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draghkar
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polaris wrote:

This person also describes Dr Levitskaya as "she," but the image on the SQN wiki is of a man. Is this in jest?


Thane posted on the volunteers board the following:

Thane Joie wrote:
I will retire to an honorary status, and as the last act as Chairman I will appoint Dr. Levitskaya to full status on the board.

She's is from the Institute of Russian Foreign Policy and well-suited to forward PACEM's goals.


so somehow the wiki people are in error.. - I think
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I send out some mails to several persons on the board, now that thane has resigned, and with these new comments, I think we deserve some clarification from them:

To Susan I sent:
Quote:

Hi Susan,

I hope this mail reaches you in good health..

I have been voluteering for PaceM for a while, and am getting a bit worried.

first Kossi gets murdered, then all sorts of accusations are made towards you and others, and not thane resigns as a chairman..

Also someone called Saliq Nameb showed up, accusing YOU of being part of SQN, an organisation trying to hang up Pacem.

Check the following: http://pacemblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/congrats-to-susan-daytona/#comments
i quote him below:
Oh my.. first branded a potential traitor, and now congratulations??? what is going on here…. why dont you just throw in the towel Susan Quinne daytona (born Newton)

Is this right?

Are you involved with SQN? just like this person implies?

Why have you not responded to this?

I would at least think that you would clear your name..

I would like to see pacem go the direction of peace, but all these conspiracies are so confusing...

Kind Regards,

Klaas


I sent the following to Dr. Levitskaya:
Quote:

Dr. Levitskaya

First of all, congratulations with your new position within Pacem. I wish you lots of success in your new role.
Secondly, I need to get something off my chest.
I have been volunteering for Pacem for a little while, and I am slightly worried about what happens around Pacem

The boards have recently been spammed with comments from a Saliq Nameb. and he claims that he knows you..

I quote: (from here: http://pacemblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/a-message-from-our-chairman/#comments)

---
I also noticed that you placed our long acquinted friend Turgenev Levitskaya in the board. You might actually do some sensual things here.. Welcome Turgenev, fancy a drink sometime again, like we did a long long time ago in the Zhuravlina restaurant in Chelyabinsk?
I remember you particularly fancied sbiten.. I still do wonder how you can stomach the combination of those herbs and honey.. but hey tastes differ..

---

Do you know who this is? do you remember you meeting him?

he refers to you in another post as well: (here: http://pacemblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/23/introductions/
---

oh and say hi to Dr Levitskaya from me.. she is an old friend, and I would love to know how she is doing..

---

He seems to be particularly friendly about you, so I wonder you can use this to turn this list of negativity go away..

Please let us know how we can help..

Klaas


To Arthur I send the following:
Quote:
Arthur,

For starters, congratulations on your new position of the chair of the PaceM board. I wish you luck with your new position..

I am slightly worried about the recent happenings on the board. I agree that the organization has been subject to threats and negativity, but why would you need to resort to censorship?
this is not how a peace organisation should work.. Personally I think that we can resort to other matters. I mean, freedom of speech is even one of the amendments in the united states. and the UN abides to that as well..

Having that off my chest, I think that striving for peace is the best step forward. I have read the comments, and it seems that this person, (seems to be only one!!) is an old friend (or so he claims) of Dr Levitskaya.
You could have her move into this, and see what the motives are of this person.

this would be better than to censor the website and the blog, and to act as a proper peace organisation.

Another question I have is what the plans are regarding SQN. Pacem seems to be fighting a hidden campaign somehow against SQN, and I would really like to know what is going on there, and how I can assist to get some clarity.
I have helped thane in the past with some research, and I was pretty successful in unmasking the infiltrator, so I can help you against SQN so we can gain the peace we need.

so please let me know what I can do to regain the peace.

kind regards,

Klaas

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mrshomersimpson
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you know guys

for a peace website, arthur is LESS than polite and peaceful.

I have started to find him rather rude.

Anyone else? Is he like this or is it just to me?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:23 pm
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@draghkar Looking forward to the response you receive.

@mhs Agreed. I think that PACEM is finally showing their true colors. Perhaps Thane was better at hiding behind a mask.

@NA_Fury You should definitely contact Arthur!

Regarding Levitskaya, there is an update to her wiki profile.
Quote:
This is dedicated to my father who died recently. My father worked his whole life so I could get an education.

I sent her a message to verify that he is the one in the photo.

