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Tharol
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 		Keeping on they most like middle October for video.

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sp103
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 		I agree the last few Tribe Twelve videos have been outright fantastic. I'm willing to give MH a pass a bit because without MH there is no Tribe Twelve. MH does need to step it up a bit with the plot development. I don't need to find out who Hoody is then be shown 3 other characters we don't know etc.. Closing one door and opening 3 is far too Soap Opera style.

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jackofnotrades
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 		Has anyone else become "adjusted" to the idea of the operator/slenderman? Two years ago when I found out about it and watched season 1, there was literally about a month where I had trouble sleeping, kept all lights on in my apartment at all times, and my blinds drawn from dusk til dawn every night. I would get freaked out in my cubicle at work when I had to work late and was by myself, and misunderstood a girl at my church one day (I thought she said "a guy is following you" during a particularly intense thunderstorm) and literally ran to my car and drove away.

Now, I'm watching mainly for story and entertainment value. I can watch new entries with the lights out, in the middle of the night, and then walk my dog late at night and am not even phased. I don't think that the older entires were inherently scarier, they just seem more normal now.

It fuels my silent rage that I'm not so mentally and emotionally unstable due to pure terror.

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Toadbert
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 		I felt that way the whole time, really. My main appeal of MH is the atmosphere and the story.

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ChaosDoctor07
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jackofnotrades wrote:
Has anyone else become "adjusted" to the idea of the operator/slenderman? Two years ago when I found out about it and watched season 1, there was literally about a month where I had trouble sleeping, kept all lights on in my apartment at all times, and my blinds drawn from dusk til dawn every night. I would get freaked out in my cubicle at work when I had to work late and was by myself, and misunderstood a girl at my church one day (I thought she said "a guy is following you" during a particularly intense thunderstorm) and literally ran to my car and drove away.

Now, I'm watching mainly for story and entertainment value. I can watch new entries with the lights out, in the middle of the night, and then walk my dog late at night and am not even phased. I don't think that the older entires were inherently scarier, they just seem more normal now.

It fuels my silent rage that I'm not so mentally and emotionally unstable due to pure terror.


I totally agree with this sentiment. The profound terror and paranoia that was particularly dominant in the first month after discovering Marble Hornets around the same time as you did has certainly since then been replaced by, as you said, mainly watching for story/entertainment. That isn't to say there haven't been terrifying entries, both here and in other series; rather, I've just grown accustomed/used to it.

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pravado
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 		Agreed. i had my second (and final) panic attack in life after watching all of season 1 and then going into my dark kitchen to get some food. i felt like masky was in the room with me along with the operator and my hand froze on the fridge door and i locked up

now i look at the operator and think "he's not scary at all he doesn't move and he doesn't even hurt people he just wipes their memories which is pretty shitty but not that scary"

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 7:07 pm
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pravado wrote:
"he's not scary at all he doesn't move and he doesn't even hurt people he just wipes their memories which is pretty shitty but not that scary"


Or takes them to a dimension of pure chaos and pure evil, as he did with Brian and Seth, Jessica and the others... Liberate tutame ex inferis.


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Lithp
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now i look at the operator and think "he's not scary at all he doesn't move and he doesn't even hurt people he just wipes their memories which is pretty shitty but not that scary"


Yeah, in my opinion, Marble Hornets' biggest failing is that it's actually losing conflict over time.

Yeah, people are missing, but though we assume that's because of The Operator, we don't really know. And sometimes they turn up perfectly unharmed, like Alex & Tim.

Masky & Hoody were supplying the visceral threat for a while, but now we've seen that they currently have no interest in harming Jay...or Tim, for obvious reasons.

It seems like even Slendersickness is getting less harmful.

Hell, I'm half-expecting Alex to show up & reveal that the gun was fake.

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Lithp wrote:

Hell, I'm half-expecting Alex to show up & reveal that the gun was fake.


Or it could have had been filled with blanks.

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Jingleman
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pravado wrote:
now i look at the operator and think "he's not scary at all he doesn't move and he doesn't even hurt people he just wipes their memories which is pretty shitty but not that scary"

Yeah, I think that's the biggest problem with the Operator, and probably the larger Slender Man Mythos, too. It's one thing to keep a healthy bit of mystery around the monster in your story - if you explain too much, you risk killing the horror, especially when you've built a lot of the horror around the characters being unable to comprehend what it is. Problems arise, though, when you preserve the mystery at all costs. At some point, you've got to give the audience a concrete sense of what kind of danger the characters are in. Otherwise, folks will subconsciously downgrade the monster from "enigmatic horror" to "background annoyance."

In most stories, the writer needs to create and build tension. Most of the time, one does that by gradually raising the stakes of the conflict until the climax. The "stakes" are important; it's the writer's measure of what kind of danger there is, what the protagonist has to lose, and how likely he is to lose it. For most successful stories, the writer keeps increasing what the character has at stake.

Take Luke Skywalker's adventure in Star Wars, for example. In the beginning, he just wants to leave the moisture farm. The worst that could happen if he doesn't get his way is another season or two at home while his friends are having all the adventures. By the climax at the end, however, he's all alone, he's racing down the trench of a massive Death Star with most of his wingmates dead, Han's abandoned him, Darth Vader is about to blow him up, and he's got to make the perfect shot right now or else the Death Star is going to blow up all of his friends and the Empire will rule forever. From the beginning until that moment, Luke's stakes are gradually raised as he learns more about the dangers around him. Every time he clears an obstacle it reveals a new threat until the true power and intentions of the Empire are bearing down on him. Raise the stakes. Build the tension.

The trouble with Marble Hornets is that it's been three years, and the stakes are still murky. We're not sure what the Operator can do, or what he wants. Those are hard stakes to raise. When you don't tell us what the danger is, you can't build the tension by telling us that things are getting worse. If you don't build the tension, it will dissipate. The Operator hasn't raised the stakes in a while. Jay hasn't had much to lose since his apartment burned. They came close by putting Tim's life potentially on the line in 61, but that was resolved immediately, and without any real (known) danger ever coming of it. They just need some exposition, and things can get back on track in that department.

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Stanislav
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 		That's the great thing about the new TribeTwelve, it actually shows for the first time in the big three (If I recall correctly) him doing something that makes him evil, or at least scary in a threatening way.

Those bags of guts in EMH were pretty damning though. And MH Alex's supposedly bloodied head. But that was the same entry in which the Operator was at his silliest.

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Lithp
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 		I think it would help if The Operator actually did something violent. Killed a guy. Wounded Tim. Kicked down a door. I don't know, something besides "photobomb" or "try & fail to catch Jay."

It's supposed to be more of a threat this season, but I'm kind of believe-it-when-I-see-it at this point.

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 		Maybe the Operator only exists if we really want him to exist. Like the pixies of Bubble Yum Forest, we really have to believe in him for him to exist. Which Jay has demonstrated in abundance by searching through tapes his friend explicitly asked him to destroy and uploading them and documenting the occurrences on each one with the intent of a true mad man.

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Gold Knight
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 		Is there a new OOG update from Trosephim?

No?

THEN STOP POSTING IN THAT THREAD.

If you need to keep arguing somewhere, then use this thread. Just quit bumping and getting some of our hopes up.

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Gold Knight wrote:
Is there a new OOG update from Trosephim?


I thought it was just 'Troseph," when did we throw Tim into the name?

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