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RandomH-bomb
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Lumine wrote:
RandomH-bomb wrote:
This month's issue of Gameinformer had a small article about little-known horror games, and one of the games included was Slender.

They even included a little history about the character, saying "Born from a fake paranormal image shared in the Something Awful forums, the Slender Man meme has exploded in popularity. Since 2009, it has spread through the 4chan boards, served as the subject of several DeviantArt fan illustrations, and even inspired the creation of the Endermen in Minecraft."

Sadly, they didn't even acknowledge Marble Hornets or any of the other YouTube series. So I emailed them explaining that they failed to mention some of the most popular and influential pieces of Slender Man related content on the web. Probably won't get noticed, but hey, if they choose to publish that email in the next issue, then the words 'Marble Hornets' will be imprinted in reader's minds, and maybe we'll get a few new fans out of it.

GameInformer has talked about Slenderman before, so the exclusion of the major content is disgusting.

Also: How is Slender not well known? It has over a million views on youtube and everyone won't fucking stop talking about it at my school. Its so bad I have noobs trying to explain slendy to me.


Well, they also included Amnesia on that list, so maybe they just couldn't think of that many obscure horror games. :p

I don't think anyone at Gameinformer watches MH. Maybe I can change that...

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Gimme20dollaz
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Well, Parsec, you don't have to worry about that guy who made Slender: Source anymore. It's officially been renamed The Operator.

Thought you ought to know.

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TheFallenenvoy
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Gimme20dollaz wrote:
Well, Parsec, you don't have to worry about that guy who made Slender: Source anymore. It's officially been renamed The Operator.

Thought you ought to know.


I wonder how happy the MH guys are going to be about this :/
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Frankly, that's bullshit. Slender Man is fair game - that's a collective concept that the internet owns rather than any single person. But The Operator is very much the creation of Troy, Joseph and Tim - it's wrong to use their creation for personal gain. I had little respect of the creators of Slender: Source when they adamantly maintained that it was in no way related to Slender and was their own thing well before Parsec created Slender. I have even less respect for them now, and can clearly see that they're hoping to ride this fad to some kind of "success".

I've removed my support for the Greenlight and really hope that it does not receive Valve's blessing.
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Stravaganti456
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Honestly...

I wish I could care about this whole thing between the original creator and Slender Source, I really don't.

I am just a gamer who wants to be entertained. The game looks entertaining enough and its F2P so I thumbs up'd the greenlight. I will leave this whole credit controversy between the creators. I just want an entertaining game, I could care less about everything else.

Sorry but I support the game's release to steam. I understand that it seems the change to the Operator is very plagiaristic but I would rather leave that between the creators and MH. Besides, if MH cares they will point it out and if not they won't.

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Xicon wrote:
Frankly, that's bullshit. Slender Man is fair game - that's a collective concept that the internet owns rather than any single person. But The Operator is very much the creation of Troy, Joseph and Tim - it's wrong to use their creation for personal gain. I had little respect of the creators of Slender: Source when they adamantly maintained that it was in no way related to Slender and was their own thing well before Parsec created Slender. I have even less respect for them now, and can clearly see that they're hoping to ride this fad to some kind of "success".

I've removed my support for the Greenlight and really hope that it does not receive Valve's blessing.


To be fair, the Marble Hornets crew did not create The Operator. They took an existing character and slapped a different name on so as to separate themselves from the rest of the mythos. The only thing they created is the name, because the is really no discernible difference between The Slender Man and "The Operator" that stands out more than any other variation on the character that comes with each interpretation.

I'm not saying it's just cool to rename the game The Operator, but it bugs the shit out of me when people act like Marble Hornets take on The Slender Man is so damn different from anyone else's.

And at the end of the day, The Slender Man is a public domain character. Anyone who adds to the mythos contributes to that collective ownership in a sense.

By the way, the Crysis 2 mod The Legend seems like it could be an interesting new game, and it's on Greenlight as well. http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-legend/

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JustJim wrote:


By the way, the Crysis 2 mod The Legend seems like it could be an interesting new game, and it's on Greenlight as well. http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-legend/

From the trailer, it looks like an HD version of slender, but from the concept, it sounds like a video idea I had earlier. Guns against an invincible being.

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Stravaganti456
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JustJim wrote:

By the way, the Crysis 2 mod The Legend seems like it could be an interesting new game, and it's on Greenlight as well. http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-legend/

It looks good enough but I hope they have a good graphic look to the antagonist rather than 2d standing scarecrow look.

