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I'm still laughing at the fact that people believe that TTA is Brian or Seth-- they're dead. Dead people don't carry around cameras and make vaguely threatening video responses. It's either Jessica, Alex or Jay.
There's nothing supporting that they are dead in any way shape or form. Making assumptions like that is just folly. As is assuming that we have already met the character that is TTA


I never said that we've met ToTheArk. But Brian's corpse being dragged away in Entry 51 and Seth's screams of ungodly horror in season one say to me that they're both dead. As dead as door nails, or doorknockers, or even door handles.

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Serum wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Serum wrote:
I'm still laughing at the fact that people believe that TTA is Brian or Seth-- they're dead. Dead people don't carry around cameras and make vaguely threatening video responses. It's either Jessica, Alex or Jay.
There's nothing supporting that they are dead in any way shape or form. Making assumptions like that is just folly. As is assuming that we have already met the character that is TTA


I never said that we've met ToTheArk. But Brian's corpse being dragged away in Entry 51 and Seth's screams of ungodly horror in season one say to me that they're both dead. As dead as door nails, or doorknockers, or even door handles.


Huh. Tim must be dead too. He's walking around pretty good for a dead guy.

Also when the fuck did Seth scream in any kind of "ungodly horror"? What the fuck series are you watching?
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 		Nobody in Marble Hornets has been proven dead, with the exception of the bearded man that Alex killed in the tunnel at Rosswood Park in Entry #49. In Entry #22, there is no indication that Seth died. Yes, something seemed to have happened to him, due to the fact that he falls down and the camera glitches out. But there was no evidence shown that he died. Brian's case has a bit of evidence, but not enough to be confirmed. Alex drags his body away, but none of us know whether he was actually killed, or just in an unconscious state. The only reason the man in the tunnel was confirmed dead is because J tells us that Alex smashed his head in with a rock FOUR separate times, which obviously indicates that he died. There's also evidence in Entry #29, in which the bloody white T-shirt may have been his. Alex seemed to have pulled the same trick on Tim in Entry #56, but Tim apparently woke up later due to the events on Entry #57. So, how do we know this didn't happen with Seth/Brian too?

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 		Pfft, everyone knows that Sarah is Totheark anyway.



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 		I don't really know why one would think that Seth and Brian are dead but Jessica isn't; it seems to me that whatever happened to all three of them was "that thing the Operator does to his victims that we know nothing about." Amy too, for that matter, and perhaps "Bruce." Even Tim inexplicably survived being beaten with rebar.

And while we're on the subject of dead characters, who says that dead is dead in Marble Hornets? I could imagine an Operator who "feeds" on the deaths of his victims, then resurrects them, causing them to lose their memories and continue being stalked until they die over and over again. I'm not saying that that's my working theory, just that MH is a supernatural series, and we know so very little about what's really going on. It doesn't make sense to me to make these sorts of grand declarations about what's in play and what isn't. Anything can happen at this point.

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 		TTA is Luke.

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Serum wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
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I'm still laughing at the fact that people believe that TTA is Brian or Seth-- they're dead. Dead people don't carry around cameras and make vaguely threatening video responses. It's either Jessica, Alex or Jay.
There's nothing supporting that they are dead in any way shape or form. Making assumptions like that is just folly. As is assuming that we have already met the character that is TTA


I never said that we've met ToTheArk. But Brian's corpse being dragged away in Entry 51 and Seth's screams of ungodly horror in season one say to me that they're both dead. As dead as door nails, or doorknockers, or even door handles.


Lol. Jessica's screams of horror in 52 and disappearance apparently don't count. And the fact that both Jay or Alex being TTA would be impossible and incredibly stupid.

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 		I can't remember which TTA video it is, but the one where it says that the following footage was filmed by Alex Kralie always confused me. I don't think he is TTA or anything, but how did TTA get that tape, why did he record that, and what does it mean? That one always confused me

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Animal wrote:
I can't remember which TTA video it is, but the one where it says that the following footage was filmed by Alex Kralie always confused me. I don't think he is TTA or anything, but how did TTA get that tape, why did he record that, and what does it mean? That one always confused me


I think the main reason it said This footage is raw excerpts from ALex Kralie was just so TTA could have a cryptic way of getting his message across that he wants his audience to TALK. It may or may not be footage Alex actually recorded.

