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[Unfamous]

Based on the contents of Box 5 and various other evidence through the series, my personal belief is the traditional view of the Everyman Prophecy (Evan=Firebrand, Jeff=Guardian, Vin=Voyeur, We=Everyman) in lieu of more convincing evidence otherwise. HOWEVER, while I find it interesting to discuss such things and possibilities, I fail to see the true relevance of deciphering who is what in one particular (self fulfilling?) prophecy we all but know was left to us by HABIT. So far as I am concerned, I have come to the conclusion that it is really a moot point if Vinny is the Voyeur, the Guardian, or the Everyman. There are four roles to be had, and four candidates we can give them to (Whose to say in previous cycles, if you accept that theory, that the roles aren't scrambled and rearranged?). Whatever name we chose to give the actors in this little play, it changes little of our understanding or ability to aid them. A rose by any other name is just as sweet.

I think if we are to arrive at any revelations concerning the Everymanhybrid we need to get past this kind of surface level problem and look at it from a somewhat deeper level. What are the consequences of any given actor actually holding a given role (be it Evan, Jeff, Vin, or us)? Why IS this baby important? Why are only the fates of four characters described by the Everyman prophecy when considerably more seem to exist within the cycle, assuming you accept this theory (Why aren't Dr. Corenthal, Ms. Corenthal, or Steph taken into consideration?). Why do we seem to balance the entirety of our understanding on this (self fulfilling?) prophecy?

Planting more trees.

Also, random tree: What if HABIT is using the baby as some kind of leverage or tool against Evan? Assuming the Everyman Prophecy is true and lays out the basis of what is SUPPOSED to happen for the cycle to continue repeating, maybe he is threatening Evan that if he tries to resist him in the slightest he will kill the baby. Maybe the baby is HABIT's way of preventing Evan's self-immolation...

[Lithp]

Okay, it's almost 4 in the morning, & I barely pay attention to this prophecy thing, but what if Steph is the Everyman?

Steph is the only "main character" not represented in the prophecy. And in Habit's notes, he says, "You too are on the same. Sinking. Vessel." That implies that we, the audience, are involved, but not any of the prophecy characters. And on Steph's card, her face is scratched out, so you could say that she is faceless, that we can fill her face in with anyone's, that she represents a nameless person.

Like pretty much anything about the Prophecy or Cycles, I don't think that really solves any practical problem regarding the Terrible Trio. But it might be useful in predicting what comes next, if true.

[Ouroborus]

regarding the Everyman Cycle-

I'm not 100% sure if it's something that Habit is aware of and believes...or if it's something he's manufacturing. It's Habit who has handed out these parts and has supplied us with the scripts. Is he the director or just a role?

And that's what gets me. What is Habit's end game? Why play nice-nice with Slendy and do his dirty work? From what he's told us, Habit doesn't necessarily need Slendy for his "fun" It'd just be /messier/

[Unfamous]

[TheCake]

Yeah, Habit is definitely an unreliable narrator, which definitely can be a problem since not only is that where we're getting most of our info about the cycles, but most of the videos now too. I mean, we do know for sure that he can actually possess people (Nick) but other than that, who knows how many of his tales are real or bullshit.

Assuming he really WAS all the serial killers and has the influence he claims to have, like Unfamous says, he doesn't mention Evan or any of the others in these stories. This doesn't necessarily mean though that the cycle wasn't going on at the time- he tweeted that he was in Egypt, and we know he can posses multiple people. It's possible everyone existed in 1880's for Jack the Ripper, and then again in the 50's for Gein, in different iterations of the cycle.

But he was also in the Candleverse in -.-., which makes me think maybe he's tied to Evan in some way, like if Evan dies, he does too?

We don't know Habit's reasons for working with Slendy. Like you said, it seems like he'd rather not work with him, so then he's either 1) In a mutually beneficial relationship with him or 2) Is being blackmailed/forced to work with him. We know why Slendy needs Habit- to "break" the guys before he can take them- but it looks to me like Slendy has some sort of leverage over Habit that is making him act as Slendy's personal assassin, rather than just going around and killing/torturing whoever he wants to, whenever he wants to. How the trials and the baby fit into Habit's relationship with Slendy I have no idea.

[Jowayoh]

I don't even know why I just thought of this, and the thought alone is terrifying, but imagine if Slendy was HABIT's perfect vessel. Just imagine that for a second whilst I go pee my pants some more.

[Malckeor]

[Unfamous]

Im going to try and email Vinny to ask him what he knows about Evan's parents and family, particularly his relationship with his father. I doubt he will respond, but I just have a hunch I'm curious to look into...

[THmanslayr]

[Lumine]

I dunno if this has been pointed out yet but

[Unfamous]

At least now we know the hat "Death proof" is actually what we speculated it to mean. Also, who is wearing it? HABvan seems to be holding him in a chokehold to the right, making it impossible for his head to be there. Maybe its the cameraman hidden in Jeff's shadow and they posed for the picture holding the (currently) dead body with the shot on those timer things that let cameramen get in the picture with the rest of a group. Or they just balanced it on something nearby. I have no idea why this is relevant, just random thoughts. Maybe if it is the cameraman someone could edit the picture and look for hints of someone squatting there under/beside Jeff.

[Lithp]

Yeah, HABIT has a thing for ironic callbacks. The music that was playing during those scenes was also a warped version of the track from the very first EMH video.

[ChildOfAtom]

Okay guys.

Take it over here:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=980159#980159