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ieisuk
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Joined: 07 Oct 2011 Posts: 179
What's with all crossovers and sudden activity? I know alot of what I have say here has been officially denied by many of the series creators, but you have admit that the amount of crossovers as of late have been suspicious. I'm fine with marble hornets being a fictional series within most of the other series, bring groups together to fight in series, and do that instead of work on the conclusion or events you set up to happen ( I'm looking at you Tribe Twelve and Dark Harvest). By not only adding in trinkets and story elements that physically connect two series together, you make it canon. To use Tribe Twelve again, Noah's actor admitted that he had done work with MLAnderson0 yet noone seemed to notice. So I pose the question for you, if crossovers don't matter and each slenderan series is separate, why mention ones that noone noticed essentially foreshadowing for a culumative end?
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:07 pm
RedSoul78
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Joined: 20 Mar 2011 Posts: 112 Location: Ontario
Most Slender Man series aren't separate. A lot of the creators have established that they occupy a singular universe (or universes, according to some). Only a handful of series like Marble Hornets and, I believe, CaughtNotSleeping have chosen to remain truly separate. As far as so-called "canon" is concerned, it works because the Slender Man's powers are so undefined that true contradictions are almost impossible. One series can say "we willed him into existence" and another can say "he came from another dimension" and it's not a contradiction; one or both could be wrong, or both could technically be right. Who's to say?
From an out of game perspective, the common opinion seems to be that crossovers are fine as long as one doesn't force you to watch the other. You could watch TribeTwelve's crossovers with EMH and Dark Harvest and just accept that "these are other people with similar problems", or you could choose to go watch their series. It would only be a problem if TribeTwelve didn't explain anything about these sudden new characters or their problems, but Noah's interactions with them were still very relevant to the plot.
That said, who knows what's up with the whole TribeTwelve/MLAndersen thing. Maybe once one or both are over we'll all be let in on the supposed crossovers between the two.
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:39 pm
InkBlots
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Oct 2012 Posts: 4
Funny an MLAndersen0 and TribeTwelve crossover was mentioned. I've read before on the Slender Man wiki that it's theorized that
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Patrick is the proxy Mr. Scars of TribeTwelve
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:12 am
lachesis
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Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 225
InkBlots wrote:
Funny an MLAndersen0 and TribeTwelve crossover was mentioned. I've read before on the Slender Man wiki that it's theorized that
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Patrick is the proxy Mr. Scars of TribeTwelve
oooo I really like that idea.
as far as crossovers go, I feel ambivalent toward some of them, I liked the recent tt/dh work, but feel less enthused about the tt/emh one... (actually, why didn't noah realize he met the dh boys before?)
And as far as all the smaller series being crazily interconnected... I really might be the last person in the 'verse who actually feels their immersion pang with sadness.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:54 am
Fotzepolitic
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Joined: 16 Sep 2012 Posts: 227 Location: the government blankets
I guess the problem with crossovers is that, if Vlog A crosses over with Vlog B, and then Vlog B crosses over with Vlog C, A B & C are presumably ALL in the same universe. So then if Vlog D crosses over with Vlog A, Vlogs B and C are in the same universe as Vlog D, even though they never crossed over with each other.
So if you cross over with one of the huge octopus of vlogs that have crossed over with EMH, you're crossing over with every vlog EMH has been with. /tortuousvenerealdiseaseanalogy
This sucks for me because it would actually make a lot of sense logistically for me to cross over with Octarine Night and others - no one would even have to sleep on anyone's floor - but then I'm part of that whole nest of vipers and my vlog is in some small way set in a universe where people can have actual monsters in their actual closets.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:00 am
InkBlots
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Oct 2012 Posts: 4
I've already decided to set mine in its own seperate continuity. I don't really feel like getting into that mess.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:55 pm
Fotzepolitic
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Joined: 16 Sep 2012 Posts: 227 Location: the government blankets
It's a shame, because I quite liked the idea of going to visit a 15 year old monster expert and ripping on him incessantly for not being able to buy his own fags.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:58 pm
TheFallenenvoy
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Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 847
Fotzepolitic wrote:
It's a shame, because I quite liked the idea of going to visit a 15 year old monster expert and ripping on him incessantly for not being able to buy his own fags.
Is this an offer?
Because this is a crossover I'm up for
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:15 pm
Fotzepolitic
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Joined: 16 Sep 2012 Posts: 227 Location: the government blankets
TheFallenenvoy wrote:
Fotzepolitic wrote:
It's a shame, because I quite liked the idea of going to visit a 15 year old monster expert and ripping on him incessantly for not being able to buy his own fags.
Is this an offer?
Because this is a crossover I'm up for
We'll see... we'll see...
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:18 pm
Cougar Draven
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Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Potentially everywhere.
Or you can just adapt the concept of a branching multiverse. But hey, advanced metaphysics is generally too much for people to wrap their heads around.
ETA: Better add my standard "Kyle no." as a precaution.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:37 pm
Fotzepolitic
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Joined: 16 Sep 2012 Posts: 227 Location: the government blankets
Cougar Draven wrote:
Or you can just adapt the concept of a branching multiverse. But hey, advanced metaphysics is generally too much for people to wrap their heads around.
Anthropocentric models of branching universes are fundamentally flawed.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:40 pm
KrisTrauma
Unfettered
Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 492 Location: OK
The way everyone should see it: crossovers are usually more fun for the creators than they are for the audience (well some of the audience, the one that bitches and whines about everything).
I wish I could crossover with someone but:
1. nobody is near me
2.i dug my series into a continuity hole nobody can join me in
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:00 pm
Cougar Draven
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Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Potentially everywhere.
Fotzepolitic wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Or you can just adapt the concept of a branching multiverse. But hey, advanced metaphysics is generally too much for people to wrap their heads around.
Anthropocentric models of branching universes are fundamentally flawed.
They're also fundamentally necessary, via the anthropic principle. In theory an anthropophobic universe can explain everything, as well.
KrisTrauma wrote:
The way everyone should see it: crossovers are usually more fun for the creators than they are for the audience (well some of the audience, the one that bitches and whines about everything).
I wish I could crossover with someone but:
1. nobody is near me
2.i dug my series into a continuity hole nobody can join me in
1. It's a big country.
2. "branching multiverse"
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:21 pm
Fotzepolitic
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Joined: 16 Sep 2012 Posts: 227 Location: the government blankets
Cougar Draven wrote:
Fotzepolitic wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Or you can just adapt the concept of a branching multiverse. But hey, advanced metaphysics is generally too much for people to wrap their heads around.
Anthropocentric models of branching universes are fundamentally flawed.
They're also fundamentally necessary, via the anthropic principle. In theory an anthropophobic universe can explain everything, as well.
Yeah, but that theory is total derpsville.
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:27 pm
Cougar Draven
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Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Potentially everywhere.
Fotzepolitic wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Fotzepolitic wrote:
Cougar Draven wrote:
Or you can just adapt the concept of a branching multiverse. But hey, advanced metaphysics is generally too much for people to wrap their heads around.
Anthropocentric models of branching universes are fundamentally flawed.
They're also fundamentally necessary, via the anthropic principle. In theory an anthropophobic universe can explain everything, as well.
Yeah, but that theory is total derpsville.
Generally the concept of anthropophobia in and of itself is when human beings are strictly necessary for the universe as it is to exist, yeah.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:35 pm
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