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Animal wrote:
I can't remember which TTA video it is, but the one where it says that the following footage was filmed by Alex Kralie always confused me. I don't think he is TTA or anything, but how did TTA get that tape, why did he record that, and what does it mean? That one always confused me


It's just TTA mocking Jay. It's pretty much a parody of "Introduction". It's not actual footage from Alex

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Animal wrote:
I can't remember which TTA video it is, but the one where it says that the following footage was filmed by Alex Kralie always confused me. I don't think he is TTA or anything, but how did TTA get that tape, why did he record that, and what does it mean? That one always confused me

Got a little ninja'd, but I don't want to bail on the post, so here you go. I think you mean "Warning." In that video, TTA's opening caption is handwritten, and it says, "The following are raw footage excerpts from ALex [sic] Kralie." That's almost a direct quote of Jay's first video, "Introduction," the first caption of which said, "The following clips are raw footage excerpts from Alex Kralie [emphasis mine]." After the caption in "Warning," the rest of the video is stop motion animation, much of it featuring Masky.

Given the similarity to "Introduction," I'm pretty sure that "Warning" is parody, as the above replies said. TTA is mocking Jay's ineptitude; the very next (assumed) TTA video is "Entry ######," where TTA seems fed up with Jay's lack of progress. None of the footage in "Warning" is really from Alex.

That said, there are a few occasions, like "Advocate," where the TTA footage appears to have been from the same footage Jay got from Alex (not necessarily from the exact clips shown in the entries). How TTA got that footage is an open question. The two theories I like best are (a) a possible physical theft, like the break-in in 61; something that could have happened at any time going all the way back to the original MH shoot; and (b) a digital theft; a hack (because TTA may be hacking Jay's accounts, at least), where the clips are stolen from what Jay put on his hard drive to edit.

Just to bring it back to the thread topic, note that, similarly, footage of Tim awakening in 62 is seen briefly in the tree composite shot in "Isolation."

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Did anyone notice that when the eye spazzes out it turns into the Maskey's Mask, such as at the right moment at 0:28?

And i really think it's not the same eye, they show like 3 different ones, and when the text changed to ''WHEREISSHE'' you can see there is a different type of eye there, my theory is that eye belongs to the person that TTA is refering...

Just a theory, and another one. TTA says ''SEE YOU SOON'' at the end. But why? They have seen eachother many times, and i'm sorry but i don't think that's Hoody at the end, for some odd reason, it doesn't seem like him.

PS: The eye gave me a terrible TribeTwelve vibe

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Cougar Draven wrote:
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paladin181 wrote:
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I'm still laughing at the fact that people believe that TTA is Brian or Seth-- they're dead. Dead people don't carry around cameras and make vaguely threatening video responses. It's either Jessica, Alex or Jay.
There's nothing supporting that they are dead in any way shape or form. Making assumptions like that is just folly. As is assuming that we have already met the character that is TTA


I never said that we've met ToTheArk. But Brian's corpse being dragged away in Entry 51 and Seth's screams of ungodly horror in season one say to me that they're both dead. As dead as door nails, or doorknockers, or even door handles.


Huh. Tim must be dead too. He's walking around pretty good for a dead guy.

Also when the fuck did Seth scream in any kind of "ungodly horror"? What the fuck series are you watching?


Wow that was an unnecessarily violent post... Both Brian and Seth may be dead, it could go either way. For seth screaming he's likely referring to the basement scene, which is shortly followed by the "everyone is gone" monologue by Alex. Brian is seen being dragged away and hidden, Alex didn't spend any extra time with Tim to drag him anywhere, we never see Brian breathing, or hear him coughing after his incident. Personally I think Seth is dead, Brian is alive, but I don't know. Seriously, no reason to be a dick about something that is actually debatable.

