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Who is the Seeker of the Ark?

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Raj39
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Serum wrote:
McGregor wrote:
I can't wait until Sarah inevitably appears in a future entry just so I can laugh at you.


Yeah, keep waiting. You'll be waiting awhile. Sarah's a stupid little bitch who got what she deserved-- getting killed off early in the series for being a meaningless little cunt.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:26 am
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Geneaux486
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If that isn't the face of someone searching for an ark I don't know what is.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:06 am
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Dasbones
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Okay, so I'm pretty high right now, but take this theory as you will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y7_WP9HOME Entry 22

On mark 5:15, you see the creepy frowny face D:
When I first saw this, I thought it was slender-distortion on such a massive scale that it was upset about it, or slenderman's real face. It didn't go anywhere, didn't seem to have a reason.

Until we meet hoody.

Hoody would appear to be the actual camera man to the Totheark videos, and in my opinion; TIMasky's handler.

Notice that in http://youtu.be/N7QXQZjp5XM Entryhashtaghashtaghashtag

Masky is being filmed, I just can't see Tim setting up those shots. He very well could have, but all that we've seen of masky is that he likes to tackle more than he likes to think things through. When I say he was filmed, in fact whenever masky is filmed in the totheark videos, it would seem to me it would take alot of editing. and Seth, to my knowlege (I could very well be wrong with the name. in the event of that, just replace the name of the actual camera guy for the Student Film was in your head.) the Film editor and camera guy, while Alex was director and camera man as well, jay was an intern, Sarah, Tim, and Brian were actors. Tim seemed exclusively and actor, most likely because of his friendship of Brian. He even explictly states "I am not the Camera Guy." Seth is though.

He's also unseen, I don't think we've even seen him on camera (could be wrong, welcome to be wrong in fact.) Just like hoody was, until now. I doubt he just 'showed up' in the middle of nothing, he's been with Masky for a while. Masky seems to me to be the attack dog, the shock trooper, the agro lineguard of the Totheark defense. Always scaring jay, pushing jay where they want him to go, attacking Alex. When Jay chased him through the woods, when Jay finally screamed "What do you want!?"... well I don't think he knows, he just does what he's told.

Only until Tim hung up the ole' masky mask have we seen this mysterious hooded figure, with the similar frowny face D: that was seen in entry 22

When Seth got taken.

He may have survived, Tim did, but I believe Seth had to lose a bit of himself in the process, maybe more physical than mental like with what happened to Tim. Which could explain hoody's full body disguise, lack of any distinguishing characteristics like sideburns, tim's hair, or the same fucking jacket he wore in a video. We haven't seen anything of Seth to my knowledge, except for the frowny face D:, which was in the only video I know of where he plays a major role. In fact, Seth was the LAST one taken, there has to be some significance to that. We know next to nothing about this guy, less so than hoody, at least we've seen hoody.

The fact that Seth hasn't been shown much, makes me doubt the theory, no matter how sexy I think it is. And the Jessica connection is strong as well. But I don't think it's Jessica and here's why.

1. We don't know who she really is, and how deep is she into this conspiracy, outside of her roommateship with Amy.

2.We don't know if she has any sort of talent with cameras, able to edit and put together the TTA vids.

3. When I saw hoody standing in Tim's room at a profile view, I saw no boob bump on the jacket. And Jessica isn't flatchested.

She may not be hoody, but she could be involved in TTA somehow. I think Jessica told hoody that Jay was going to meet with alex at Rosswood before jay had his slendercoma, sending Masky to save (?) them.

Outside of that I can't think of any reasons off-hand, who knows? I certainly don't :>

Sorry I don't know how to embed youtube vids, I'll get to looking that up later. I just wanted to jot this down while I still had it in my head.

PS. the above can and may very well be utter bullshit, so disregard that if you wish.[/i][/youtube]

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Kimren
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Geneaux486 wrote:
If that isn't the face of someone searching for an ark I don't know what is.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:03 pm
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Geneaux486
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I stand corrected.

