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Dedlok
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Cardnals wrote:
Wait...so if Firebrand is trying to stop the observer and help Noah, why did he take Noah in November 11th?

Also there's some Firebrand text in the unboxing, I haven't checked any other videos but there's also the red and orange distortion which I'm pretty sure is Firebrand's.


"I am speaking to you now through a brief moment of clarity." Implying that there are times where his mind is in a fog and he more than likely does not realize or be in control of what he may be doing at times.

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Gold Knight
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Cardnals wrote:
Wait...so if Firebrand is trying to stop the observer and help Noah, why did he take Noah in November 11th?

Firebrand might have been trying to warn Noah. It's just that his appearance startled Noah and gave the Observer a chance to take him. Or maybe Firebrand wasn't in full control back then.

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RedSoul78
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Wondering if "the blade" is literal or just symbolic of knowledge contained in the journal, since Firebrand mentions it just after the contents of the augmented tome and it's fairly difficult to store a blade within a journal kept in an ammo box.

The missing information about paradoxes is likely something to the extent of "The Collective travel back through time and form paradoxes that result in their recruitment. We are our own saviors and enslavers." Not sure what he's saying about creating a stable time loop though.

"Together, we can destroy the Administrator (or maybe the Collective). I have seen the end and it is beautiful.

Since Firebrand referred to Mary as "Mary Asher", he likely did the same with Robert behind the redacted text. That said, there probably isn't much that could fit in that space after "Robert Asher's". Mary supposedly killed Robert and she's pretty crazy, so is she literally keeping his body in a safe and Noah needs to somehow revive him? Perhaps the same thing the Collective did with Milo after he tried to overdose?

Interesting that the craziest-looking, least-human member of the Collective turned out to be on Noah's side and also how he called himself Firebrand, rather than his host's name. It may mean that not only do the Collective members control their host bodies, but also that Slendy controls (at least a few of) their actual Collective personalities as well.

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Neoclimax
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RedSoul78 wrote:
It may mean that not only do the Collective members control their host bodies, but also that Slendy controls (at least a few of) their actual Collective personalities as well.


If that is true, why didnt slendy make Firebrand go full on douchebag like the observer?

Maybe the quote from Noah's childhood might have something to do with it?

"the truth lies within, rivers flow is where it begins, when the dawn breaks the soul awakens."

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Neoclimax wrote:
RedSoul78 wrote:
It may mean that not only do the Collective members control their host bodies, but also that Slendy controls (at least a few of) their actual Collective personalities as well.


If that is true, why didnt slendy make Firebrand go full on douchebag like the observer?

Maybe the quote from Noah's childhood might have something to do with it?


Firebrand mentioned a "moment of clarity", so perhaps the Slender Man's almighty power over him has been faltering for whatever reason. Or he simply lets the Collective members have their own free wills at times as part of the game of chess, but it seems to go against the information Observer has given us on Formspring.

Wondering more than ever what Noah saw when he looked at Firebrand's face in the real world. The guy has pinhole eyes and eyeballs on his hands, so it's hard to see how he can even exist in the real world at all, unlike the rest of the Collective. Then again, the first time we saw Observer, he had one giant eyeball, so their appearances could change within their realm.

Edit: Looking back through Observer's answers, there are some that seem to sort of conflict with recent information. We were told that the Keeper creates the Collectives' personalities (although they retain aspects of their host's personalities), so it's even stranger than Firebrand would be able to resist. Observer also mentions that if he were to disobey his keeper, he would be "expunged". Firebrand is obviously still around, so he may be too important for the Administrator to dismiss just yet. He was depicted as the white king, after all.

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bgchaosdude
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I think a moment of clarity refers to that he doesn't have to leave encrypted messages anymore, and can be straighforward.

Edit: Also him not being able to relay some information because of the administrator proves that it's not slendy clouding his judgment or whatever
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Firebrand's font looked fixed width to me. Assuming that's true, I tried counting the number of characters in each blacked-out space. There were a few places (usually at the end of a line) where I wasn't entirely sure if there was an extra space or not. Maybe it'll help, maybe not. Unfortunately, the Administrator could be blacking out extra space at the end of each portion of the message.

There's a line of space at each... well, if it were a document I'd say "page break," but I'm not sure what to say for a video. "New slide," maybe? Smile

Firebrand Transcript
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Noah.
I am Firebrand of the Collective.

I've managed to cut him off for now.

I'm speaking to you now through a brief window of clarity.

It's taking me a lot of strength to relay this information to you and I only have a small window of time to do it, so heed these words.

Your grandfather possesses the journal of Sebastian Kraus along with some other items in an old ammunition box.