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KTsteve wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Serum wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Serum wrote:
I'm still laughing at the fact that people believe that TTA is Brian or Seth-- they're dead. Dead people don't carry around cameras and make vaguely threatening video responses. It's either Jessica, Alex or Jay.
There's nothing supporting that they are dead in any way shape or form. Making assumptions like that is just folly. As is assuming that we have already met the character that is TTA


I never said that we've met ToTheArk. But Brian's corpse being dragged away in Entry 51 and Seth's screams of ungodly horror in season one say to me that they're both dead. As dead as door nails, or doorknockers, or even door handles.


Huh. Tim must be dead too. He's walking around pretty good for a dead guy.

Also when the fuck did Seth scream in any kind of "ungodly horror"? What the fuck series are you watching?


Wow that was an unnecessarily violent post... Both Brian and Seth may be dead, it could go either way. For seth screaming he's likely referring to the basement scene, which is shortly followed by the "everyone is gone" monologue by Alex. Brian is seen being dragged away and hidden, Alex didn't spend any extra time with Tim to drag him anywhere, we never see Brian breathing, or hear him coughing after his incident. Personally I think Seth is dead, Brian is alive, but I don't know. Seriously, no reason to be a dick about something that is actually debatable.


No reason to be a dick? You don't know who I am. I don't need a reason. Besides, on my scale? That wasn't dickish.

It's excessively unlikely that Brian is dead, to such a level that even calling it "debatable" is laughably ridiculous. Seth wasn't screaming in the basement scene. I just went back to confirm this, it simply wasn't there.

I'm going to go ahead and apply Occam's Razor to this and suggest that the only person who ever appeared on camera in Marble Hornets who is dead is the guy Alex killed with a rock. Especially because in that instance the Operator showed up and made the body vanish. Why the hell wouldn't that have happened if Brian was dead? (As for Seth, it's still possible but unlikely, and I'm not even considering it at this juncture because it doesn't really matter.)
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Cougar Draven wrote:
KTsteve wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Serum wrote:
paladin181 wrote:
Serum wrote:
I'm still laughing at the fact that people believe that TTA is Brian or Seth-- they're dead. Dead people don't carry around cameras and make vaguely threatening video responses. It's either Jessica, Alex or Jay.
There's nothing supporting that they are dead in any way shape or form. Making assumptions like that is just folly. As is assuming that we have already met the character that is TTA


I never said that we've met ToTheArk. But Brian's corpse being dragged away in Entry 51 and Seth's screams of ungodly horror in season one say to me that they're both dead. As dead as door nails, or doorknockers, or even door handles.


Huh. Tim must be dead too. He's walking around pretty good for a dead guy.

Also when the fuck did Seth scream in any kind of "ungodly horror"? What the fuck series are you watching?


Wow that was an unnecessarily violent post... Both Brian and Seth may be dead, it could go either way. For seth screaming he's likely referring to the basement scene, which is shortly followed by the "everyone is gone" monologue by Alex. Brian is seen being dragged away and hidden, Alex didn't spend any extra time with Tim to drag him anywhere, we never see Brian breathing, or hear him coughing after his incident. Personally I think Seth is dead, Brian is alive, but I don't know. Seriously, no reason to be a dick about something that is actually debatable.


No reason to be a dick? You don't know who I am. I don't need a reason. Besides, on my scale? That wasn't dickish.

It's excessively unlikely that Brian is dead, to such a level that even calling it "debatable" is laughably ridiculous. Seth wasn't screaming in the basement scene. I just went back to confirm this, it simply wasn't there.

I'm going to go ahead and apply Occam's Razor to this and suggest that the only person who ever appeared on camera in Marble Hornets who is dead is the guy Alex killed with a rock. Especially because in that instance the Operator showed up and made the body vanish. Why the hell wouldn't that have happened if Brian was dead? (As for Seth, it's still possible but unlikely, and I'm not even considering it at this juncture because it doesn't really matter.)

I agree.
We have no evidence suggesting that Brian, Seth, Jessica, Amy, or even Sarah are dead, and speculation until proof at this point is not getting us anywhere or anything except theories and opinions.
So, until we have definitive proof about what happened to them, the jury is still out.

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