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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2012
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TallulahBelle
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Loki210 wrote:
So I mostly lurk here to keep tabs on this series, but this whole Dr. C being inHABITED thing really got me thinking back to old hints. Not only did this immediately remind me of those old back and forth tweets, it also reminded me of a bit of dialogue no one here has brought up yet.

Back in the first "Candleverse" video, where the boys are sitting around talking, as Evan is chained up he recounts what it was like to be in a fight with Dr. C, presumably under the control of HABIT (it's implied the Candleverse Evan fully understands his relation to the HABIT entity.) He seems sorry about it, as if he is guilty because HABIT won out and killed/inhabited the doctor. Now, that one piece of dialogue is the only reference we have of a direct conflict between the two of them ever taking place. It could be that it happened as early as when the ghost tweets were sent, and we were witnessing that fight then.. Habit eventually winning out for control of the Sanctuary, and now he's using the guise to trick Vin.

EDIT: Nevermind... I completely forgot about Nick. Now I just feel silly. No idea why I immediately jumped to the Doctor. Must have just been what I had originally thought he was referring to.


I followed you all the way to the edit, then you lost me. What about Nick?

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Fallenmeowbob
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 		Lady in the Light
Small Theory.

Lady in the Light referring to the Poets of the Fall song "The Poet and The Muse" from Alan Wake since the two seem to have some kind of a role in the game, if only a small unimportant one.


EDIT: Also for the fact that music seems to play some sort of roll in the game as well.

EDIT2: Also thought that I should add some reason as to why this might relevant. If you read the Chorus, it mention's the Lady in the Light being mad, as well as finding her being the key to reshape your destiny. This could just be a shout out or just a small reference, but I thought I would mention it.

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briecheese
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7brokenboundaries wrote:
bendy wrote:
I want to know why Dr. C left magnum rounds in the storage facility. Did he want the boys to find them...?

Also, leaving this here


Which video is that from?

also, if corenthal did want them to find the rounds, then those may be the same types of rounds he used on slenderman to get himself and Vinny teleported. This is assuming that there was anything special in the rounds that would trigger a teleportation if the bullet hit slenderman which would definitely help the boys in their troubles.


We can only hope there's something special about them. Noah from TT tried to shoot Slendy already in Mary Asher video (only bringing this up since the series are technically linked) and not a single bullet hindered him.

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Lithp
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 		Isn't it implied, if not stated, that the 2 Slendermen are different beings?

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SHODAN
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Lithp wrote:
Isn't it implied, if not stated, that the 2 Slendermen are different beings?


It's more a matter of common sense that unless something is explicitly stated or shared that indicates they are the same individual.

Noah's appearance was more of a cameo than a crossover, the same kind of thing they did with the DH guys, but we don't expect the cult in that series to make an appearance here. Same idea.

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THmanslayr
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SHODAN wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Isn't it implied, if not stated, that the 2 Slendermen are different beings?


It's more a matter of common sense that unless something is explicitly stated or shared that indicates they are the same individual.

Noah's appearance was more of a cameo than a crossover, the same kind of thing they did with the DH guys, but we don't expect the cult in that series to make an appearance here. Same idea.

i.e. He was the EMH version of Noah, as opposed to the actual Noah bringing am entire universe with him? I like that a lot. I always wondered how they planned in compromising the two worlds in the crossover...

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It's more a matter of common sense that unless something is explicitly stated or shared that indicates they are the same individual.


What?

Anyway, it seems to me that it's relatively easy to reconcile with 2 different Slendermen. Any inconsistency that comes up can be explained with, "They're not the same monster."

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THmanslayr wrote:
SHODAN wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Isn't it implied, if not stated, that the 2 Slendermen are different beings?


It's more a matter of common sense that unless something is explicitly stated or shared that indicates they are the same individual.

Noah's appearance was more of a cameo than a crossover, the same kind of thing they did with the DH guys, but we don't expect the cult in that series to make an appearance here. Same idea.

i.e. He was the EMH version of Noah, as opposed to the actual Noah bringing am entire universe with him? I like that a lot. I always wondered how they planned in compromising the two worlds in the crossover...

