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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2012
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Stanislav
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So I'm pretty sure that HABIT's wardrobe was somewhat inspired by Sinatra himself.


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Lithp
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I don't really see regret in HABIT's actions, I see a sort of mocking feigned concern.

But now that we mention Alex, to be honest, I don't recognize that guy as Alex at all. I'm just taking everyone's word for it because, honestly, I've always had a hard time recognizing him.

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I meant after Daniel died, not while he was "playing" with him.

I wasn't sure about that being Alex either... but he was the only one without his face concealed.

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TheCuza
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Stanislav wrote:
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So I'm pretty sure that HABIT's wardrobe was somewhat inspired by Sinatra himself.


HABIT probably was Sinatra.

"I've been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn, and a king..."

Sure sounds like him to me. I can only assume he left out all those serial killers because his music producer thought it would be bad for record sales.

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ZetaRuns wrote:
Does anyone feel like they're missing something? I feel like I'm missing something with watching this video.


replace the word "video" with "series" and you get the definition of EverymanHYBRID. Yet, I still love it. XD

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SaigoSentinel wrote:
ZetaRuns wrote:
Does anyone feel like they're missing something? I feel like I'm missing something with watching this video.


replace the word "video" with "series" and you get the definition of EverymanHYBRID. Yet, I still love it. XD


Hey, if it keeps you guessing (in a good way mind you) then its doing exactly what it supposed to be doing.

I kind of want to make a half awake horrible bad lost analogy here but I won't because, horrible bad analogy.

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Lithp
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So, if Habit's "begin final act" thing is taken literally, there's a good 30 videos left.

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I wonder why HABIT doesn't just kill Vinny?

Is it because Dr. C is protecting him? If so, why doesn't HABIT just kill Dr. C?

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A'ight. I think I've gestated this video long enough. Sorry about all the following text, also I haven't read any of the previous posts, I am a jerk, please forgive me. <3
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1.) Late to the smart party, but yeah I just realized HABIT wasn't talking to Steph, he was talking to Evan. I'm positive of that. That's fucking sad as hell.
2.) In texts with Ouroborus, we considered trying to appeal to Evan to fight back, via ourselves or Vin, but quickly shut that idea down. We don't need Vin anywhere near HABIT right now, and even if we succeeded, the Everyman Annotations said self-immolation. While maybe we can't save Evan at this point, and maybe that would be the only course of action, HABIT made sure to add the "BEGIN FINAL ACT" bit, which makes me think this is what he wants. So I'm wary of that.
3.) We don't actually know what was with the "hit squad"... I can't really decide if they were for HABIT or Daniel. If for HABIT, why the heck would Slends think that would work, and if for Daniel, why would Slends not just send HABs in the first place. Or in either case, do it Himself? I mean it works either way, it's not like a deal breaker for logic, but it is making me unsure who they were meant for.
4.) Yeah pretty sure that was Alex.
5.) I think we can confirm that for some reason Slenderman can't touch/harm/something the boys, and has been using HABIT to get them "delivered", seemingly dead. (I mean HABs lit Jeff on fucking fire.) If this is true, it might confirm the Slendyproof Baby theory, and speaking of-
6.) Back to the baby. I'm starting to think that was the bargain between Slenderman and HABIT. Slenderman wanted the guys, HABIT wanted the baby in return. Think of the first times we see HABIT- in the sleep lab video, he was reading CYSTW, already tracking Steph down. Not to be obvious, but Steph is the only female of the (likely) Slenderproof Four. Then, I'm thinking for some reason Slonds did/does not like the idea of the baby (the Slendyproof bit?), and either was reluctant or flat out refused, and this is why in the Ryan&TSTOH video, HABIT and Slendy were "arguing."
7.) To take the baby theory further, in the Candleverse vid, the guys were talking about "protecting the package". Could it be the baby? (The other option being something Widow C might have?) The guys would of course want to protect the baby, I don't see why not. It's also interesting that HABIT is present for that conversation as well, and is insisting on getting the keys. Surely he wants to keep the baby safe too.
8.) More Candleverse thoughts. I'm thinking that since we have evidence to believe that video happened back before the trials started, it was a way to show us what happened "last time"? Much the way it's going this time? Jeff died, and Vin apparently wasn't saved, and HABIT was taken out by Evan when Evan went. So maybe it's a comparison point?
9.) I am still positive that wasn't the real Corenthal. You cannot convince me that it wasn't HABIT.
10.) A bit off topic, but it was pointed out in the video when they showed the previous xmas footage, when Alex gave Jeff the fog horn. We were all pretty sure Alex knew, via Rake, that it was going to come in handy. Perhaps Vince was supposed to die first? Didn't he subsequently escape death again when he went to Evan's to find Jeff? The underwater footage didn't come to be, so once again he sort of scraped by? I like to think this is true, and that something is different from last time.
11.) Also, there were three (maybe two) distinct styles of footage in that video. Part of me is saying multiple dimensions/realities. Part of me is saying HABIT was clearly feeling creative when he made it.
12.) New role theory: We are the VOYEUR ("please stop watching us"), Vin is the GUARDIAN (fight to lose all he loves- in a weird way, I mean Jeff is dead, but Vin is still having to watch everything go to hell?), Jeff was actually the character of "Everyman" (as he stated in "Dead end with a Pulse"), which I wont explain because you guys should have read that play at this point anyways. <3
And my brain is done for now.


