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Animal wrote:
Something about this entry doesn't make sense to me. If Tim got to see where Bruce is, in the slendy dimension lets say, why did the Operator let him escape? Why did he just do all that weird shit to him and nothing else?


It's all part of Korrok's plan. I'm now under the firm belief that the Operator himself is a proxy to Korrok, and that in whatever dimension the Operator hails from, he's a simple amphibian creature that Korrok has dressed up like a human (for whatever reason) and has been using him to carry out some master scheme. This would explain the water, the use of the word "ark" and the associations the Operator has with water, as well as the fact that his hands resemble flippers.

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Animal wrote:
Something about this entry doesn't make sense to me. If Tim got to see where Bruce is, in the slendy dimension lets say, why did the Operator let him escape? Why did he just do all that weird shit to him and nothing else?

Actually did anyone think that alex was the one dragging and drowning him not the operator? that would make alot more sense to me.


Maybe the Operator wanted Tim to go there but intended for him to leave later on. As for why, I'm not sure.

I think that the dragging may have been done by the Operator, at least, because if it was Alex, then Tim might be able to fight back.

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Regarding the "Static Hole," I'm pretty sure that the hole wasn't the cause of the static. That was the "Red Tower" entry, "Entry #21." The hole wasn't the only place distortion occurred in that entry; it happened at the tower, and then lightly when Jay opened the silver box. That implies that Jay's camera was being distorted by somebody who's been known to cause distortion, like Hoody and the Operator, both of whom have been known to stalk Jay, unseen, in the background of these entries. The static begins right around the first sighting of the hole, at 0:38, but it continues for around four seconds after Jay stops focusing on the hole, until about 0:47. I don't think that it was the hole. If it was, and that's some critical place with residual energy from a terrible thing, then maybe we'll see it again, but I doubt it.

On another note, I like the idea that Jay might betray Tim. I'm not saying it will happen, but I think it could be a good twist. The thing is, Jay has generally tried to do right by everybody. He started looking for Alex originally out of concern for him. He tried to help Alex to find and help Amy, and he tried to protect Jessica. His relationship with Tim has been mostly about concern for Jessica and sympathy for Tim's predicament. The interesting question for Jay going forward, then, might be whether there is something that would be more important to him than doing right by Tim. What could be important enough for Jay to sacrifice Tim to get it? If it comes down to a choice between Tim and Jessica, that might be interesting.

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Animal wrote:
Something about this entry doesn't make sense to me. If Tim got to see where Bruce is, in the slendy dimension lets say, why did the Operator let him escape? Why did he just do all that weird shit to him and nothing else?


My theory is that the Operator didn't let Tim escape, it's just that easy to escape. "Bruce" cannot escape because he's dead, so he'll stay there forever unless someone were to carry him out.

As for why the dead body hasn't decomposed at all... everything from our world that goes into that dimension cannot be harmed or changed in any way, including people's memories. That's why Tim didn't remember it afterwards. Perhaps everyone who gets slendynapped ends up there, and that's the reason why they don't remember anything afterward.



Also, when it comes to the Operator, I don't think there is a "why". He just is.

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Foood wrote:
As for why the dead body hasn't decomposed at all... everything from our world that goes into that dimension cannot be harmed or changed in any way, including people's memories. That's why Tim didn't remember it afterwards. Perhaps everyone who gets slendynapped ends up there, and that's the reason why they don't remember anything afterward.

Makes sense except for one thing: the chestcam "remembered."

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Jingleman wrote:
If it comes down to a choice between Tim and Jessica


^This is the only way I could ever see Jay intentionally hurting Tim. Like you said, Jay always wants to do the right thing, we've never seen him intentionally hurt someone. He's gotten people into trouble with his derpiness but he's a nice guy.

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Foood wrote:
My theory is that the Operator didn't let Tim escape, it's just that easy to escape. "Bruce" cannot escape because he's dead, so he'll stay there forever unless someone were to carry him out....

That's an interesting take on it. I don't buy it, though. That would make the Operator pretty ineffective. If the worst he can do is take you for a scary ride, then that's not really so bad. It's just a matter of learning to roll with it; you're not in mortal danger.

