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RandomH-bomb
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The idea of the townspeople being aware of The Operator, at the very least in the form of old ghost stories and urban legends, reminds me of how that antique store Jay was investigating contained lots of old cameras and vaguely creepy paintings of wooded areas.

I REALLY want to know what the significance of that antique store was. They devoted about a month's worth of tweets to Jay investigating it; surely it had some importance.

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RandomH-bomb wrote:
The idea of the townspeople being aware of The Operator, at the very least in the form of old ghost stories and urban legends, reminds me of how that antique store Jay was investigating contained lots of old cameras and vaguely creepy paintings of wooded areas.

I REALLY want to know what the significance of that antique store was. They devoted about a month's worth of tweets to Jay investigating it; surely it had some importance.


Maybe Tim worked there and the owner knew he had...emotional problems and didn't reveal it to Jay out of respect for Tim.

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I really doubt the antique store is important in any real way simply because Jay didn't film himself investigating it. So far the entries stand 100% on their own with tweets and TTA videos pretty much just being supplemental stuff to tide over fans. If it was meant to have some significance then it would probably have had more than just a passing inclusion in 52 and 53.

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RandomH-bomb
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BranRainey wrote:
I really doubt the antique store is important in any real way simply because Jay didn't film himself investigating it. So far the entries stand 100% on their own with tweets and TTA videos pretty much just being supplemental stuff to tide over fans. If it was meant to have some significance then it would probably have had more than just a passing inclusion in 52 and 53.


Jay actually DID briefly film himself investigating it early in Entry #53. He filmed the outside of the building, peering in the windows with his camera. And then he talks to the antique shop lady who tells him that Tim "sometimes comes in when he's looking for his...says he has a doctors appointment."

That and the large number of tweets dedicated to Jay lurking around outside, and even sneaking in and taking pictures and hiding from the suspicious delivery man, seems to indicate that there's some significance to that place that's worth devoting time to.

Of course, the shop was closing down for good, so who knows, maybe it was just a red herring to keep us occupied while we waited for new entries.

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If somebody wants to believe it's an origin story in spite of what the creators say, let them. Creative works are up for interpretation and sometimes what the creator says doesn't coincide with what the viewer wants to believe.


No one is forcing him to believe anything, but he is putting forward a competing theory, it doesn't make sense not to counter that challenge, especially when the existing theory is so strong.

That said, I'm starting to think that the antique store might be a way of hinting that Rosswood has been dealing with The Operator for a while. Tim apparently bought his painting from there, which was implied to be related to The Operator in some way.

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I'm all for discussion Serum, I just normally don't take part. I was just mentioning the facts for those who didn't know, since a few were stating that it could still be an origin story, and still are. If you want to be exact with the information we have, slenderman was not created by the people getting strung out in trees. The story could mean literally anything else but that. He could have been attracted to the murders, the trees rapid growth might come up in a later entry, the "masks" could have been created from these trees, or he could have crash landed in an alien spaceship. Anything, but the story wasn't depicting slendermans birth.

If you want my opinion I could definitely see it as a local myth, created to scare children away from the woods where slenderman hangs out a lot. No one knows that's the true reason for the tail anymore of course. They just think of it as a scary campfire story.

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RandomH-bomb wrote:
The idea of the townspeople being aware of The Operator, at the very least in the form of old ghost stories and urban legends, reminds me of how that antique store Jay was investigating contained lots of old cameras and vaguely creepy paintings of wooded areas.

I REALLY want to know what the significance of that antique store was. They devoted about a month's worth of tweets to Jay investigating it; surely it had some importance.


I was just thinking about this the other day. I really like the idea that the cameras were all from others who have gone through similar experiences. Which is really chilling when you wonder why they don't have their camera anymore.

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Wubblz wrote:
RandomH-bomb wrote:
The idea of the townspeople being aware of The Operator, at the very least in the form of old ghost stories and urban legends, reminds me of how that antique store Jay was investigating contained lots of old cameras and vaguely creepy paintings of wooded areas.

I REALLY want to know what the significance of that antique store was. They devoted about a month's worth of tweets to Jay investigating it; surely it had some importance.


I was just thinking about this the other day. I really like the idea that the cameras were all from others who have gone through similar experiences. Which is really chilling when you wonder why they don't have their camera anymore.


Now I'm imagining people, over the years, repeatedly finding old discarded cameras in Rosswood Park, the footage on them too damaged to be playable.

