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[Geneaux486]

[Lithp]

Actually, feel free to correct me, but I find that almost all of the Canyouseethewords stuff is basically unimportant, except for the Twitter fights & the last few posts after Habit takes over the thing.

[Jingleman]

[Teedub]

I just think that everyone in the "filler" crowd has incredibly low attention spans.

[pravado]

[Geneaux486]

No entries come to mind when I try to think of filler in Marble Hornets. Entry 60.5 definetely was not filler.

[paladin181]

[Gold Knight]

I don't believe there are any truly filler entries. However, the real problem with season 3 is the low ratio of content to the amount of time we have to wait for that content. I don't think people would mind entries like 60.5 and 63 so much if we were getting one a week like in season 2. While I don't really mind them, I can see why some people would be frustrated.

TribeTwelve is actually a bit better about the content to time ratio. There are horrific gaps in time between videos, but each one is full of content, so people don't mind the wait as much. I realize Trosephim have a whole lot of stuff going in their OOG lives, but they could learn to plan better about how they release if they know they are going to be busy. That way, it won't seem like they're just stringing us along.

[Animal]

[Flyleaf(IntoTheMist)Wolfi]

I consider several entries to be 'filler' (none that I can recall ATM), but that doesn't always mean that it isn't important in some way. While Entry 60.5 wasn't necessary, and the info could have been posted on twitter, it helped that we could listen to an explanation while we looked.

[Serum]

[Jingleman]

This is exactly what I was talking about, folks. Nobody agrees on the definition of "filler" because it's not really a part of the lexicon of literary analysis. It's not the kind of word that you can throw out there and expect everyone to understand exactly what you mean, or that people could look up if need be. So, you have to explain exactly what you're complaining about, anyway, and time is wasted on lots of vitriolic back-and-forth over whether something counts as "filler," when the real issue is about pacing, or bad dialogue, or redundancy, or endless cliffhangers, or what they chose to show rather than caption or tweet, or whatever.

Paladin181's defense of the word "filler" does reveal perhaps the only common thread among those who think it's a useful term: it's all about unmet expectations. People don't want to feel like their time is wasted, but everyone disagrees on what constitutes wasted time. Even pravado mentioned it above. Use of the word "filler" always meets with opposition because people are using it whenever an entry doesn't meet their expectations, but expectations vary so much that the term can mean nearly anything to anyone, and it often means something different to the same person week to week.

So, whether one's expectations are high or low, isn't it better just to express what the disappointment is specifically, rather than wasting time arguing about whether an entry fits into some ill-defined, unhelpful category?

[Geneaux486]

[Jingleman]

[Geneaux486]