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Figuring out the Multiple "ToTheArk's"
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Geneaux486
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Now there's a thought. This was a tape in entry 26, right? Then how does such a fast skip between scenes end up on a tape?


Good point. It could be any of the reasons you listed, though I'm inclined to believe it's a combination of 1 and 3 in your list. The footage on J's tape when he warped into that boiler room had some similar abnormalities, especially towards the end. As for who delivered it, I never thought about it, kinda just assumed Alex used some kind of delivery service that would be alright with just leaving the package at someone's hotel door.

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BranRainey
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Susil wrote:
Now there's a thought. This was a tape in entry 26, right? Then how does such a fast skip between scenes end up on a tape? Perhaps I misunderstand how they work, but don't the digital tapes simply record in real time? All the fast flicking between images doesn't seem a natural result of how they work.


Not sure what you mean. If you stop recording and start recording somewhere else, there's going to be a "fast skip" to the new recording at the end of the old recording when you play it back. What do you mean by "record in real time"? The audio does cut when it skips to a different shot in the montage, so there's nothing impossible that I'm seeing (for Marble Hornets, anyway). If anything, the weird red stuff and random cuts in Entry #36 are more unnatural than the montage in 26.

Though it is true that the shots are very short and unlikely to be all together one after another like that. But then, Entry #36 had someone/something that caused the tape to randomly cut to red stuff and different angles in J's car, so I'm sure it's possible for the Operator to just corrupt a bunch of footage into a weird montage.

It could just as easily be TTA or Alex, though. There's really no proof either way I think.

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arcane_halo
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 		Just some theories about the video "Classified" I thought I'd bring up, don't you think the description "[][]" is kind of like a pair of eyes?

Maybe "the twins" refer to eyes.

Also "I know you're there" behind all the zero's makes it seem like he's talking from behind the wall.

Which could mean he's trying to say that he isn't distorted by the influence of the operator, and can see Jay/us whatever clearly.

Or maybe he's adressing whoever's working behind the operator. Perhaps he suspects J.

Either this, or there are two people with the same mask.


Edit:

Also, in "Extraction" the description is "never", so maybe something which can never be removed.

Based on the video content, it may be the hate totheark has.

"How much do you hate? it is not enough" may actually mean, rather than refering to his hate for just the operator or anyone specific, it may refer to Jay's capacity to hate.

Totheark may be trying to excite Jay to hate more FOR Tim's sake, rather than against him, since, Alex also did this.

This would imply totheark and masky and hoody are in cahoots, after attacking alex, that they are somehow "together in this".

So again I think totheark really is a "we" especially since he uses this a lot, though after watching them in a marathon, I notice that lately, he has been using "me".

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arcane_halo wrote:
Just some theories about the video "Classified" I thought I'd bring up, don't you think the description "[][]" is kind of like a pair of eyes?

Maybe "the twins" refer to eyes.


I haven't heard any "the twins" theory's in a long time. I'm just glad you happened to bring up one of the least ridiculous of all of them! since no one wants to scroll through the entire classified thread those consisted of everything from 2 slendies (red/black tie), to jay having an evil twin who is both totheark and the operator at the same time.

As far as extraction goes, I still think the title is just referring to the fact that slendy extracted Bruce.Though it could also mean with the "never" that he can never be extracted from where the operator took him. I think the "how much do you hate?" part was totheark trying to get jay mad.

aaaaaaaaaand ramble mode activate as i type that and think about the actual point of this thread, what if we were separating the totheark videos incorrectly? Instead of sorting them by the style of video, maybe we should be sorting by the intention of the video. Like maybe what videos were meant to antagonize jay, what ones were meant to frighten him, and what ones gave him information? maybe just those first 2? I'll look into it when I get home, but I think that could give us the number of totheark members better then the video styles.

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Doc.
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ToxicityLevel wrote:
Seems to me that there are indeed patterns in the descriptions. Some use // symbols, some are simple words, others are numbers, a few are puzzles to be translated, and a couple are merely punctuation. They probably DO spell something out when compiled appropriately. Awesome list, Vixen! Has anyone taken the time to put the whole compiled thing into a 64 translator? Or taken the translated bits and tried to piece them in?

To me, I really think that the entries that use the // symbols in the descriptions are probably one signature bit, the others that use mere words are another person's signature, the ones with numbers mayhaps are another signature. Maybe the entries with "codes" in the description are videos worked on by more than one TTA member.


Perhaps there is a message in the descriptions. What I've done so far is take all of the video descriptions, translated the binary and base64 where necessary and compiled a list. I then divided that list between math and text.

The math portion:

000(3?) 7 91 + # 000-0000 54321 [][]

Maybe a code or some type of equation?

