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Lumine
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 		People are complaining that the slenderverse doesn't make sense yet the Chtulu mythos contradicts itself in every fucking way, shape and form.
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And now I direct you all to the blogverse's solution to the tonal issues with crossovers. You're welcome. http://takethemyth.blogspot.com/2011/08/more-travel-and-page-theory.html


Ow. My... brains.

I have a theory: how about Slendy adapts to whoever he's hunting and/or manipulating?

So if someone's going to react in the desired way to being creepily intimidated over a period of weeks, he'll do that; but if they're not the type to rise to it, he'll just leap right in and teabag them in their sleep or whatever.
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Fotzepolitic wrote:
evanx275h wrote:
HunterEris wrote:
This is why I hate crossovers and why they put me off a series.

It's why I set out to create my own universe with a no-crossover rule.


See, I never understood that, it makes no sense.

You don't have to watch the series that's adjoined with another just because they're crossing over. You could stick with your one series, which usually briefly (at LEAST) explains that the person they've crossed over with has "shared similar experiences". A lot of people really enjoy finding new series through crossovers, myself included.

I just don't get what there is to complain about, just stick with your own series and deal with the fact that people like working together to expand a universe.


I think it can work if they don't make a big deal about it being a crossover and just get on with it. In an ideal world, Randolph from UndulatingCybrox's crossover with the HiddenVagenda crew would be worth filming even if he's just some guy you've never heard of. You'd get enough of a sense of who he is from watching it that you don't end up watching all of UndulatingCybrox just to establish that no, there wasn't really any build up to this cross over.

(By the way you guys should all check out this new Slendervlog called UndulatingCybrox. It's recorded on Betamax and buried under Stonehenge... OR IS IT?)


Again, it should be able to be made as big a deal as it wants to; It can be very specifically called a crossover, and still (if I'm not mistaken because, you know, free will) you don't have to watch the other half of the series. I don't see why people bitch about something that is literally as easy as "don't like it, don't watch it". I'm not out to change anyone's mind, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from by making such a big deal out of something that you can avoid if you want to.

On that note, there are people that like the crossovers, too. People that enjoy the fact that two series that (perhaps) they've seen both of are coming together and, at that (even if they had only seen one), provides a gateway for learning about newer, smaller Slenderseries.

It's a fandom, so if you're a big enough fan of the mythos, enjoy your series and (maybe, if you're into it) crossovers, and if not, enjoy Marble Hornets and some of the other bigger series and move along.

I still don't get what all the fuss is about. Call me crazy.
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 		My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys

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Baronness wrote:
My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys


I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

This is not an excuse.
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TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys


I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

This is not an excuse.


It's not a reason, but it is an excuse.
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TheFallenenvoy wrote:
I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.


OH! ONE OF THEM WAS ME! Very Happy
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TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys


I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

This is not an excuse.


Holy crap. BUT I'M POOR!

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TheFallenenvoy
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Baronness wrote:
TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys


I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

This is not an excuse.


Holy crap. BUT I'M POOR!


still not an excuse. I'm 15 and penniless Razz
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TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys


I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

This is not an excuse.


Holy crap. BUT I'M POOR!


still not an excuse. I'm 15 and penniless Razz


Butbutbut how'd you do it, then?

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TheFallenenvoy
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Baronness wrote:
TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Baronness wrote:
My series won't get to be involved in any crossovers because I live in The State Where No One Else Lives.

:'[ my creys


I've crossed over with three series' from the other side of the Atlantic ocean.

This is not an excuse.


Holy crap. BUT I'M POOR!


still not an excuse. I'm 15 and penniless Razz


Butbutbut how'd you do it, then?


tinychats, recreating costumes, phonecalls (trust me. I did that for 5zer0 and it actually turned out ok) and exchanging video responses. stuff like that Very Happy
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tinychats, recreating costumes, phonecalls (trust me. I did that for 5zer0 and it actually turned out ok) and exchanging video responses. stuff like that Very Happy


Oh-hoooo. I see. Clever.

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Lithp
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Lumine wrote:
People are complaining that the slenderverse doesn't make sense yet the Chtulu mythos contradicts itself in every fucking way, shape and form.


I'm honestly not a big fan of the Cthulhu Mythos. I read Call of Cthulhu, & it was okay, but...you know, even that is overhyped to all fuck. Cthuhlu is defeated by a fucking boat.

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I don't see why people bitch about something that is literally as easy as "don't like it, don't watch it".


But you do like it. You've followed it for so long, you are attached to the characters, & you want to know what happens to them. But you don't want to be frustrated by a plot that seems to be continually degrading. The conflict between those contradictory goals causes frustration, & it would be so much fucking easier if the story just went back to the way it was.

I think it's actually pretty easy to understand.

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Lithp wrote:
Lumine wrote:
People are complaining that the slenderverse doesn't make sense yet the Chtulu mythos contradicts itself in every fucking way, shape and form.


I'm honestly not a big fan of the Cthulhu Mythos. I read Call of Cthulhu, & it was okay, but...you know, even that is overhyped to all fuck. Cthuhlu is defeated by a fucking boat.

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I don't see why people bitch about something that is literally as easy as "don't like it, don't watch it".


But you do like it. You've followed it for so long, you are attached to the characters, & you want to know what happens to them. But you don't want to be frustrated by a plot that seems to be continually degrading. The conflict between those contradictory goals causes frustration, & it would be so much fucking easier if the story just went back to the way it was.

I think it's actually pretty easy to understand.


Crossovers definitely do not degrade a plot. EMH and TT's crossover has proven just that; TribeTwelve and EMH are still fantastic series with awesome plot advancements. Same applies for many series, mine included (I just finished my third crossover, and my fourth starts this/next week [this season is all crossovers for me, it's going great]).

When I say "don't like it, don't watch it", I don't mean the series, I mean the crossovers. If you don't like the idea of crossovers, just watch the one-sided half of the series you normally watch and continue on as if there was no other side. That's what i mean. If you don't want to be bothered with so many plots (which I actually understand; as much as I love crossovers, I tend to do this), skip the second side if either, A, the adjoining series is too long, or B, if the plot isn't enticing enough. But that applies to just watching a series in general, too. It's no reason to hate crossovers, because some (TT/EMH, TT/DH, MDJ/Osiris, etc.) are absolutely fantastic.

It's just my opinion anyways. Last I checked, someone else not liking something I like doesn't mean that, for one, that thing is going away, or for two, I should stop liking it. So now we all move on in terms of opinions and I get back to the
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But you do like it. You've followed it for so long, you are attached to the characters, & you want to know what happens to them. But you don't want to be frustrated by a plot that seems to be continually degrading. The conflict between those contradictory goals causes frustration, & it would be so much fucking easier if the story just went back to the way it was.

I think it's actually pretty easy to understand.


I definitely understand that, although I'm personally in favour of crossovers.

Having watched a fair number of video series (although admittedly, not so many blogs), most of the crossovers I've seen have been between two series that seem as though they could fit together. The biggest leap is probably when TJAProjects, and later, TribeTwelve, had their brief crossovers with EMH, but there's nothing directly contradictory there. Sure, if you link series to series to series, it may start to seem like there are issues, but I don't really think it's an issue unless two vastly different series (in both story and tone) start referencing each other. Like, say, if APCollection crossed over with MLAndersen. That sort of thing would probably be pretty jarring.

That really is the beauty of using Slender Man as the central pillar of the mythos, almost nothing can be truly contradictory with such an undefined cosmic power involved.

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