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MARBLEHORNETSFAN12345
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Totheark

well in my opinion Brian its hoody

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Jingleman
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I'm not convinced that TTA has to be a character we've already seen. I'm not saying it can't be Brian or Seth or somebody like that, just that maybe we should hold our horses before we start thinking it's a done deal. It might be hard to imagine a new character that would fit retroactively for three seasons, but it's not an insurmountable obstacle.

A new character might make sense if they do enough foreshadowing before the big reveal, if it matches what they've done already. Jessica came out of nowhere, right? And Amy. It's not like it's unprecedented. There could be another person, another interested party, who's been in the background all along. Maybe Dr. [REDACTED]. Maybe a previous victim. I'm just saying, it's not so very certain that someone new might not be introduced over the course of the rest of the entries.

Also, I lean toward the "TTA is one person" camp. While I think (s)he may be working with any number of other folks, including Masky at various times, I don't detect enough difference in the videos to think that the TTA is more than one person. I'd be convinced of the one person theory except for Jay's comment to the contrary. On the other hand, Jay thought that Masky was TTA around the time of 19, and that's been mostly debunked, so I don't know what to think.

*Edited for clarity.

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paladin181
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Jingleman wrote:
I'm not convinced that TTA has to be a character we've already seen. I'm not saying it can't be Brian or Seth or somebody like that, just that maybe we should hold our horses before we start thinking it's a done deal. It might be hard to imagine a new character that would fit retroactively for three seasons, but it's not an insurmountable obstacle.

A new character might make sense if they do enough foreshadowing before the big reveal, if it matches what they've done already. Jessica came out of nowhere, right? And Amy. It's not like it's unprecedented. There could be another person, another interested party, who's been in the background all along. Maybe Dr. [REDACTED]. Maybe a previous victim. I'm just saying, it's not so very certain that someone new might not be introduced over the course of the rest of the entries.

Also, I lean toward the "TTA is one person" camp. While I think (s)he may be working with any number of other folks, including Masky at various times, I don't detect enough difference in the videos to think that the TTA is more than one person. I'd be convinced of the one person theory except for Jay's comment to the contrary. On the other hand, Jay thought that Masky was TTA around the time of 19, and that's been mostly debunked, so I don't know what to think.

*Edited for clarity.
I agree. Maybe this isn't the first instance of Tim's friends getting stalked by a faceless business man with poor people skills. Or maybe Tim isn't the first to be stalked by it, and TTA is a survivor of a previous occurrence.

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fezstudios
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I think totheark is:

Timasky
Hoody/Brian
Skully/Seth

The reason I picked Seth as Skully is that he is the cameraman and therefore would not often be seen. I imagine that Brian is Hoody because from what we've seen of B&H, they look similar in build. And obviously Timothy Wright is Masky.

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Jingleman
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fezstudios wrote:

Skully/Seth


I have to disagree here. These sorts of theories have been bouncing around for a long time, but I just don't buy it. See, when I first saw 26, the "Skully" image didn't strike me as the reveal of a new character. I've always thought that it was more like a symbolic warning of death, like TTA showing a skull to represent the gravity of the situation, or to make reference to some important death, past or future. In fact, I think it looks more like one of those traditional Mexican Day of the Dead decorations than someone wearing a mask.

In the many entries since 26, we've never had any evidence, direct or circumstantial, of a skull-masked person doing anything at all. We've even had the addition of another masked man, Hoody, and remember, he was revealed very explicitly over the course of several entries, in contrast to the brief flash of Skully that hasn't been referenced since. Until we get real, probative evidence of Skully, I have to think he's a non-character.

I don't buy the "Seth = cameraman, therefore x" theories, either. A lot of people theorize about the relationships the characters have to TTA or one another based upon what job they held in the filming of the Marble Hornets film, and some of those theories are clever, but I don't think that the jobs would have been so very well defined on an amateur film shoot. In fact, if the cameras they had didn't offer remote monitoring - and the crew isn't shown carrying around an extra TV for that - then usually, on amateur shoots, the director will want to do the camerawork himself.

Also, I don't think that the equipment they were shown using was complicated enough to imply any special expertise on the part of any of the people involved. It was just the same cheap, user-friendly, consumer camcorders that all the characters have been using to film themselves for years. We don't impute any special skills to Tim on the basis of his use of a camcorder for behind the scenes footage.

