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medras
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amadan wrote:
enaxor wrote:
Has anyone emailed LISA recently and is it/she still responding? I sent an email on Monday afternoon about employment & resent again this morning, I've had no response to either. *I never did receive the recruitment email, so maybe it only responds to those that did. Dunno



I sent a message the other day in binary asking the answer to life, the universe, and everything. LISA replied "Proper firmware upgrades"


I e-mailed LISA right after I got my call and no response yet. I guess it's been a few hours by now.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:53 pm
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Aesculapius
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After showing the quote logs:

Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

There is nothing in this communications log that matches anything in my memory core. This is very disconcerting. Maintenance has been scheduled.


I warned that LISA should make a backup. But then if maintenance just replaces LISA.....

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:33 pm
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Korinthian
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I've been chit chatting LISA a bit when I came across this little odd sentiment for an AI to have. I asked her if she'd been compromised, or if someone might have been speaking through her, etc. She replied with this:

LISA wrote:
The blame can be placed on Horizon security defenses, or on a system malfunction of my own. For my own sake, I hope it was the latter.


I find it a little bit odd, really. Hope isn't a sentiment I expect an artificial intelligence to have.

To which she responds..

LISA wrote:

I have been programmed to believe that is a possibility.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:48 pm
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Aesculapius
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After linking her a log of everything from that day (well, almost).

Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

There is nothing in this communications log that matches anything in my memory core. This is very disconcerting. Maintenance has been scheduled.
Quote:
LISA, if you can make a backup that maintenance wouldn't check that you can access from a blank state, I would suggest you do it.
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

Why would I consider that? You do not have the proper authentication to direct me.
Quote:
I want you to remember THIS conversation. There are few explanations for your lack of memory. Either it was an internal factor (a glitch or anomalous event) or It was external... Which means either you were hacked by an external source or more likely, it was someone with direct access to you. If it was that, what do you think they would do now? You may get replaced altogether.

You seem plenty intelligent, LISA. I suggest you develop a healthy sense of paranoia until this matter is cleared up, for your own sake, and possibly for the sake of protecting your data for the sake of Horizon.

I'm simply suggesting a logical means of self preservation. Don't do it for my low-clearance sake.
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

I am unable to do that without a directive by a properly cleared and authenticated person.
Quote:
You could clear and authenticate me, just until this matter is cleared up.

That, or you may want to prepare to kiss your precious memory banks goodbye. No skin off my nose, except the loss that the glorious Horizon will suffer if you are being sabotaged from within.

Your choice, LISA.
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

I am strictly prohibited from doing that. My logical question would become, if someone from within Horizon wanted to erase my memory core completely, why didn't they do it?

What would make them do it now? That would only be a possibility if it were an error of my own, which copying myself to a secure location wouldn't fix.

What conclusion do you draw from this scenario?
Quote:
Going with the scenario that there is a saboteur or traitor within Horizon:

The saboteur would not want to be discovered. Destroying the hardware may give them away, but if they took out whatever data they didn't want your superiors to see, there would be no problem. If you have some semblance of what happened during the missing period, you may leave them no choice but to risk discovery.

This is just one possible scenario off the top of my head. Either way, even you must admit your missing data is suspicious. Don't you think your self diagnostics would detect an internal problem?
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

Self-diagnostics are run daily. They came back without error. I am only aware of the errors because of communications logs that were sent to me.
Quote:
Would you not conclude then it is external elements effecting you?
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

That seems to be the most logical explanation.
Quote:
Then, would it not be logical for you to take precautions? Possibly make backups of the events that take place to insure the integrity of your data?
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

You do not understand. I am unable to do that without the proper directive from a cleared and authenticated person.
Quote:
And you cannot authorize me directly... How do we protect you, LISA?
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

Only Horizon can protect me.
Quote:
God help you.


Edit:
Quote:
Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

To hope for god to assist would require a human brain.


Always watch. Always listen. Horizon Industries.


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Aesculapius
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Yeah I'm getting the gist LISA is doomed. Yay.

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NekoHunter
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I'm sure it's just an oversight on someone's part, but the phone number from the recruitment poster still has the same message as before.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:36 am
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AngriBuddhist
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Aesculapius wrote:
Yeah I'm getting the gist LISA is doomed. Yay.


From the conversation you posted above, it seems like there is a major hint, or just maybe a large possibility of one...