The text portion so far:

I
remember me
again
failure nigh
hello again
are you drowning
see you saw you
behind the curtain
blind
maines sentroid
remain seated i will find you
never
I know you
end him
close by
do not fail
waiting on you

Can any of this be rearranged into something meaningful?

Hello, remember me? I see you behind the curtain again, are you blind? You know I will find you drowning again. I saw him waiting on you, do not remain seated,end him.

I know I'm waaaaaaay stretching here but my medicine makes my brain something something.

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 		Even if there is more than one TTA, none of them is Sarah. She's a stupid character who probably had to sleep with the director to get her five minutes of screen time.

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Even if there is more than one TTA, none of them is Sarah. She's a stupid character who probably had to sleep with the director to get her five minutes of screen time.


I think you're being unnessecarily harsh towards Sarah. She was Seth's girlfriend at the time I believe, and even if she wasn't, who cares? She's not really a bad character because in that one entry she was in you really couldn't tell much about her except that Alex was being rude. It's like saying tothepark is like, some creepy guy who watches people walking in the woods while listening to nickelback. You don't know that. Also, she was kind of the main character in marble hornets. Or at least the main love interest.

I can't see anything that would make someone have to rant about her. I agree she's most likely not totheark because it really doesn't make sense story wise. She's shown up once.

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I agree she's most likely not totheark because it really doesn't make sense story wise. She's shown up once.


You prove all my points. Also, in addition to Nickelback sucking, Hoobastank sucks even worse. If I could work my will, that band would be imprisoned in a two-dimensional cell and shot into deep space like at the end of Superman II.

And Sarah would be in there, too.

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Zebez wrote:
I agree she's most likely not totheark because it really doesn't make sense story wise. She's shown up once.


You prove all my points. Also, in addition to Nickelback sucking, Hoobastank sucks even worse. If I could work my will, that band would be imprisoned in a two-dimensional cell and shot into deep space like at the end of Superman II.

And Sarah would be in there, too.


I didn't prove all your points, because most of your points are baseless.

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Zebez wrote:
I agree she's most likely not totheark because it really doesn't make sense story wise. She's shown up once.


You prove all my points. Also, in addition to Nickelback sucking, Hoobastank sucks even worse. If I could work my will, that band would be imprisoned in a two-dimensional cell and shot into deep space like at the end of Superman II.

And Sarah would be in there, too.
A lot of venom for a small part character. You've been spewing vitriol everywhere about Sarah. Did she run over your dog?

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 		According to the season 1 DVD, Seth was never originally going to be in Marble Hornets. The only reason he was included was because Mary (Sarah's actress) asked Troy if she could bring him to the set the day they filmed entry 9. Sarah's character was planned, Seth's was not. And Seth only made his second on screen appearance now in season 3. So just because Sarah only appeared once in season 1 doesn't mean she was a random throwaway character. She's one of the people Alex listed as "gone", I'm pretty sure no one on that list is completely unimportant.

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Even if there is more than one TTA, none of them is Sarah. She's a stupid character who probably had to sleep with the director to get her five minutes of screen time.


I think you're being unnessecarily harsh towards Sarah. She was Seth's girlfriend at the time I believe, and even if she wasn't, who cares? She's not really a bad character because in that one entry she was in you really couldn't tell much about her except that Alex was being rude. It's like saying tothepark is like, some creepy guy who watches people walking in the woods while listening to nickelback. You don't know that. Also, she was kind of the main character in marble hornets. Or at least the main love interest.

I can't see anything that would make someone have to rant about her. I agree she's most likely not totheark because it really doesn't make sense story wise. She's shown up once.



she wasn't seth's girlfriend. and i'm in the boat that she won't be brought up again too. i feel like if she was going to be, she would have been in entry 54. being in the dvd doesn't confirm her as totheark since if she wasn't in it, it would have been practically non-canon since she was one of the two main characters in the movie

as far as "the twins" goes, i still think that it's referring to people. i think the story's leaning towards totheark growing up with tim and the operator bothering them for that long, and maybe the twins were two of their friends as kids or something... i just can't see them introducting two new characters at this point. it's gotta be someone that totheark knew from the past that we don't.

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paladin181 wrote:
Serum wrote:
Zebez wrote:
I agree she's most likely not totheark because it really doesn't make sense story wise. She's shown up once.


You prove all my points. Also, in addition to Nickelback sucking, Hoobastank sucks even worse. If I could work my will, that band would be imprisoned in a two-dimensional cell and shot into deep space like at the end of Superman II.

And Sarah would be in there, too.
A lot of venom for a small part character. You've been spewing vitriol everywhere about Sarah. Did she run over your dog?


I think my signature speaks for itself.

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 		At this point I'm beginning to suspect that you're just doing shtick.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
At this point I'm beginning to suspect that you're just doing shtick.


I just like to shoot down the "Sarah is ToTheArk Theory and here's why" people. It's sort of my thing.

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