Anyway, I don't mean to call anybody out or anything; I've just been lurking for a long time and now that I've broken down an joined in, I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss these theories that I have never really understood.

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fezstudios
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Even If we never see skully again, I still say seth is part of TTA.

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Jingleman
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fezstudios wrote:
Even If we never see skully again, I still say seth is part of TTA.


That's certainly possible. Between the two, I tend to think that we'll see Brian as TTA if it's going to be a one-person-who-we've-met-before kind of thing, but if the multiple-TTA faction turns out to be right, then I'd definitely expect to see Seth in that mix.

My pet theory is still that TTA is a single person we haven't met, but with the season getting closer to an end, I'll have to revise that theory if we don't start getting overt hints pretty soon.

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I'm not sure how anyone can disagree with TTA being multiple people; the very earliest entries were clearly written from Masky's point of view, and a lot of the footage shown would have required unimpeded access to Masky. It's also quite obvious by this point that Masky cannot be the sole TTA contributor. Is there really another option?

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CraicIsMighty
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Exetera wrote:
I'm not sure how anyone can disagree with TTA being multiple people; the very earliest entries were clearly written from Masky's point of view, and a lot of the footage shown would have required unimpeded access to Masky. It's also quite obvious by this point that Masky cannot be the sole TTA contributor. Is there really another option?


In the last entry, we saw Hoodie break into Tim's house and film him having a seizure. S/He could probably have made any of the earlier TTA videos without Tim's cooperation.

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Jingleman
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Exetera wrote:
I'm not sure how anyone can disagree with TTA being multiple people; the very earliest entries were clearly written from Masky's point of view, and a lot of the footage shown would have required unimpeded access to Masky. It's also quite obvious by this point that Masky cannot be the sole TTA contributor. Is there really another option?


On the contrary, I find it quite probable that there is only one TTA. I am not sure which videos you are referring to as "clearly" from Masky's point of view, but I find no TTA video so obviously attributable. "Exit," for example, couldn't really have been from Masky's point of view, as we know Tim was elsewhere at the time the footage was shot. "Return" seems to be from the point of view of the Operator himself. So, no, it's by no means clear, obvious, or certain that the early videos were from Masky's point of view.

I readily grant that at various times, Masky and TTA have been in league, but since it became clear that Masky wasn't TTA, I have thought of him as something of a minion or lackey to TTA. This seems to jive with his almost feral personality, which was always difficult to reconcile with the technical savvy in the early days when Masky as TTA was the only real theory. It also accounts for the portrayal of Masky in "Entry######," which I interpret as TTA threatening to send Masky after Jay. It almost looks as if Masky is struggling against TTA's control, then succumbing to it and preparing to go after Jay. It also accounts for the disregard for Tim's health in 61, and allows for TTA to be in control and active during Tim's lucid periods.

TTA also refers to himself as "we" or "us" at various times, but it isn't clear that he means he's a group. For example, in "Messages," he seems to be using "us" to refer to the audience, not himself, as he chastises Jay for keeping a secret that TTA already knows. At other times, he may be referring to himself and his minions collectively, but TTA having minions is different than TTA being a group of people.

With regard to the claim that Jay makes that the styles have changed enough to deduce more than one creator of the clips, I find the TTA videos, from the very beginning, to be of quite erratic style. Some use stock footage, others show us footage from the present day characters, some use binary or code, others spell out messages directly, and so on. If we thought that such stylistic changes indicated different "members" of a group, we'd have to think that TTA is dozens of people, all equally crazy. Possible, but unlikely. Besides, Jay has been wrong before.

I realize that the "only one TTA" theory has fallen out of favor, but I hope you can see that it is still quite valid given the evidence we've seen. For clarity, let me state the theory one last time: The TTA is one person, whose knowledge of what's going on sets him apart from the other characters; his(her) motives are unknown; (s)he has been known to work with other people, though the implication is that they are minions under TTA's control; it is unknown whether that control represents a connection to the Operator, though many videos imply that TTA opposes TO.

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