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[TTA] Surveillance
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aarvens
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 		I've decided that the codes at the end of the video cannot be deciphered yet.

We're missing the KEY.

Remember the code in TTA's Program we could only solve after getting the KEY for TTA's Advocate?

This has to be the same thing.


Or better yet, mix this idea with continue on backwards, maybe the KEY is in a past TTA video.

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BlackMoon
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 		Holy... This video made me come back. AWESOME! I think it's my favorite now, really liked... Everything about it!

So, um... Jessica Hoody? Jessica Masky 2.0? I don't know what to think!
Ok, reading the topic now.

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pokerowan
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aarvens wrote:
I've decided that the codes at the end of the video cannot be deciphered yet.

We're missing the KEY.

Remember the code in TTA's Program we could only solve after getting the KEY for TTA's Advocate?

This has to be the same thing.


Or better yet, mix this idea with continue on backwards, maybe the KEY is in a past TTA video.


In that case, the description could mean that we have to 'continue on', as in, wait for the next TTA videos to come out so we can get the key, but remember to look 'backwards' in order to solve it.

...Whatever 'it' is, haha.

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EmeraldWind
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twistedpuppet wrote:
Because of the way you guys had to re-arrange the letters after you deciphered them, I have my doubts that you have actually decoded the message. Don't most ciphers become completely clear once you crack the key? You guys had to change the letters around to get it to make sense. That leads me to believe it has not been decoded.


What are you talking about?

Are you talking about the cypher in the video's description?

Because that one is very clear, just backwards. Which I don't think constitutes rearranging the letters because reversing a phrase and cyphering it is a very common technique. (I would only consider it rearranging the letters if the letters weren't in order or scrambled.)

If your talking about the cypher in the video... nobody has claimed to have found a solution yet.

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WheresMyARGs
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 		I didn't even notice this video's release until today. YES MORE MH/TTA STUFF.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I see any "S" on the TV, as some people say they see it. Maybe it's a branch's reflection on the TV. The "S" hasn't made an appearance in TTA videos since (I believe) Advocate, so I doubt it's there, unless they're trying to make more throwbacks/references OOG.

As for the code...
If nobody has gotten it yet, I don't think it's going to be of much use now. I like the theory that it's using a "KEY" like Program/Advocate, because among all of the throwbacks made in this season, that maybe the most elaborate to date.
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ydna
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 		"Maybe they don't know where she is either?"
The last two Jay's tweets were about Jessica and the last TTA video. The video is called Surveillance and there's the message "sees now". Maybe Jay is wrong and TTA is actually trying to say they know about Jessica. Or maybe this is just an indication of her relevance in the next events.

Anyway, I tried to put those 5s and 2s into my phone and I got this:
Code:
b5ajckaajcjbjc

Doesn't seem to be meaningful, but something about the way it sounds bothers me.

In a keypad, Jessica translates into 5377422. Could be relevant, somehow. Maybe a key?

EDIT: Also, maybe we dismissed simple decimal ASCII too quickly.
Code:
O K S ESCAPE H H CANCEL
S K D CARRIAGE RETURN S ESCAPE O

D S 9 D CANCEL S
O O S 9 K 9

Treated backwards:
Code:
* ESCAPE ESCAPE H & 9 a
a H & UNIT SEPARATOR V 9

& * V K & V
K 9 K N a a

The numbers that do not represent letters may still matter, if you use their literal meaning like this.

From this we can extract something like "Operator Key Search, Escape Haunted House/Hospital (or HH could be a train track?) Cancel Search, Key Delivery Carriage, Return Search, Escape Operator" or anything of the sort. It's a stretch, but we do not have any good theories. Also, since there seems to be a mystery "S" around...

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SaferSaturnX
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LBfly wrote:
Also, about the code, if you subtract the numbers in their pairs you would get

2 2 5 5 5 5 2
5 2 2 2 5 5 2

2 5 2 2 2 2
2 2 5 2 2 2

That's another interesting coincidence.

I don't know if people noticed, but there's an error in this set of numbers. The last 2 in the third line should be a 5. As a matter of fact, Baras seemed to have noticed this, but he didn't post it as a correction (not sure if he noticed the discrepancy).

Baras wrote:

I also noticed that if you add the number of fives you get:

2255552 = 4
5222552 = 3
252225 = 2
225222 = 1

Maybe we have things really backwards and the second two lines are first?


So, like Baras pointed out, the real set of 2s and 5s is as follows:

2255552
5222552
252225
225222

You could try binary on that if you haven't already, but I'm thinking Baras got it on the mark with the 4-3-2-1 part. I think it's just a countdown.

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LBfly
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SaferSaturnX wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Also, about the code, if you subtract the numbers in their pairs you would get

2 2 5 5 5 5 2
5 2 2 2 5 5 2

2 5 2 2 2 2
2 2 5 2 2 2

That's another interesting coincidence.

