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Jeremy_Thunder
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fezstudios wrote:
Jeremy_Thunder wrote:
OneEyedGod wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Can we be sure that Alex hasn't become part of TTA? They've stopped threatening him and there's no certainty that he's dead. What if he is hoodie? It would make sense in a way that he's manipulating Jay and Tim to find what he's looking for. What if the "Ark" is a way to control the Operator, and it has been Alex all along? The "attack" on Alex to save Jay and Jessica could have been staged to confuse Jay and change his perceptions about Tim/Masky. Just food for thought. I'd have to watch all the entries again in order to really flesh this out with details (and cons against) but it's not totally implausible, is it?


Eh, what about Entry 45?


During Jay's slendamnesia spell. Alex faked it to throw Jay off.

I don't really buy that. We don't even know if Skralex Kralie is still alive.


I can't really think of any other times we see the two of them at the same time. The times we see Hoody at Rosswood that I can think of off the top of my head, being when he watched Jay in his car, and when he returns the camera to Jay's car, I'm pretty sure both times he is waiting for Alex. Seems at least plausible..

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ZetaRuns
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paladin181 wrote:
Can we be sure that Alex hasn't become part of TTA? They've stopped threatening him and there's no certainty that he's dead. What if he is hoodie? It would make sense in a way that he's manipulating Jay and Tim to find what he's looking for. What if the "Ark" is a way to control the Operator, and it has been Alex all along? The "attack" on Alex to save Jay and Jessica could have been staged to confuse Jay and change his perceptions about Tim/Masky. Just food for thought. I'd have to watch all the entries again in order to really flesh this out with details (and cons against) but it's not totally implausible, is it?



I don't think Alex is Hoodie. Some of the TTA videos hint that they're after Alex, TTA needs Jay to find him. And another reason I don't think Alex is Hoodie is because from what we've seen, Hoodie is the sort of Passive agressive. Alex is waaay more agressive. Alex has attacked people and I can't think of a time where we've seen Hoodie actually attack someone.

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NickWilliams
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 		THAT DOESNT LOOK LIKE HOODIE IN 45. WHERE IS THE BLACK MASK AND GLOVES. HELLOOOOOOO.

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OneEyedGod
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NickWilliams wrote:
THAT DOESNT LOOK LIKE HOODIE IN 45. WHERE IS THE BLACK MASK AND GLOVES. HELLOOOOOOO.


BUT YOU DO KNOW THAT THINGS CAN LOOK DIFFERENT THROUGH NIGHTVISION, DO YOU?

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NickWilliams
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 		Enough to make it look like a completely different mask? Masky's thick black marker is still on his mask, so why wouldn't Hoody even look like hoody?

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KTsteve
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 		Wow... seriously parts of this thread were physically painful to read.

Tim wasn't blind, night tends to be dark, and jay likely shut the side led screen and used the viewfinder which usually also has an led screen in it with newer camera models. He also covered the red blinking light.

What we should have been trying to figure out about this was how the hell masky was able to sense Jay. He obviously didn't have the exact location of jay pinpointed, but got really close.

The text at the beginning of the entry is no longer blurry, because youtube likely fixed those compression issues.

Well, it looks like the "hoody is jay/alex" cycle continues... "Well this video proves for the umpteenth time that Jay isn't hoody... But maybe he's Alex?" Hoody is neither of them... It has been proven in quite a few videos.

Speaking of which now the video where masky/hoody are beating alex with a rock/watching is a lot more creepy. I'm definitely thinking it was never a partnership, more like a trained pet scenario.

Another thing, whether hoody wanted tim and jay together isn't the question. That should be obvious. More like why does he want them together?

Why no notes from Jay? I'm guessing he uploaded it in haste, or Tim uploaded it. However, this isn't a totheark post.

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Jeremy_Thunder wrote:
OneEyedGod wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Can we be sure that Alex hasn't become part of TTA? They've stopped threatening him and there's no certainty that he's dead. What if he is hoodie? It would make sense in a way that he's manipulating Jay and Tim to find what he's looking for. What if the "Ark" is a way to control the Operator, and it has been Alex all along? The "attack" on Alex to save Jay and Jessica could have been staged to confuse Jay and change his perceptions about Tim/Masky. Just food for thought. I'd have to watch all the entries again in order to really flesh this out with details (and cons against) but it's not totally implausible, is it?


Eh, what about Entry 45?


During Jay's slendamnesia spell. Alex faked it to throw Jay off.


Don't force theories to work people.
There's no reason for Alex to have faked this and he is rightfully pissed of at them for trying to kill him. It also ends with "If I find you again, I'll kill you" which signifies he isn't to fond of them.
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What if The Operator is really the ghost of movie critics past trying to prevent Alex from ever making his god-awful movie?

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KTsteve wrote:
Wow... seriously parts of this thread were physically painful to read.


The cancer is strong in this thread.
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What if The Operator is really the ghost of movie critics past trying to prevent Alex from ever making his god-awful movie?

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OneEyedGod
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 		Yeah, Maskys mask is made of some kind of plastic, whereas hoodys is just some cloth or something.
Both have completely different properties when it comes to reflection of infrared light (which is the light, which is detected through nightvision).

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NickWilliams
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 		Damn, now I feel like a jackass.

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Gold Knight
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NickWilliams wrote:
Enough to make it look like a completely different mask? Masky's thick black marker is still on his mask, so why wouldn't Hoody even look like hoody?

This was already discussed thoroughly back when 45 came out, and it was agreed that the night vision on the camera made Hoody's mask look the wrong color. Also, Jay confirmed that was Hoody in 45 at the end of 58.

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ZetaRuns
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KTsteve wrote:

What we should have been trying to figure out about this was how the hell masky was able to sense Jay. He obviously didn't have the exact location of jay pinpointed, but got really close.



I noticed that too. Though, I can't come up with any explanation that doesn't sound horrible. I thought perhaps he could hear Jay breathing, but if that were the case, we would obviously hear him as well. Maybe they could sense other's who have been affected by TO? But like I said, it's dumb.

Masky's Jay senses where tingling.

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FalloutGhoul
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 		I saw the entry yesterday.

Watching Jay trying to talke to Tim when he's actually talking to Masky (who is still probably pissed at him for whatever reason) was painful.

And when they woke up, you can tell Tim is still mad at Jay, but not as much as during Entry #59. This might mean Tim is willing to work with Jay again, knowing that they both are going through this crap.

And also, since Hoody was there when Tim was attacking Jay, we might see a totheark entry coming up quickly.

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elford
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 		When I watched the video for about the fourth or fifth time, I started to think about how Jay's voice gets muffled when Masky drags him away. There would really be no need to cover his head, or muffle his voice, unless they just didn't want him to see where he would be going. But I am more inclined to think that he has had a mask put on his face. If Jay was originally part of totheark, he would have probably had a Masky personality too, since there is more than one character mask. Also, Jay's muffled cries and the sounds of him being dragged away don't really fade into the distance, they fade, but then they just cut out. To me, it seems like Masky and Tim just disappear.

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elford
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 		sorry, I meant Masky and Jay, trying to type in a room full of people! Razz

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