Whoever possesses this augmented tome is protected from our wrath because it contains {21 characters} The blade is {22 characters}

You must protect it at all costs. Do not let it fall into the hands of the Collective, or it's all over.

Once you have the relic, you must also find Mary Asher's safe. It's very important that you find it. Inside is Ro{16 characters}

When the time comes to send the journal to Robert, you'll know. Just remember, I'm here to help you.

Milo will send you his journal. I will make sure of that.

Never give up. Never stop until you win. You can do this, we can do this. You may not know me yet, but you need to trust me.

I know what needs to be done. After all, I'm your best friend. We a{15-16 characters}

Please forgive me for the omitted text. I'm unable to relay certain information because the Administrator will not allow it, but I've always been there for you.

I've been inserting hidden messages in some of your videos for a while now. And don't you remember that special quote, the one from your childhood?

"The truth lies within. The river's flow is where it begins. When the dawn breaks the soul awakens."

It is more meaningful than you know, but I have no time to explain. The Observer will now try to transport you to our realm, but I will attempt to redirect you elsewhere.

Then, I will go back {19 characters} stable time loop. The Collective {33 characters} and form paradoxes that result in {14 characters}

{10 characters} our own saviors and enslavers. {17 characters} can command this realm, and us as extensions {14-15 characters}

So the game isn't over, Noah. I'm on your side. Together, we can destroy the {19-20 characters} I have seen the {3 characters} and it is beautiful.


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AmpersandJR
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bgchaosdude wrote:

When the dawn breaks the soul awakens- uhhhmmm derp?


Ever since this Formspring question: http://www.formspring.me/TribeTwelve/q/388584360133029215, I think the dawn breaking refers to Noah's death, and the soul awakening as Noah's reaction to his impending death. Some people claim to be enlightened in some way with the knowledge of death, and Noah himself said 'it changes the way you think.'

The 'LOOK, EXPOSITION' that was Firebrand's hi-jack, was probably meant to distinguish Observer's cryptic-ness from Firebrand's 'window of clarity.'

EDIT: There be new tweets.

Quote:
I've calmed down and sobered up. I'll upload the footage on my camera soon. But, since I'm going to live, I have to do a few things first.


Quote:
And I'm not saying what happened because I don't want anyone to freak out about it until they see the video for themselves. It's a doozy.


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SignerJ
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Canon

Wow. I thought that Adam was joking when he said that he was going to have to establish canon. (EDIT: Did he say that? I'm not so sure now...) But, that's just what he had to do. Canonically, or in the storyline, the video did play during the livestream -- so I guess that the failed recording of the session managed to prove beneficial, if not useful.

Source: "In a few minutes I'm going to make the private video that I found on my channel public, the one that played during my livestream last night. "
Emphasis added.


Also: http://thenimbus.tumblr.com/post/35629782342/the-official-stickam-account-followed-me-on

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bishop project
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(Hi all! First post here. Didn't see any introduction thread so I thought I would do it here. Anyway...)

I have a theory on Firebrand based on the new video.

"You will still join us,sooner or later. It is your destiny"

"I will go back...stable time loop....form paradoxes that result in..."

Firebrand is actually Noah from the future, or at least a possible future.

Maybe this has all happened before and Noah succumb to The Collective for one reason or another.

However, he managed to break through into another timeline and contact his past self to try and prevent the same thing happening to him.

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jackofnotrades
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So...when did TT turn into a video game with Noah as the protagonist? Suddenly there is talk of a sacred tome and a blade and stable time loops...




...inb4 its a trick, and the "white" players just want the journal for themselves, and while they are indeed against the "black" players, are nowhere near good themselves. Noah is the only agent of free will on the board, and everyone is trying to manipulate him, using either fear or friendship

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flunez
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I thought it was strange how the Observer used emotion in the video. If I recall correctly, he said in a previous video that he does not experience any emotion.

Anyway as far as the stream, Stickam can only really handle about 1000 people in the room at one time. There was another stream I used to listen to on Stickam, which was JUST audio (no video at all) and it was laggy as fuck as soon as we got 2000+ people in there. I think TT has just outgrown Stickam Razz

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TallulahBelle
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What if Firebrand is just playing the good cop?

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Neoclimax
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flunez wrote:
I thought it was strange how the Observer used emotion in the video. If I recall correctly, he said in a previous video that he does not experience any emotion.


The observer lied about not experiencing emotions, case closed

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professorrev
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I'm gonna have to watch all the earlier stuff again, and I'm still deffo in the "Noah is Firebrand" camp, particularly if Interception is in fact stating tjay the Collective create time paradoxes to recruit themselves from the past, but wasn't it the case rhay Noah's childhood best friend died in a fire? Coincidence or deliberation?

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