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[aidansean]

A bit of random speculation to try to make some sense of Entry #65... Is there any reason to think that the order on the camera is the chronological order? We know that encounters with the operator can severely screw up tapes to the point where frames appear all over the place.

Here's what I'm thinking: There's no water in the tunnel (it looks like there is, but it's really just the camera screwing up and overlaying frames.) Tim manages to get up and try to catch up with Jay and this gives us the running scenes 1:37-1:47, 2:44-2:54, 1:47-2:02. Then Tim gets taken for the first time at 2:30-2:43, and we skip back to the water at 1:06-1:36. Skip ahead to 2:20-2:30, and then again to 3:14 where he appears. He looks at the sky and teleported again, while also being completely dried out at 4:01, far ahead of Jay. He gets into his car, and as soon as Jay arrives he drives off. (He's asleep until Jay arrives, and he doesn't want Jay to come to harm so he drives off without speaking to him.)

Tim knows that some stuff is going down in the hospital, but he's not sure where. He goes there to find out. He has some flashbacks and takes his pills. He falls asleep at 11:25 and the next thing that happens is the operator appearing at 2:05 to take Tim (this is the hospital corridor, right?) Then the crazy other worldly stuff happens with 2:04-2:06, and 2:55-3:12. Tim gets teleported back to the hospital and that's where 2:07-2:19 take place. The other worldly stuff looks a lot more like the hospital than the woods to me, which makes for an easier transition from one place to another for the operator.

Then when Tim wakes up all he knows is something happened at the hospital, and what's why he tells Jay they have to go there, even though he can't explain what to expect.

There are some holes with this theory. Would the camera batteries really last that long in real life? Probably not. On the other hand it could explain how Alex manages to "disappear" in Entry #48 at 3:50, even though he's just a few metres ahead of Jay. The operator could have teleported Alex through the water (hence Alex's need for a waterproof camera in that entry) which would make it look like Jay just lost track of him.

Unrelated to this, the bit that bothers me most about Entry #65 is that Bruce is obviously wearing his shirt. So what about Entry #29? Is that some other shirt?

[brdardin]

O.o Wow...... that was........ I was genuinley disturbed.

[TheManPF]

On the subject of Tim being dragged, I don't think he was being dragged by TO nor anyone else. If someone was dragging him he could easily fight too, but he didn't. I think that in this part, Tim was being dragged by some force rather than a being, like he was being "sucked" to the hole/water by some means.

Also, I think something happened to Jay when he ran away from the tunnel (which would explain the scene at 9:35 in entry #64) which wasn't recorded by the camera. That would be the only reason to explain it, since Tim was groveling to the parking lot and got there before Jay did.

Also, is that blood in the corner at around 8:05?

[aidansean]

[Omberto]

On the subject of the Dead Man's Head, everyone noting that he still has his head that is, remember, Alex bashed his head in with a hammer, that's all. Likely he deformed the victim's face and ensured he was dead, but he didn't completely sever the guy's head. Also remember, The Operator took everything with him when he cleaned up the mess.

Idle though while I'm here and I'm sorry if someone's noted this but, the tunnel was a rather remote area, right? I mean Alex and Jay had to travel through a lot of random brush off path to get there. So what was that guy doing there?

[Serum]

I don't think the dead guy in the Dark World was Bruce. He wasn't dressed like Bruce, and we didn't get a good enough look at him to be sure.

[Omberto]

[Serum]

[Foood]

[Dreveth]

[Foood]

[Omberto]

Agreed Foood, different planes of reality are being jumped around on this entry, but the people trying to make sense of it by grounding theories on our understanding of rational and physics need to stop. The Operator is a n entity that has existed for who knows how long with abilities we can barely grasp using our realm of knowledge. Considering this thing exists in what we can only propose is theoretical realms and is able to do the things it does, we cannot tie it to our knowledge of time and space.

The Operator is a kind of Missingno, and so we cannot logically understand him. He simply is. He operates, and we are left to wonder.

[Dreveth]

[Omberto]

[Dreveth]