The real question is, what makes Tim and Jay different? Everybody else that the Operator has "taken" has either disappeared completely, or become evil (Alex). Tim and Jay, on the other hand, have been attacked again and again, even disappeared for long periods and had their memories wiped, but they always come back to their "normal" lives. Tim's Masky and mental issues aside, why are these guys still here when nobody else is?

It makes me think that what we saw in this entry is not really what normally happens when somebody is "taken." Tim was taken, sure, but not permanently. Maybe the reason his ordeal was so chaotic was that it wasn't the ideal abduction from the Operator's point of view. Maybe something about Tim makes it difficult for the Operator to get him to the "dark place," and even harder to keep him there. I don't know; I'm going to have to ponder this some more.

CraicIsMighty wrote:
Jingleman wrote:
If it comes down to a choice between Tim and Jessica


^This is the only way I could ever see Jay intentionally hurting Tim. Like you said, Jay always wants to do the right thing, we've never seen him intentionally hurt someone. He's gotten people into trouble with his derpiness but he's a nice guy.

Yeah, I think that Jessica is the only motivator we've seen for Jay that would come close to trumping his desire to be good to Tim, but I'd be interested to see if there was something else that could do it. If it's something totally new, it would have to be introduced pretty soon for it to pay off well. But what about his survival? What if he was given the opportunity to be free forever if he sacrifices Tim? The Jay we know would probably not take that deal, but it might be interesting if Jay turned into Alex, if it were written in such a way that earned that kind of twist.

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Boros7 wrote:
Foood wrote:
As for why the dead body hasn't decomposed at all... everything from our world that goes into that dimension cannot be harmed or changed in any way, including people's memories. That's why Tim didn't remember it afterwards. Perhaps everyone who gets slendynapped ends up there, and that's the reason why they don't remember anything afterward.

Makes sense except for one thing: the chestcam "remembered."


What I meant to say is that people, organic material, things are exclusive to our dimension cannot be changed. Technology is bit different though. After all, the Operator wears a business suit and certain parts of that alternate dimension appear to have a concrete surface. Maybe, in some bizarre way, manmade materials are "natural" to the Operator's dimension.

Jingleman wrote:
Foood wrote:
My theory is that the Operator didn't let Tim escape, it's just that easy to escape. "Bruce" cannot escape because he's dead, so he'll stay there forever unless someone were to carry him out....

That's an interesting take on it. I don't buy it, though. That would make the Operator pretty ineffective. If the worst he can do is take you for a scary ride, then that's not really so bad. It's just a matter of learning to roll with it; you're not in mortal danger.


And yet we haven't had any instances of the Operator directly killing anyone. Almost all of the Operator's "attacks" on people were carried out by Alex. The only confirmed kill was done entirely by Alex. From what we've seen, the Operator does things a certain way, and Alex has used that to his advantage. The Operator is incredibly scary, and has powers that can be used to harm people, but Alex is the true danger here.

Every time that Jay, Tim, or Alex ran into the Operator, they always disappeared and reappeared sometime later. It would make sense that they were taken to the Operator's dimension and made their way out themselves. When the dead guy disappeared, he stayed in that dimension simply because he's dead, so he couldn't just get up and walk out.

And we don't actually know if Brian, Seth, and Amy have truly disappeared. In Alex's Entry #22 speech, he said that Tim and Jay were gone, when they are in fact, not. But if these other characters are dead, maybe their bodies are in that dimension but we just haven't seen them yet.

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Tim, Alex, Jay, Jessica, they all forgot what happened the first time around and The Operator left them alone until the tapes were watched.

Maybe the only way to survive this is to forget it all.

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Boros7 wrote:
Foood wrote:
As for why the dead body hasn't decomposed at all... everything from our world that goes into that dimension cannot be harmed or changed in any way, including people's memories. That's why Tim didn't remember it afterwards. Perhaps everyone who gets slendynapped ends up there, and that's the reason why they don't remember anything afterward.

