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[Jingleman]

I'm a little late to the party this time, but here are a few thoughts. Good entry.

- On the "dark place:" I usually prefer mundane explanations whenever possible, but I'm taking this one as a supernatural place for now. Whether you want to call it another dimension, universe, or whatever, I think the implication is that it's a supernatural place apart from our world, under the control of the Operator. It's premature to call it the ark.

I found two things interesting about the dark place: (1) we got footage of it, therefore the camera, and by extension, Tim, must have been physically there. Whatever is going on with Tim, he's actually being moved around; it's not some sort of astral projection or spirit movement or whatever. (2) Tim found Bruce's body. A lot of people have wondered what the lack of deterioration implies about the place, but I find it more interesting that Tim just happened to stumble into the only person confirmed dead in the whole series. No other bodies were visible. Does that mean that nobody else is dead, and that the other missing folks are running around somewhere without their memories? Or are there other dead people in the darkness, and Tim just randomly saw Bruce? What are the odds?

Did anybody else think that Tim was going to roll the body over and see his own face staring back?

- On the distortion: I think it's significant that the chest cam was showing distortion prior to Tim being attacked. Since the other camera was clean during that time, I don't think that the footage was distorted at the time it was shot. Rather, I think that the tape was corrupted as a whole when Tim was taken.

An argument can be made that what might be taken as teleportation was just a scrambling of the footage, along the same lines as the distortion - the tape was corrupted. That was my initial reaction, anyway; teleportation didn't even occur to me.

- On the voicemail: I liked this move very much. Normally, Jay would have just typed "Tim finally left a message" or something, but I thought this was much more dramatic. I hope that the captions don't go away altogether (and there have been fewer of them lately, right?), but I approve of the occasional break from the norm for the drama of it. I think there is some discussion to be had about the time of the message, which was around 3:00 AM, right? When Tim collapsed in the hospital, the sun was still out. In fact, there's a lot to speculate about, time-frame-wise, in this entry, because it's been so long since 64.

- On Tim's hallucinations: I like a regression theory here, where Tim is seeing things from his childhood at the hospital, either as hallucinations or as actual psychological regression. I think that the "He's right there" or whatever Tim was yelling might be a massively important piece of foreshadowing. This next trip to the hospital is set up to be a major round of exposition. I wonder if the Dr. [REDACTED] stuff from the medical records will come into play.

- On Tim's excuses: I don't read any treachery in Tim's hesitation; I think it's just OOG considerations. They wanted to save the revelations for the next entry, at the hospital. I do think that, IG, Tim's job is a weak reason not to talk, and Jay should have insisted that Tim tell him everything before going anywhere, or at least get a better reason than "trust me" for why Tim can't, but that's just the nature of the episodic format. I wish they would justify that stuff a little better, though.

[NA_Fury]

[CHOMPS]

So here's a theory my husband and I collaborated on.

- Assuming TO is one of the criminals from Alex's story in Entry #38, the way to get rid of TO once and for all is to set him on fire again.

- When TO takes you, he takes you through a body of water to protect himself from anything that might set him on fire. (We assume that dark world is his lair of sorts.)

- An ark can refer to a container of safekeeping, like the Ark of the Covenant.

- Therefore, TTA needs an ark to carry something flammable through the teleportation water to get rid of TO once and for all. How and why this involves the MH crew is anyone's guess. This was just a small piece to the large puzzle that makes some sense to us.

Cheers!

[anothergreg]

So, off-topic. Anybody notice that when Tim fell @11:01 that the combination of the ceiling lights and the distortion from the fish-eye lens made it look like the ceiling was smiling? Kind of looked like Sockboy.



Anyway, back on topic...

[aidansean]

[catgirl789]

[Serum]

Okay, judging by what I've seen in this entry, I'd say that Tim is definitely lying about not remembering what he saw while he was in Masky mode or skipping around the Dark World with the dead people. But, there is the possibility he truly doesn't remember, though from the way he reacted to Jay at the end, it's unlikely.

When he's in the hospital, in the large room, which I'm assuming was either a cafeteria or a group therapy hall before the place was destroyed, and he's looking at the door screaming "there it is, it's right over there," his voice becomes distorted, similar to the way sound reacts to the Operator or one of his proxies. I think it's safe to assume that while the Operator was not visible, he was present, either metaphysically inside Tim's mind, or choosing to be unseen by the camera.

Also, the presence of water in this entry intrigues me, as an "ark" usually floats on water, and Tim was apparently drowning in that water. I'm not entirely sure the Ark is a place, but rather some sort of vehicle in which to be charioted to or away from the Dark World. The fact that Tim saw the dead guy, who was still "fresh" after more than a year after dying leads me to assume that not only does time work differently in the Dark World, but physics, as well. But what it all means as a whole continues to elude me...

[LBfly]

Sorry i havent read all the posts (yet) and i know im late but about the water relation, does anyone remember that entry from a loooooong time ago when Tim was shooting MH with Alex and Jay and the Operator was behind the window, staring at the camera? Tim said he was thirsty and asked for his water bottle. As soon as he stopped drinking, the footage froze. When Jay opened the closet when he went to the house at night, he started coughing and distortion could be heard when he touched the water bottle.

Another thing... how did Tim know "HE IS A LIAR" was about him? O_O


definitely waiting for TTA's response

[Serum]

[device]

Well, that was amazing. Kudos to Tim for his mad acting skillz and willingness to be dumped into freezing water in the middle of November again and again to keep us entertained. Also, kudos to Troy for the filming and direction. So harrowing and well done... I can't imagine how long this took to shoot and how hard it must be to capture certain shots using a camera you can't see through as you use it.

As for the storyline...
Yeah, I think I agree that we are seeing child-flashback Timmy here. I also think what he was digging for was his mask...perhaps the purpose of the masks is that it affords some small protection from the operator, and he somehow figured that out as a child.

Something that makes me curious... does anyone think that Hoody has already had access to the recording on Tim's camera... and possibly edited it? After all, in "Display" the first images are of underwater... and later, water pooling near the tunnel. Maybe the footage of Tim being dragged is not by Oppy but by Hoody.

Although, wild theory time... Maybe Hoody is Tim's former doctor. Perhaps he's been using him ever since childhood. Remember the hairless figure from TTA's videos... maybe him? After he was burned in the fire at the facility?

[device]

[Serum]

[Abalone]

[Serum]

I think that the water and the "Ark" are symbolic, both visually and sub textually.

[DaturaStramonium]