems to have some underlying writing but it looks like its just where the ink has run... :S wondering now if everyones going to get one? very exciting!

...and we here atbyoleaks are working on our next adventure! with our new leader paul!.

also appearing on the byoleaks private members site.. was the official response from dahlia to anne



As promised, I received a response from Dahlia's work email recently. It has, redictably, been rather neutered.

Good Morning Ann,

Thank you for emailing me as we discussed over Twitter. As promised, I will address what I can.

I can certainly agree that the launch did not go as planned. We had all been under the impression that ByoRenew was ready to go - it would seem that when Byoleaks hacked our website, they were somehow able to change the code for ByoRenew as well, thus destabilizing the product. I'm not sure if you were a part of this, but I'm sure you can understand that we are concerned about the potential risk that has been inflicted on our customers. As of now, Adrian Quinn and Davian Baxter, our top scientists, are working around the clock to ensure the product is stable and ready to pass HPFB once again. As for the swabbing, that is our standard procedure. I understand that it can be invasive, however we want to be able to take care of all of our customers should any unforeseen issues arise.

We appreciate you sharing with us the compilation of documents that you have - unfortunately, I cannot comment on the results of any investigations at this time, as they are still ongoing, but we are taking steps to ensure that VIP data is secure and that no current or former employees of Byologyc pose any risk whatsoever to either our company or our clients.

As for why there has been no public comment yet, these things take time. We want to make sure we have fully investigated everything and have a complete, factual picture before we announce anything to our VIPs and the general public. I'm sure you can appreciate that we want to be thorough.

Thanks again for opening up, and please contact me if you have further questions.

Regards,
Dahlia
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Looking Forward [SPEC]

Here are some thoughts I have. For those not familiar with or avoiding the ZED.TO (Gamemakers) overview of ByoLogyc, I'll use the Spoiler mask. For the curious who dare to think out of the pill bottle as it were, take a peek:

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Okay, our plot trajectory is all downhill henceforth. The nice chats we've been enjoying with our staff friends will likely grow more terse. Indeed, some of the employees may be dismissed or even vanish. Sides will be chosen up - ByoLogyc vs. ByoLeaks. Product users will suffer and die. The corporation will self-destruct, unfortunately taking employees, VIPs and customers along with it. Plus, the world outside is NOT getting better, either. We are headed down the slippery slope to The End of Time and life on earth as we know it!

There are several convergent real-world themes which tend in the same direction. Depending upon your beliefs, these are the variations:
End of this age - return of Christ, 12-12-12 theories
Economic meltdown - unemployment, poverty, worldwide financial chaos, runaway personal/corporate/government debt, Occupy movement
Environmental disaster - pollution, ozone hole, insufficient resources, over-population
Moral anarchy - crime, family breakdown, abortion, euthanasia, child pornography, human trafficking
Nations collapsing - war, gangs, one-world totalitarian rule
Terrorism - physical and cyber
All the above are somewhat inter-related, even though not everyone shares the same perspective on them... not to mention possible solutions, if any.

Now, if ByoLogyc is truly the awesome thought-provoking and status-quo-challenging experiment it seems to be so far, I truly hope that they plan to include some content from EVERY element that I've outlined above! And I'm recently seeing some signs that my wish (macabre though it be) may just be granted, at least to some extent. Twisted Evil

Personally, I can't wait to attend the End Game - Nov. 2 & 3 in the Toronto area - to see all this culminate in the live theatrical grand finale. Worshippy

I'd welcome reading your thoughts, opinions and hunches along these lines. Shall we meet back here in the Red Zone? Shocked


P.S. I do hope the Gamemakers read this. Wink

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