Makes sense except for one thing: the chestcam "remembered."

Doesn't make sense, actually. Operator-related amnesia mostly occurs in situations where no interplanar travel seems to have happened at all. In Season 1 we saw that perfectly mundane shoots from the original Marble Hornets movie were totally gone from Jay's memory. He had even forgotten the extent of his involvement in the project, and much of that had to involve ordinary meeting, organizational tasks, paperwork, extensive conversations... Nothing to do with the Operator at all. All gone.

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Omberto wrote:
Tim, Alex, Jay, Jessica, they all forgot what happened the first time around and The Operator left them alone until the tapes were watched.

Maybe the only way to survive this is to forget it all.


You do realize how formulaic that sounds, right? It's like saying "the only way to remember is to forget," or "in order to move up, you need to go down," or "until you learn to master your rage, your rage will be your master."

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Oh shit... something actually happened.

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Metzi wrote:
Oh shit... something actually happened.

And what was that?

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Serum wrote:
Omberto wrote:
Tim, Alex, Jay, Jessica, they all forgot what happened the first time around and The Operator left them alone until the tapes were watched.

Maybe the only way to survive this is to forget it all.


You do realize how formulaic that sounds, right? It's like saying "the only way to remember is to forget," or "in order to move up, you need to go down," or "until you learn to master your rage, your rage will be your master."

Formulaic to the point of cliché, yes, but it makes sense. Before watching the tapes again Jay had forgotten almost everything about the film and he was leading a normal life; Tim didn't regress into Masky state until Jay started investigating, and until recently he didn't remember anything either. As for Alex, he was doing pretty well until, once again, Amy found his old camera and brought the Operator back to his life.

So yes, I'd say that your best bet is to forget about it, and until you do so, the Operator will do just about anything to make you forget.

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Hi everyone, long time lurker.
I've had an idea floating around in my head for a while now. We can't really explain how Tim was able to escape Slendyland (unless, of course, TO was just toying with him) but we have evidence that might work. During Tim's time in Slendyland, we see him having a seizure - this indicates that he's switching from Tim to Masky (Entry 61). This switch may have been triggered by Tim being under severe stress, or him being without his pills, or it is his defence against TO. We've seen Masky as being fairly strong and agressive - physical attributes that don't really matter when you're being thrown around by TO - but Masky also has little to no emotion. Perhaps Masky is a sociopath.

I've also noticed that it seems TO causes more distortion in the videos depending on the amount of fear/anger in the scene. For example, in Entry 17, TO is standing directly behind Tim, in very close proximity to the camera. Unless TO does have the ability to direct his distortion powers (as people think he did with Tim's chest cam - I'll touch on this later), that camera should have been affected. Nobody noticed TO in Entry 17; nobody was scared or angry. Now lets look at every time somebody spots TO. Even if TO is on camera, that doesn't mean it will start to create severe audio and video distortions (many instances during season 1, when TO is more creepy to the characters and less of a threat) and if the character in close proximity to TO is calm, the distortions are also calmer (Entry 43, when Alex approaches TO. Entry 44, or any entry that involves sleeping is also a good example). As soon as people begin to panic, the distortions become more intense, as if TO's powers are growing stronger. Anger also seems to incite more distortion as well. This does sound a little cheesy, but what if TO feeds off of fear/anger?

If this is the case, then Tim's mind developed Masky over the years as a defence mechanism to TO. Since Masky (presumably) feels no emotion, TO's powers are severely limited. This might also shed light on why Alex was never terribly affected by TO when they seemed to be teamed up. Alex was not being controlled by TO - Alex learned how to suppress his emotions around TO. Therefore, TO's powers were limited and decided to team up with Alex for whatever reasons, perhaps for a similar goal.

To return to "TO can direct his powers", I think that Tim was simply more scared than Jay as they were walking through Rosswood. Jay has done a pretty good job at keeping his cool throughout the series, but Tim has been incredibly hesitant throughout season 3 and I can imagine he was very terrified about the possibility of things going wrong. Anyways, I apologize for the bulky post but I just wanted to present these ideas and see what you all think.

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