There's a new player on the wiki, Dr. Milo Bender. Does anyone know who this is?
Quote:
The tomes of the Greek Orthodox church were in effect saying not only did they exist but they were actively plotting to destroy the Church (i.e., Greek Orthodox). The Church learned of this by torturing some avowed members of this cabal. They learned that members of the cabal fiercely believed that organized religion was actually preventing peace. The Athenian members of Sine Qua Non were later rounded up and executed for heresy.
(I will attach an image of the tome from the wiki.)
More regarding PACEM's true colors perhaps? Unless we're being played by SQN.

Sent a text to see if there were any updates on Thane. Turns out this was sent to "The Oracle." Has anyone figured out who this is? If it is not SQN and a third party, it would seem to me that they are currently moving against PACEM since I was sent a text regarding moving on Thane. Now it makes me wonder if LaCabla has been acting on behalf of the Oracle.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:02 pm
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draghkar
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I got an answer from Arthur.. its indeed a bit "rude"

Quote:
Klaas -
First of all I have decided to review posts for inappropriate or inflammatory content before I approve them, as any other publicly available forums do.
Secondly I'm not shutting down debate, just moderating it. You can't yell "fire!" in a crowded movie theatre.
Thirdly, I've asked Dr. Levitskaya (who by the way has her father's picture on her profile as a memorial to him, he recently died.) to explain her relationship to SaliQ Nameb and she hasn't even heard of him/her! Look at the name, capital letters spell out SQN. Really?
The hidden campaign is all on SQN's part we just continue to work for peace in a hostile environment. As for Thane, he expressed to me that he was resigning his post for a variety of reasons, the comment attacks were the last straw. (Look at the volunteer forum he expressed his reasons very clearly).
You should read the volunteer forum regularly to know what's happening behind the scene!
The infiltrator has been mushroomed (put in the dark and fed sh*t!), remember the old adage: keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Thanks for your part in unmasking him!
-- Arthur


now mind you, I read the forum on a daily basis, and comment on it.. pretty rude to tell me to do that..

he is really showing his true colors..

btw, I htink its quite interesting that kossi was killed in south africa, in johannesburg, and that arthur himself is from that same location..

correlation anyone???
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:41 am
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draghkar
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It seems they finally got their voluteer site back up in the air..

they lost the history.. like saliq said, a conspiracy to get rid of thane? or really a technical error.. who knows..

anyways.. Susan Daytona posted the following:

Quote:
I n a y n g i g o a n r h r b u s n p a s o i l i


and asks what it means..

Also brian brooks seems to be bumped up to be doing more activities for Pacem..
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just got a hush mail

Quote:
From: auto57914445SPLAThushmail.me
Subject: A hint
Sent: Thu Nov 29 2012 01:32:38 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time)
To: tracyjanellechampionSPLATgmail.com
s t n o e o n t w r a t u a o t q s l n t k l h m


a hint is the subject, maybe a hint on how to decode the quote draghkar posted

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draghkar
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did anyone happen to decode the message yet?


EDIT:
A new addition to the volunteer board:
Fiske Tved wrote:
I arrived today at 10am and I immediately called Thane. There was no answer, but I wasn't worried because he was scheduled for a meeting at the UN, I just wanted to be thorough. So, I texted Thane next - no answer. I went to my hotel, showered, shaved and was off to the UN building to look for Thane. I was informed that Thane never arrived at the meeting and indeed was no where in the building. Then, I started to worry.

Anyone have any suggestions while I'm in New York? What are his habits, favourite hang-outs, etc.?

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polaris
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Saliq Nameb has a Facebook page. The following was posted today.
Quote:
Thane Joie is under attack, and needs to be saved.. Arthur is behind this, and needs to be stopped..

join in our cause for justice and peace..


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mrshomersimpson
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hey guys, I got approached by arthur to be on the pacem board..
He contacted Dr Levitskaya, who will nominate me..

Quote:
Angela -

Dr. Levitskaya has agreed to nominate you. This assumes you pass the background check. We need one valid, government-issued, ID (like a drivers license, a passport, govt. ID, etc.).

Thank you for observing the process. Smile

-- Rev Foshay


There seems to be a bit of a twist now in pacem, since arthur is chair..
its become a bit sinister.. I think..
first the announcement that the primary goal will change
then thane getting attacked, and SaliQ trying to protect thane, and admitting error.
and it seems that Arthur lives where Kossi got murdered..
Do you guys have any more clues on where this will go?
what do we know about SaliQ?

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polaris
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I received the same e-mail as draghkar. Sent from auto21578448SPLAThushmail.com (I have seen this e-mail address before. Guarda LaCabla copied me when responding to information regarding Consuela Gonzales. - See previous comment in thread.)