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JustJim wrote:
Xicon wrote:
Frankly, that's bullshit. Slender Man is fair game - that's a collective concept that the internet owns rather than any single person. But The Operator is very much the creation of Troy, Joseph and Tim - it's wrong to use their creation for personal gain. I had little respect of the creators of Slender: Source when they adamantly maintained that it was in no way related to Slender and was their own thing well before Parsec created Slender. I have even less respect for them now, and can clearly see that they're hoping to ride this fad to some kind of "success".

I've removed my support for the Greenlight and really hope that it does not receive Valve's blessing.


To be fair, the Marble Hornets crew did not create The Operator. They took an existing character and slapped a different name on so as to separate themselves from the rest of the mythos. The only thing they created is the name, because the is really no discernible difference between The Slender Man and "The Operator" that stands out more than any other variation on the character that comes with each interpretation.

I'm not saying it's just cool to rename the game The Operator, but it bugs the shit out of me when people act like Marble Hornets take on The Slender Man is so damn different from anyone else's.

And at the end of the day, The Slender Man is a public domain character. Anyone who adds to the mythos contributes to that collective ownership in a sense.

By the way, the Crysis 2 mod The Legend seems like it could be an interesting new game, and it's on Greenlight as well. http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-legend/


The Operator is a character they created as much as Jay, Tim, or Alex. Just because he bears similarities to Slender Man doesn't make him anything else - he's their character in their story. Using the name to generate false brand parity is detestable, especially since their game will have nothing to do with the Operator as a character.

And in many ways, they did create him. Victor Surge may have created a few photographs and coined the term "Slender Man", but the mythos they created for him - kidnapping children and stringing them up from trees, some affinity for fire - is markedly different from the myth of the Operator - stalking a filmmaker and his friends with a strange interaction with cameras and appearing to induce madness. These are familiar tropes, but Marble Hornets was undeniably the first to have employed them.

So yes, their take is different from anyone else's take on him - since anyone else's take that is remotely similar is riffing on the tropes established BY Marble Hornets.
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The changed the name again.

It is now called "Faceless"

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I was just sent a...rather interesting video that was clearly inspired by the game. It's both hilarious, and kind of scary, at least for me. Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIQy-cL4DpU&feature=share

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xemnasvii
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Stravaganti456 wrote:
The changed the name again.

It is now called "Faceless"

So they're a bunch of try hards too? Nice. But we actually should leave them alone, since they obviously read this thread.

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TheFallenenvoy
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well if they read this thread...why dont they follow my advice and NOT MAKE A GAME.

please...just no more damage, please.
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm kind of glad that The Slender Man is getting such a newfound popularity. Even though some don't care to learn where it came from. I'd love to see in a year or two The Slender Man become fully ingrained within our societal horror lexicon as a tried and true urban legend and it's not widely known where he came from. And yeah, not every adaptation will be revolutionary or even worth our time, but inevitably some will. And yeah, so Victor Surge, Trosephim, Nimbus, and the EMH guys might not get the credit. But this is the internet, and the information will always be available for those who wish to know.

But there is nothing wrong with being scared by something and enjoying it without doing the research as to where it came from. Do you know the creator of The Boogeyman? Did your dad sit you down and say "Well, you see, the character was created when..." or did he just tell you the story?

I can understand and sympathize with the notion of putting on your hipster glasses and saying "I loved Slendy before he was cool." Because it is a special subject to a lot of us. Hell, it's special to me too. I love the fact that I've been a part of this community for a while and watched new series come and go, and watch the mythos evolve. But this can still be special to us while also attracting a large new audience who seek to enjoy The Slender Man in the medium of their choice.

I'd personally rather see all of this new content come out (good and bad) including all of these new games and the two indie movies and see where the mythos goes from there than watch EMH, MH, and TT end and the mythos slowly crumples and dies. And perhaps it's not that binary of a matter, but still.

I'm in the early creative stages of a series myself with a partner who is relatively uninitiated to the mythos at large, and I think it's a tremendous opportunity to put a spin on things. I'm not saying Tall, Dark, and Faceless is going to have a mustache and Kruger gloves, but there will certainly be some dancing around familiar tropes and altogether avoiding others. And there's no time like the present because there are new people getting seriously into The Slender Man.Even if for every 100 people that play Slender, or watch PewDiePie's LP, only 10 people look further into the mythos at large, that's still a growing audience and a growing fanbase.

I'm not sure if this even belongs in this thread, and I'll probably end up putting on my tumblr too, but I had to get that off of my chest. Sometimes lately this place has reminded me of /v/ talking about "filthy casuals."

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