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RandomH-bomb wrote:
Wubblz wrote:
RandomH-bomb wrote:
The idea of the townspeople being aware of The Operator, at the very least in the form of old ghost stories and urban legends, reminds me of how that antique store Jay was investigating contained lots of old cameras and vaguely creepy paintings of wooded areas.

I REALLY want to know what the significance of that antique store was. They devoted about a month's worth of tweets to Jay investigating it; surely it had some importance.


I was just thinking about this the other day. I really like the idea that the cameras were all from others who have gone through similar experiences. Which is really chilling when you wonder why they don't have their camera anymore.


Now I'm imagining people, over the years, repeatedly finding old discarded cameras in Rosswood Park, the footage on them too damaged to be playable.


Wow, that could be an entirely different series... Just strange footage of other people who have encountered the Operator over the last couple decades.

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Serum wrote:
RandomH-bomb wrote:
Wubblz wrote:
RandomH-bomb wrote:
The idea of the townspeople being aware of The Operator, at the very least in the form of old ghost stories and urban legends, reminds me of how that antique store Jay was investigating contained lots of old cameras and vaguely creepy paintings of wooded areas.

I REALLY want to know what the significance of that antique store was. They devoted about a month's worth of tweets to Jay investigating it; surely it had some importance.


I was just thinking about this the other day. I really like the idea that the cameras were all from others who have gone through similar experiences. Which is really chilling when you wonder why they don't have their camera anymore.


Now I'm imagining people, over the years, repeatedly finding old discarded cameras in Rosswood Park, the footage on them too damaged to be playable.


Wow, that could be an entirely different series... Just strange footage of other people who have encountered the Operator over the last couple decades.
There could be your related spin-off/sequel.

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I don't buy that the town is "aware" of the Operator in any sense. If that were true, you'd have two problems with the story:

First, that would mean that the Operator's activity has been far more prevalent than we are being led to believe. If that were the case, the town would likely be deserted, either because everyone is dead or had run away.

Secondly, it would take away from the entire horror aspect. If the Operator were just an entity that showed up once and a while to creep people out but were otherwise harmless, it would become something of a town legend and not something to be frightened of.

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Lithp
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I don't really see your first complaint. All we know is that The Operator hangs out in Rosswood Park, but occasionally ventures out to torment Alex, Jay, Hoody, & anyone connected to them. It's impossible, from that, to say the extent of the shenanigans he gets up to in Rosswood. Maybe he's responsible for occasional disappearances. Maybe he became a forgotten page of history once the town stopped sacrificing people to him, if indeed that ever happened.

I do see your 2nd complaint, but there are 2 caveats:

1. Like I mentioned above, The Operator isn't necessarily harmless to Rosswood, just because he hasn't destroyed it.

2. I'd hate to say it, but The Operator is kind of already a harmless entity that just shows up once in a while to creep people out. That we've seen, it's killed MAYBE one person, indirectly, through Alex. It certainly put Tim through something traumatic, but there was no lasting physical damage.

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Lithp wrote:
2. I'd hate to say it, but The Operator is kind of already a harmless entity that just shows up once in a while to creep people out. That we've seen, it's killed MAYBE one person, indirectly, through Alex. It certainly put Tim through something traumatic, but there was no lasting physical damage.


It's mental effects seem to be what make it most dangerous, aside from the fact that it can take people to weird water, nightime, forest realms. Fucked Jay up pretty good to in the tape in 52.

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RandomH-bomb
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Lithp wrote:
2. I'd hate to say it, but The Operator is kind of already a harmless entity that just shows up once in a while to creep people out. That we've seen, it's killed MAYBE one person, indirectly, through Alex. It certainly put Tim through something traumatic, but there was no lasting physical damage.


It's mental effects seem to be what make it most dangerous, aside from the fact that it can take people to weird water, nightime, forest realms. Fucked Jay up pretty good to in the tape in 52.


Yeah, I feel like I should point out that TO probably could have done much worse to Tim if it had chosen to. I got the impression that Tim was tormented for a while and then released, rather than getting free on his own. He was at The Operator's mercy; if it had wanted him dead it could easily have killed him.

When it comes down to it, the horror of The Operator has always been in the implication of violence or trauma, rather than the proof of it. We don't need to explicitly see The Operator kill someone in order to assume that it can do so if it wishes.

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I don't find that scary, but that's not really the point.

The point is, The Operator basically has the same relationship to the MH Cast that Zarggg is concerned this theory would give it to the town.

Hell, I might argue that it already has that relationship with the town. Despite apparently living in the Rosswood area, it's only known to bother a handful of people. It stands to reason that Rosswood is a public park, so in theory, a ton of people must use it without any danger.

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