I don't know if people noticed, but there's an error in this set of numbers. The last 2 in the third line should be a 5. As a matter of fact, Baras seemed to have noticed this, but he didn't post it as a correction (not sure if he noticed the discrepancy).

Baras wrote:

I also noticed that if you add the number of fives you get:

2255552 = 4
5222552 = 3
252225 = 2
225222 = 1

Maybe we have things really backwards and the second two lines are first?


So, like Baras pointed out, the real set of 2s and 5s is as follows:

2255552
5222552
252225
225222

You could try binary on that if you haven't already, but I'm thinking Baras got it on the mark with the 4-3-2-1 part. I think it's just a countdown.


I havent noticed that, thank you. Im on vacation since 5th of December so i think my math skills drowned with my classes haha. I tried subtracting the numbers in each column, it would be like this:

3033000
033003

Dividing it by 3, it could mean somethin in binary. But it doesnt; i checked. Its kind of a stretch so i didnt go any further.

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Baras
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 		I did notice but I'm not really a point out you did something wrong kind of guy, even if I probably should.

I did try binary but it didn't go anywhere for me, getting probably the same results as LBfly. Someone better with that type of thing may be able to take it further though.

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Hazman
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 		I'm joining the party a bit late but,
SaferSaturnX wrote:
LBfly wrote:
Also, about the code, if you subtract the numbers in their pairs you would get

2 2 5 5 5 5 2
5 2 2 2 5 5 2

2 5 2 2 2 2
2 2 5 2 2 2

That's another interesting coincidence.

I don't know if people noticed, but there's an error in this set of numbers. The last 2 in the third line should be a 5. As a matter of fact, Baras seemed to have noticed this, but he didn't post it as a correction (not sure if he noticed the discrepancy).

Baras wrote:

I also noticed that if you add the number of fives you get:

2255552 = 4
5222552 = 3
252225 = 2
225222 = 1

Maybe we have things really backwards and the second two lines are first?


So, like Baras pointed out, the real set of 2s and 5s is as follows:

2255552
5222552
252225
225222

You could try binary on that if you haven't already, but I'm thinking Baras got it on the mark with the 4-3-2-1 part. I think it's just a countdown.


I threw the '2's and '5's into an ASCII translator and got more numbers '44777' I thought the 777 part was interesting but I don't think it's going anywhere

EDIT:
Oh god, just threw 44777 into hex and it came back Dw. Laughing Is TTA trolling us now?

EDIT:
Scrap that idea. Nothing works.

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Frazzles
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DaturaStramonium wrote:
TheManPF wrote:
The red scene with the hand reaching the camera in the first few seconds of the video... am I the only one who remembered the red scene in entry 65? The one where Tim's screaming?


Jesus Christ, why did you have to go ahead and remind me of that horrifying occurrence this late at night ? Crying or Very sad

This definitely is a possibility, though the implications of Hoody owning this footage are so grandiose that I'm inclined to think otherwise.


Hoody having that footage would only mean that he watches Jay's channel and knows how to operate a Youtube video ripper.

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DaturaStramonium
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Frazzles wrote:


Hoody having that footage would only mean that he watches Jay's channel and knows how to operate a Youtube video ripper.


You misinterpreted the conversation. We're referring to owning not the screaming scene specifically, but the "hand" scene at the beginning of Surveillance, which, in the universe, occurred at the exact 'event' of the screaming scene we refer to as the 'red scene', or perhaps more accurately the red occurrence. As in, this is extra footage of the red scene that Jay didn't have.

And to clarify, if it wasn't understood, the entire Marble Hornets channel doesn't have the 'hand scene' anywhere on it.

That's what makes the nightmarish hallway run from the Operator and hand scene so intriguing from this video, as well as all of the custom footage Hoody has shown of the Operator, as the fact that it is either old footage from someone else or footage Hoody has taken himself leaves one with additionally strong implications.

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operated9
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 		Progress on deciphering the numbers - request for more brain assistance!

Something stands out among the two sets of numbers:

Code:

7 9 7 5*8 3 2 7 7*2 7 2 2 4
8 3 7 5 6 8 1 3*8 3 2 7 7*9

6 8*8 3 5 7*6 8 2 4 8 3
7 9 7 9*8 3 5 7*7 5 5 7


c-o-n-t-i-n-u-e-on suggests "moving forward" and is is 10 digits long.

Imagine the top line of each set as a continuous loop, and push the bottom line forward 10 digits:

Code:

7975832772722479758327727224
__________83756813832779

688357682483688357682483
__________797983577557


83277 and 8357.

I've had a quick look at translating these values into letters, but no obvious answer yet. However, it is likely that this realignment provides a key to interpreting the entire chain of numbers.

Personally, I prefer to sleep. So I now deposit this clue at your cunning finger tips Wink

Good luck. (And please resolve this cipher soon - it's all I've been able to think about this year!)

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DemanusFlint
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 		it is incredible what people will refer to as "progress"

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Blank_Zero
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DemanusFlint wrote:
it is incredible what people will refer to as "progress"


Agreed.

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