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Me168
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granitemoth88 wrote:
or maybe "permanence" is a key? That seems like a very odd word to use, and somewhat out of place in the context.


Not nessicarily true. In my opinion, with the word "Permanence" Meaning "the condition or quality of being permanent; perpetual or continued existence." I think it is saying that totheark has always been involved, even before Jay got involved (With the scene on the TV being Entry 3), or Hoody has always been involved, pointing to the theory that totheark is a group of people....

I Don't know, my opinion

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Abalone
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Earlier today, i tried a Vigniere-type grid approach to the paired number sets and using the pairs of numbers as coordinates (79= 7 down, 9 left) on the grid... Have tried using a 9 x 9 grid with just about every imaginable combination of forward alphabet, backward alphabet, filling it with "continue on" forward and backward, and also using partial alphabets... Nothing. Just putting it out here in case someone else is doing the same thing. Now you don't have to waste your time. At least we have the "each number might represent more than one letter bit to help us.

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MthsLadeira
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Patterns
One (probably) important pattern in the numbers

Maybe this wil help: the pairs are not any pairs of numbers but a defined sequence. For example, 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79, 75... those numbers differ in two units, which may lead to something about their position somewhere (like the keyboard). About 27, 83 and 72, they also differ in one defined quantity, which is 5. Their order may mean the direction you must go, i don't know... Suggestions?

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Me168
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Re: Patterns
One (probably) important pattern in the numbers

MthsLadeira wrote:
Maybe this wil help: the pairs are not any pairs of numbers but a defined sequence. For example, 13, 24, 35, 57, 68, 79, 75... those numbers differ in two units, which may lead to something about their position somewhere (like the keyboard). About 27, 83 and 72, they also differ in one defined quantity, which is 5. Their order may mean the direction you must go, i don't know... Suggestions?



I do like the way you presented the numbers and facts, but are you saying this could help us spell out something, or is it for GPS location for a place. Either way you are so far correct about that fact.

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TheNarrator
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didn't jay say that not all of the letters are used? what if we just tried the old method of take a letter out and try that one code that someone used up there. Ah, it was Blank_zero's.

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DemanusFlint
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i'm interested now in the idea of coordinates—(7,9) (7,5) (8,3) etc—since it could explain why it's missing 0. not sure of the significance of the mirror pairs, though.

haha i like the implication that he's figured out every other TTA code on his own though

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DemanusFlint
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i'm also unsure what his latest tweet means:
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Two of the pairs are mirrors and are grouped together twice. 27-72 and 57-75. Not sure what that could mean yet though. Common letters?
isn't 57-75 present three times?

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Me168
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DemanusFlint wrote:
i'm interested now in the idea of coordinates—(7,9) (7,5) (8,3) etc—since it could explain why it's missing 0. not sure of the significance of the mirror pairs, though.

haha i like the implication that he's figured out every other TTA code on his own though


What about if you flip the coordinates numbers if this is something we could look at [ EX. (7,9) to (9,7) .... (7,5) to (5,7)

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MDS1138
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Blankzero's method made me think of something else - we're assuming now that numbers can represent multiple letters (and for the purpose of this post, "number"=a pair)... but, can the same letter be represented by different numbers (as his method suggests)? Or is a letter exclusive to a number (e.g. 83 is E or T, and no other number can represent those letters)? Do only the "mirrored" numbers share common letters? I hope this makes sense.

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kralyk
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I really don't think one specific number = one specific letter. I've substituted each unique number for a letter and ran it through a dictionary-based substitution cipher cracker only to find gibberish.

It's not that straigh-forward. A number is not tightly bound to a letter.

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Me168
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Could we add the Mirror part and have numbers flip and become letters, like 3 becomes E, I don't know, I'm probably going to go to bed and wait to see if Jay posts anything for tomorrow.

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kralyk
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Got something, although it's probably a random thing...

When you combine the two rows in each set using the One-time pad cipher (modulo-add 26), you get:

"guvozvz rgkvvk"

A substituion cipher cracker yielded this substition: g=a, u=m, v=e, o=n, z=d, r=c, k=r

Using which I obtained:

"amended career"

Which is probably not the solution, but I had fun... Very Happy

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Mehetabel
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"amended career"? Well, Tim did say he was worried about his job...

I dunno. Makes more sense than anything we've seen so far.
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Oxide
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I think I'm done for now.
Just want to say this is my first time trying this group solving thing, and it's been pretty fun. Thanks, people.

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DemanusFlint
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kralyk wrote:
Using which I obtained:

"amended career"

Which is probably not the solution, but I had fun... Very Happy


p sure this definitely isn't it but it's notable for being the first intelligible result, good job there

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