Quote:
Look to a peer

for a source

that can steer

the right course


Find the gmail

from this clue

add to his email

cbe to be true


I believe the hushmail account may belong to Oracle. Thoughts?

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polaris
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Has anyone been on the Volunteer Forum?

Thane was assaulted. Fiske Tvedt posted.

Quote:
He just murmured something about, "...goons from c-quin..."


Sine Qua Non? Or have we considered a third party?

Fiske has posted again, now several days later, and cannot reach Thane. Arthur seems rather unconcerned...

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dunno if this has been posted its on the blog

Quote:
We'll be hosting several activities for the week of the Mayan Transformation. These activities are meant to enhance your peaceful enjoyment of the passage to a new, more peaceful world.

In Djakarta we're having a "prayer" sit-in at the Areveld Ancol
In Sydney we're hosting a "peace bbq" and vigil at the Harry Noble Reserve
In Lomé we purchased a stall in the market to highlight locally-grown vegetables and fruits
In Great Falls, MT we are hosting a "peace bbq" and vigil at Riverside Park
In Florence we are staging a raccogliere per la pace following up with a peaceful vigil.
In Tokyo, Hamisake Akirazu is hosting an outdoor reading and buddhist prayer session
In Mexico city, volunteer Consuela Gonzales is hosting a party and inviting Mayan Elders to speak
London is celebrating the Mayan Transformation with Fireworks co-hosted by PACEM and Volunteer Action for Peace UK (location TBD)
Barup Parpae is organizing an educational outing in conjunction with Cultural Survival
If you'd like to participate in any of these events, email Fiske Tvedt who agreed to be the contact point from PACEM for these activities, otherwise where names are mentioned contact them directly.

– Reverend Arthur Foshay


and this was posted today

Quote:
The Buddhist prayer will be held at Chiba-dera temple on Saturday, 15 December beginning at 0600h Tokyo time. Hamisake Akirazu will host an outdoor reading of Buddhist philosophy as regards it's peaceful tenets at 1100h.


wondering if i should ask about the london one, might pop down Razz

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polaris
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From looking at the previous threads here are the things we are currently working on:

1. Information regarding Thane's current situation, whereabouts.
2. Who are the "...goons from c-quin..."?
3. Riddle from recent hushmail account.
4. Who is SaliQ Nameb?
5. What happened to Kossi? (Why dead and who did it?)
6. What happened to the funds that disappeared around the death of Kossi?
7. What was Arthur's part in Kossi's murder? What are his plans?
8. Decode Daytona's post: I n a y n g i g o a n r h r b u s n p a s o i l i
9. Hint: s t n o e o n t w r a t u a o t q s l n t k l h m
10. Who is the Oracle?
11. Under who's orders was LaCabla acting?

Have I missed anything?

Things we know or thoughts related to above:
1. Possibly attacked (now dead?) by SQN or Arthur.
4. Accused Susan of being in SQN, friend of Thane's, dislikes PACEM, SQN?, has history with Levitskaya (friends or lovers?)
6. In comments under "Introductions" on the PACEM blog, "oracle" said that there were no missing funds.
7. Accused by SaliQ Nameb of being responsible for Kossi (and possibly Hans') death and stealing funds. He is from Johannesburg, where Kossie was killed. Perhaps blackmailed or threatened Thane to get his position.

EDIT: I e-mailed oraclecbeSPLATgmail.com and it is not the answer to the riddle. I thought it was a good shot consider "source that can steer the right course."

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I've been reading through the comments on various PACEM blog entries and wanted to post a few things that I'm not sure we have previously noted in this thread.

SaliQ Nameb may have visited Thane. This was posted on Nov. 29.
Quote:
Is that why the volunteer board went down and therefore erased the traces of Thane?
more and more I keep thinking in the end it might not have been him.. that he is just a gullible trusting person..

thats why i went to canada, to confirm..

He posted in a comment on Nov. 27.
Quote:
Please explain to me, what vicious attacks you are referring to? are you referring to the murder of Kossi?
or the murder of Hans Whelker?

I believe, or even better yet, we have proof that Pacem was involved with that..

Related to the missing funds, posted in a blog comment on November 30. This was in response to oracle saying that there were no missing funds.:
Quote:
I am pretty sure that the books have been altered by now…

Hans Whelker made sure that his bank made that donation.. and he was killed, under influence of Pacem, so that those funds could disappear..


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