So when Slendy appeared on the plane before he got to NY, maybe a new Noah was being created for the EMH universe and the old one was put into some kind of limbo until he got back.

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THmanslayr
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Dr.Block wrote:
THmanslayr wrote:
SHODAN wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Isn't it implied, if not stated, that the 2 Slendermen are different beings?


It's more a matter of common sense that unless something is explicitly stated or shared that indicates they are the same individual.

Noah's appearance was more of a cameo than a crossover, the same kind of thing they did with the DH guys, but we don't expect the cult in that series to make an appearance here. Same idea.

i.e. He was the EMH version of Noah, as opposed to the actual Noah bringing am entire universe with him? I like that a lot. I always wondered how they planned in compromising the two worlds in the crossover...

So when Slendy appeared on the plane before he got to NY, maybe a new Noah was being created for the EMH universe and the old one was put into some kind of limbo until he got back.

No, the old one went to go see the TT version of the EMH gang (which may have been retroactively created when Slenderman appeared on the plane), while the "new" one (which also may or may not have been retroactively created on the plane) always existed in the EMH universe.
So basically...
EMH universe has a version of Noah in it where the facts gathered from Noah's Slenderman adventures (i.e. the existance of the Collective, etc.) don't contradict or build upon those of the EMH gang's. Likewise,
TT universe has a version of the EMH gang whose adventures don't contradict those of Noah's.
Therefore, even though we can see the "true" EMH universe and the "true" TT universe, when they look at each other's channels in their respective universes, they see something different from what we see. Noah wouldn't see anything relating to THE CYCLE for instance, because that does not exist in his universe.
I know it's kind of a long shot, but I can't really think of a less complicated way to reconcile the two series, which is something that kind of HAS to be done.

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Anonymousity
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 		Nope.

P sure it's all the same!!
Why else would there be two universes, who does such things, what kinda god?
Deal with it.



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Lithp
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 		What in the bloody fuck are you people talking about?

It seems simple to me. Either there are 2 different Slendermen, or just the one, who helps out HABIT for shits & giggles.

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Dr.Block
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Lithp wrote:
What in the bloody fuck are you people talking about?

It seems simple to me. Either there are 2 different Slendermen, or just the one, who helps out HABIT for shits & giggles.

Yeah, but...

I don't like to believe there's two slendermen. Sad

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THmanslayr
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 		But we can't analyze these series in massive detail on their own, and just ignore the contradictions when they cross over. Why does Slenderman only use his tentacles when he's up against Noah? If there are two different Slendermen, then why on earth are there two different Slendermen? Why is there no Candleverse!Noah or Candleverse!Milo? Why isn't Noah concerned about the Cycle? Why isn't the Slendercult going after Vince? This Is Not A Game after all. The two series don't mesh together to form any kind of consistent reality.
These are questions that need answers.
Also, the Dual Universe passage refers to the Candleverse, not to TT.

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THmanslayr wrote:
But we can't analyze these series in massive detail on their own, and just ignore the contradictions when they cross over.... These are questions that need answers.


I think you have to. Think of it like the comic book crossovers. Some of them treat it as if Superman and Spider-Man had always been on the same planet and has just somehow happened to have never bumped into each other, or even HEARD OF each other. Other times they sort of cross a dimensional barrier in order to meet. But in the end the characters always go home again and forget about each other and never mention it again. It's almost as if there are three universes. The two where the two characters live, and the one where they meet.

Yeah, it's cool that Superman met Spider-Man but if you focus too hard on it you have to start asking questions... where is Metropolis in comparison to NYC? Why doesn't Peter ever ask Clark for help? Or a job at the Daily Planet? Why don't they ever help each other?

Just focus on the cool factor and let the rest go. Or else you'll drive yourself crazy.

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arcanadei
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 		Titor multiverse model, different universes that bumped up against one another ala meddling hand of god to create a limited crossover of two distinct realities temporarily for fanboy/girl entertainment purposes. Or, ya know, it's just a couple of similarly minded authors who have independent but similar storylines and thought a meet up would be fun not only for themselves but also for the community which in no way affected the internal universes' consistencies, maybe possibly.
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