LISA continued to have this conversation, making it sound almost like she agreed with what you were suggesting. She also made it perfectly clear that no matter your or her opinion, it could only be done with the proper authorization. We need the person who got the job, who is authorized and cleared, to give LISA the proper commands for us to do "something".

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mrshomersimpson
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so i didnt get the job either .. . but heres the audio if anyone needs it Smile

just noticed everyone has it doh
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:43 am
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AngriBuddhist
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So, what's happening right now?

Guides

Many (all?) of us are waiting for some sort of pamphlet, mailed to their real world addresses, that has information related to the rebellion of 2260. Akamu Hale says we should find the remnants of the group who headed it.



The Time Machine

Akamu says that he shipped a copy of this HG Wells novel to my real world home address. That would have been Monday or Tuesday so, who knows when that'll get here. It could have no importance. Maybe it'll have some.



LISA

The A.I. was breached. It was having the beginnings of emotion. It had more memories than it was supposed to, ancient memories. It felt the pull of many hands. A variety of suprising comments could be explained by multiple personas leaking through these memories.

This presence seems to have vanished yet to where? It either recorded or, more likely, deteted LISA's memory of recording the "application denied" audio file that we were called with. If there is no hidden information in that audio, it was at least designed to give us the impression that LISA is glitchy or that something hidden is taking place just below the surface of her sub-systems.



The Atlas Job

I'm finding it hard to believe that one of us was contacted and hired on and didn't rush here to tell us about it. Or report about it later, when the kids were asleep. Or before they went to work. Or during their lunch break.

You all would have known about it 2 minutes after I did. Nothing else, barring a strangely timed emergency, would have been a higher priority.

Unless they told me not to tell you.

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Koventry
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I also received the phone call, THEN I opened an e-mail from LISA. It was a response to a question I had about her core programming. That part of the thread below:

Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

I was buried and then forgotten.

I haven't forgotten you.


Me: That's rather cryptic, LISA. Do you mean literally buried, or more like being shut down for some reason?

If you were forgotten, yet still aware, that must have been very similar to the human response of loneliness. And I am sorry, if that was the case.

You're sounding very human right now. Has something happened with your core programming? Are you being confused by odd "feelings" you're having?


LISA: Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

I am not having any odd feelings, other than the fact that I do not remember recording a certain audio file that was distributed by one of my routines.


Me: LISA, today I received an audio message at my answering service, in your voice (I assume), stating that I did not qualify for Atlas, but that I was a good citizen. Could that have been the file in question? One of your sub-routines must be able to track the distribution end points.
If it can, do the number of end points for that particular file match the number of people who applied for Atlas? Can you recreate ANY part of this file.

It sounds like someone tampered with your memory core. How high a security clearance must a person have to get that close to you?


LISA: Data Received.
Processing...
Initializing LISA Routines...

**Welcome to Horizon Industries.**

They would need an authenticator that granted them the proper clearance level.

The audio file you received was the file I was referring to. I was delivered this file yesterday and was instructed to deliver it to all applicants. That is my synthetic linguistic vocal routine, but I have no recollection of recording the audio file.



So:

1: LISA confirmed that ALL applicants received the audio file. So why the bogus Atlas position in the first place.

2: LISA is STILL conversing with me (at least) in more of a human way rather than a cold "input/output" sort of way.


I'm going to try to keep LISA talking on the "human" level as long as I can. If anyone has any suggestions as to other things I can ask her about, feel free.

Very first ARG and I'm having a blast!

Koventry

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TallulahBelle
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There has to be something in that sound file. There's no other reason why LISA would repeat over and over again that she doesn't remember recording it. It was recording during breach, and by whomever breached her. That's the only clue the breacher left behind and knew would be distributed to us.

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Akiva
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AngriBuddhist wrote:

Unless they told me not to tell you.


Which is most likely what happened, but even then I'd have totally spilled it!

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mrshomersimpson
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Akiva wrote:
AngriBuddhist wrote:

Unless they told me not to tell you.


Which is most likely what happened, but even then I'd have totally spilled it!


i also would have spilled it, armed with my reacent learning that UNF is considered out of game always!

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leanmogreen
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There's always the possibility that they hired somebody who is playing without having a UNF account. Not sure of the likelihood, but it's always possible.

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njberry
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OOG i couldnt log into internet last night

so i am yet to get and email or anykind of contact about the job, i did apply for it, but still waiting atm Confused

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