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Magyk
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A lot of what we knew was speculation, but a lot of it was correct speculation. While this was confirmation, it sure as hell didn't feel like we learned anything new. Because, well, we really didn't learn that much new information. Like I said, I enjoyed the entry - but if you're saying it wasn't predominately filler you're just kidding yourself.

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Viewers who don't come here and don't follow the twitter or something awful or other sources like that, did learn something new. This is how the main channel is designed. You can watch the series, from the beginning to the most recent entries and not only keep up with what is going on, but understand it too. Try looking at it that way. The narrative needed 66 to happen even if you think it didn't because you are a hardcore fan who seeks out places like unfiction. You keep forgetting that the majority of those subscribers on youtube do not know about this place and do not care to come here.

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We've talked about this before, and I do not subscribe to the "Twitter and TTA don't matter at all" way of thinking, so lets not even go into it.

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Magyk wrote:
We've talked about this before, and I do not subscribe to the "Twitter and TTA don't matter at all" way of thinking, so lets not even go into it.


Not even when the creators specifically state such? Wow. talk about delusional. And you called me a child.

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That has nothing to do with my opinion. They may say that TTA and the Twitter feed are designed not to be integral to the story, but that doesn't mean that they are successful - especially depending on one's definition of "integral to the story."

If I didn't follow the twitter or watch ToTheArk videos, I don't think I'd know even 50% of what the fuck was going on. By my own personal definition, those pieces of the "game" are required.

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Magyk wrote:
That has nothing to do with my opinion. They may say that TTA and the Twitter feed are designed not to be integral to the story, but that doesn't mean that they are successful - especially depending on one's definition of "integral to the story."

If I didn't follow the twitter or watch ToTheArk videos, I don't think I'd know even 50% of what the fuck was going on. By my own personal definition, those pieces of the "game" are required.


So you are overruling what is basically word of god because you don't like it. You do realize this isn't your project, right? Please tell me you haven't slipped that far into insanity.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Magyk wrote:
That has nothing to do with my opinion. They may say that TTA and the Twitter feed are designed not to be integral to the story, but that doesn't mean that they are successful - especially depending on one's definition of "integral to the story."

If I didn't follow the twitter or watch ToTheArk videos, I don't think I'd know even 50% of what the fuck was going on. By my own personal definition, those pieces of the "game" are required.


So you are overruling what is basically word of god because you don't like it. You do realize this isn't your project, right? Please tell me you haven't slipped that far into insanity.


Where did I overrule their word? You can believe it if you want. I'm entitled to my own opinion. In that opinion, I do not find that they are successful at in separating the "extra" forms of media from the main youtube channel in the manner which they are attempting. It's not a denial of their attempt, it's an opinion of their execution.

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Suddenly plot advancement is all that matters. When did that happen? What about season 1, which cemented the show's popularity? Wasn't the first half of that just tape after tape of Alex being followed by a thing and acting weird around peeps? It's not just about advancing the plot, it's also about establishing a mood. Tim's badass delivery of that monologue, and what it implied in the turning point of Jay's and Tim's partnership, is part of what made this entry so good. Like I've said, it had the elements we've come to expect from Marble Hornets entries. No, it was not filler, unless you ignore the importance of every aspect aside from plot advancement, which the entry had anyway.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
Suddenly plot advancement is all that matters. When did that happen? What about season 1, which cemented the show's popularity? Wasn't the first half of that just tape after tape of Alex being followed by a thing and acting weird around peeps? It's not just about advancing the plot, it's also about establishing a mood. Tim's badass delivery of that monologue, and what it implied in the turning point of Jay's and Tim's partnership, is part of what made this entry so good. Like I've said, it had the elements we've come to expect from Marble Hornets entries. No, it was not filler, unless you ignore the importance of every aspect aside from plot advancement, which the entry had anyway.


QFT

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Magyk
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Filler, imo, is anything that can be ignored without missing any pertinent information. Most of what Tim said was already known, so as I said above, this entry was about 13 minutes of filler capped off with Jay finding that new tape - the only real plot advancement.

Didn't think it was a bad entry, enjoyed it, but I think it was predominately filler.

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Magyk wrote:
Filler, imo, is anything that can be ignored without missing any pertinent information.


I can understand that, but in the case of MH, there goes most of the series, especially season 1.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
Magyk wrote:
Filler, imo, is anything that can be ignored without missing any pertinent information.


I can understand that, but in the case of MH, there goes most of the series, especially season 1.


Sometimes series feature a lot of filler (I know twisted mentioned DBZ, and other and other manga earlier) or very little filler (LOST, 24). Marble Hornets seems to fall somewhere in the middle, I'd say. Each season has had a very different and distinct feel compared to the others.

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You and others have called pretty much every entry since the beginning of season 3 as filler, even when it's clearly not filler. Your judgement has been off for a while.

I'm beginning to see that the guy who pointed out earlier about the impossibly high expectations is right. I want to say it was pravado that point that out.

All of you calling this entry filler have standards that are too high for even the best professional made work. I don't know what the hell you are expecting, but maybe you should take a step back and take in the bigger picture. Your accusations of filler are bullshit and most definitely not constructive criticism.

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I don't think I've ever called another entry filler before. I welcome you to try and prove me wrong, though.

I don't see how you can say my expectations were too high, when I've said at least three or four times that I liked and enjoyed the entry. I thought it was a good entry, but it was mostly filler.

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Geneaux486
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Thing is it isn't even higher expectations, just different ones. People enjoy the show for different reasons, so it makes sense that not everyone wlll be pleased. Just seems a little strange that so many people are vexed by the supposed lack of plot advancement when Marble Hornets was never a mad dash to the end in the first place. Advancement has always been one of many aspects of the show that make it great. Emotion, character development, suspense, discovery, and even plot advancement, entry 66 had.

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