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polaris
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 		I sent an e-mail too. Hopefully we hear something.

I'll try to play with the words a bit more tomorrow, but it does seem like something might be missing. Unless they never intended for twenty people to get involved.

Dav.y - Did the e-mail indicate anything specific about Mantle?

Tallulah - I'm very impressed. Wink

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:48 pm
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Dav.y
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 		This is the complete email conversation:
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Mantle VVA <mantle> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM
To: 0xdavyouSPLATgmail.com
A little birdie told me you recently had contact with "onerisen388@gmail.com".
Is this true?
If so you need to contact me ASAP this is a serious security matter.

David Young <0xdavyou> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM
To: Mantle VVA <mantle>
I have indeed!
Serious security matter? How so?

Mantle VVA <mantle> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:34 PM
To: David Young <0xdavyou>
The "risen one" is actually an AI that is under our control. Recently a major spike of activity appeared. We tried
to investigate it but the AI would not lets us into it's logs. It recently began asking us to call it "Fallen God". Tell
me, how much activity have you had with it. And do you have records?

Mantle VVA <mantle> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:36 PM
To: David Young <0xdavyou>
Do not share this information, I suspect there are others. We can't let the AI know that we are onto it. Your name
appeared as part of an encrypted data file we managed to grab before the AI wiped it.

David Young <0xdavyou> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:41 PM
To: Mantle VVA <mantle>
He, or it, has supplied me with a few riddles. Merely fun and games.
Might I inquire as to what the purpose of this AI is? You say it's a serious security matter but from my point of
view I'm just having a bit of fun.

David Young <0xdavyou> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:42 PM
To: Mantle VVA <mantle>
There are others? Other AIs or other people who have had contact?

Mantle VVA <mantle> Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:45 PM
To: David Young <0xdavyou>
Riddles? It's either toying with you or tricking you into doing something. This AI is one of many, however we have
never had a problem like this before.
I'm one member of an agency that is contracted to create AI's. At the moment that's all you need to know. Play
along with the AI for now tell me if something unusual happens.
It appears that it is contacting the outside world which is a major risk for everybody.


I couldn't uncover too many interesting things sadly. My conversation with Mantle was cut short at this point by a gmail chat with risen. I'm still unsure which side to.. side with, more so because apparently I'm the only one who has been given the option.

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draghkar
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 		whats the email address of mantle? that way others can contact him as well..
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Dav.y
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 		...I was sure I'd posted that. Oh well, it's mantle.vvaSPLATgmail.com.

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specterseymour
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 		We really didn't have all the words. In an email from risen:

Quote:
forced, was, i, to, now, wish


Add this to your lists, we should be able to figure it out now.

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Dav.y
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 		So the words now, in no specific order are:
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was x2
forced x2
wish x2
my x2
everything x2
i x2
vengeance x2
mantle x2
and
those
on
and
purgatory
i lost
forsaken
reclaim
who
have
to
now


edited to make the list slightly smaller, all the words we have double now have x2 behind them. Also you'll note that one line has two words, namely "i lost", that's because they were given out together. May be significant, may not be.

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draghkar
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 		is there progress in this one?
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specterseymour
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 		Not that I'm aware of. Personally I haven't really had much time to work on the puzzle. Got an email from Mantle, though. He wants me to send him people who'd be interested in helping take down fallen. So, post or pm me an email, or just email him, if you're interested.

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Dav.y
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 		Ah, so it sounds we're actually splitting up this time. I also havent had any time to work on the puzzle, so I'm not sure what to do with that. I've been tempted to mail risen to ask for a hint because we have quite a lot of words and no indication of what to actually make with them.

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mrshomersimpson
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Dav.y wrote:
Ah, so it sounds we're actually splitting up this time. I also havent had any time to work on the puzzle, so I'm not sure what to do with that. I've been tempted to mail risen to ask for a hint because we have quite a lot of words and no indication of what to actually make with them.


good thinking, It is not that i have not had the time to work on it, I have, in all honesty im just not sure what to do with the words when they are all rearranged? i mean it seems like there is nothing we need to do with them

I have had no emails from anyone Despite me emailing TWICE

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draghkar
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 		the following site might help to recreate the sentence:

http://www.thecanadianteacher.com/tools/games/sentence/

it will allow the words to be scrambled.. so it might scramble it correctly for someone..

(or close enough)
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mrshomersimpson
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draghkar wrote:
the following site might help to recreate the sentence:

http://www.thecanadianteacher.com/tools/games/sentence/

it will allow the words to be scrambled.. so it might scramble it correctly for someone..

(or close enough)



i tried that site on the sentence.. this is what pinged back

Quote:
i mantle have wish on forced everything mantle i my those everything vengeance who vengeance my now was forsaken lost i reclaim to and forced purgatory was wish


as you can see it makes no sense.

I am slightly confused. He says he is god, so i looked up the definition of mantle... in a biblical sense...which came back with the following...


Quote:
mantle

Four Hebrew words are translated as "mantle" in the Bible.

Hebrew: 'addereth, meaning: a large over-garment

This word is used of Elijah's mantle (1 Kings 19:13, 19; 2 Kings 2:8, 13, etc.), which was probably a sheepskin. It appears to have been his only garment, a strip of skin or leather binding it to his loins.

'Addereth twice occurs with the epithet "hairy" (Gen. 25:25; Zech. 13:4, Revised Version). It is the word denoting the "goodly Babylonish garment" which Achan coveted (Josh. 7:21).

Hebrew: me'il

frequently applied to the "robe of the ephod" (Ex. 28:4, 31; Lev. 8:7), which was a splendid under tunic wholly of blue, reaching to below the knees

It was woven without seam, and was put on by being drawn over the head. It was worn not only by priests but by kings (1 Sam. 24:4), prophets (15:27), and rich men (Job 1:20; 2:12). This was the "little coat" which Samuel's mother brought to him from year to year to Shiloh (1 Sam. 2:19), a miniature of the official priestly robe.

Hebrew: Semikah, "a rug"

the garment which Jael threw as a covering over Sisera (Judg. 4:1Cool

The Hebrew word occurs nowhere else in Scripture.

Hebrew: Maataphoth, plural, only in Isa. 3:22, denoting a large exterior tunic worn by females.


im struggling to fit how a item of dress fits into this perhaps its not related......

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mushkiss
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 		To mrshomersimpson,

Mantle can also mean assuming a position of power, like one occupies a throne, one can wear a mantle. It could likely be more figurative than literal.

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zerovin
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 		i've tried putting the words together too, but no luck. every time i try, i always seem to come back to using these sentences:

" i lost everything"

and since he said that he could only be forsaken, a few pages back i thought:

" i was forsaken"

still seems to be pretty hard working out this sentence, do we really have all the words?

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Dav.y
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 		I've sent an email asking for a hint, like the number of sentences we're supposed to be looking for, haven't heard back yet.

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