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I gotta say I agree with most of what your saying fish, but what makes the baby a better potential host than Evan? Both are suspected to be Slendyproof, so I guess it would just be the ability to mold and raise child where he can merge with it perfectly, in addition to having some kind of protection against slenderman? Though if this is true, then why is he still scared of/working with Slenderman? He is, after all inside Evan who we believe is immune to Slenderman somehow. Is Habit still vulnerable to Slenderman for some reason? Maybe, because Habit isn't perfectly in sync with Evan, the way he might be with a baby he can raise and bend to his will, Slenderman still has something over him, and in addition or alternatively, it could be like you said, Habit wants the baby and Slenderman doesn't want him to have it, so to protect it he has made some deal. After all, Habit is good, but he cant protect a single baby from an omnipotent metaphysical horror. Maybe it would be possible for the baby to be killed permanently by Slenderman due to its age? Alot of speculation but maybe it brings out some more ideas and clarity.

Also just thought I would add my two cents for Vin as the GUARDIAN. Habit says him self before killing Jeff that "Vin is more of a leader, he just wants to keep everyone together, keep everyone safe", Admittedly this sounds alot like the VOYEUR, said to remain his distance, rally his friends and insist upon maintaining their strength even before the play starts. However, this also sounds alot like us. If we look just at what Habit said without comparing it directly to the Everyman Prohpecy, it would depict Vin much more as a GUARDIAN to his friends than as a VOYEUR. We know that Vin had really liked the lady he met at the library before she was killed by unknown circumstances (The Guardian shall lose his love), but the only problem is that we are never shown any of Vinny's relatives (and then his kin), nor do any of them die that we know of.

The most troubling piece of information regarding Vin as the Guardian is what I found here

Looking toward the very top where it describes the contents of Box 5(Where the Everyman Prophecy comes from, I believe) it says that in the drawings that were left on the playing cards found inside the following was described:
Jeff (Jack of Hearts, with a broken heart drawn on)
Evan (The Jack of Spades with a dagger and hatchet drawn in)
Vince (Jack of Clubs with a large eye symbol drawn on)
Steph (Queen of Clubs, face scratched out)
Man (King of Diamonds)
Doc (Ace of Hearts)
HABIT (Joker, with a smiley face drawn on)

Now this could be a RED HERRING, it could be false information about what was ACTUALLY on the cards, but assuming that each of the cards explicitly gives a name and the associated drawing, it gives a pretty strong canonical argument for our original beliefs as to who had what role in the Prophecy.

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Ugh more to think about.
Yeah, I'm still sticking with the original set up for the Annotations, but there are some weird bits. A possibility is that we are the VOYEUR, and Vince is none of the above?
As for the baby, I have no clue. I am planting trees! It is all I can doooo.

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lunaticfish wrote:

theories~


I think you're right about Vin having supposed to die first. In 'Jessie', The Rake attacks Vin. That's a time when he could have (was supposed to?) die. And then in the Corenthal Connection, Slendy causes Vin (and only Vin) to cough up the black ash gunk. I think that's Vin being 'marked' as the first to die in accordance to the cycle.

When Jeff was being chased by The Rake in 'Jessie' after leading it away from Vince, Slends stopped him from getting killed, right? The reason for this could be that Jeff was supposed to die second, and Slendy is the one controlling the cycle and making sure everything goes as smoothly and according to plan as it can.

But Jeff is kidnapped by HABIT, and then dies first. During his time as HABIT's kidnappee, Slendy seems to be going after Vin and taking a more active role in attacking him. In 'The Property', Corenthal saves Vin by taking him to the Sanctuary, where Slends can't get him. Assuming Corenthal is inHABITED, why would he save Vin from Slendy? Then, after Jeff is killed, Slendy sends his proxies after HABIT. I think that's a warning to HABIT, to stop screwing around with the cycle, or maybe even to collect the baby from him. We know HABIT and Slendy have worked together in the past, and that HABIT has collected children for Slends in the past, but I think HABIT too wants to break free from the cycle- and win- and to do this, he's intentionally changing things up.

"You really think that you can just.. tell all of us what to do, and we'll do it. They might, maybe. But me, not so much, chuckles."

I think that's HABIT talking to Slendy about the cycle, and how he isn't going to play along this time (do what Slendy wants) and the 'us' he refers to is everyone involved with the cycle

I think the baby is leverage in this, somehow. Wasn't it once theorized that the purpose of the Seven Trials was for HABIT to escape the cycle since it's pretty clear he's stuck in it too? I'm still not sure how the trials tie into everything, but I think the baby is going to be the key to breaking the cycle. That would explain why both the candleverse guys and HABIT want to protect it.

I don't know, I'm just putting out some theories. The idea that Vin was supposed to die first does go against the Everyman play cycle notes, unless you don't agree with the Firebrand/Evan Guardian/Jeff Voyeur/Vin roles. And Slendy seems to pick up Jeff alright in Next. But I really do think the baby plays a role in stopping the cycle, rather than (or maybe in the act of) becoming the perfect vessel for HABIT. If the baby's slenderproof and not in the cycle, wouldn't that be a way for HABIT to break it? Again, just helping out with the botany.

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Is this series even worth watching? I've tried so many times to watch it, and it just bores the hell out of me.

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thatbeastaroundthecorner wrote:
Is this series even worth watching? I've tried so many times to watch it, and it just bores the hell out of me.


Everyman HYBRID isn't the scariest in my opinion, and does get confusing, but it's very well-written and I think it's worth checking out for the story, which is actually pretty fun to piece together. I think it's worth watching.

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If we're seriously going to answer that question, if you don't like it, it is obviously not worth watching.

Edit: Oh, it just occurred to me, if we're going to start seeing dead characters return as mysterious ghostly versions of themselves (a la Nick & Alex), we might be seeing Jessa again, since her disappearance was kind of a big deal early on.

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