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My personal theory on Masky and Hoody
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Prince Cheddar
Kilroy

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 		My personal theory on Masky and Hoody
I think Masky(Tim) Hoodie(totheark) and Alex are all servants to The Operator. However, Alex is the favorite, the one who will experience "The Ark." Masky and Hoodie have an alliance to destroy Alex, but they can't do it directly because the Operator would punish them.

The two of them are working together, but each wants the top spot for themselves, so they don't trust each other and are willing to betray each other. totheark is helping Jay and non-masky Tim in order for them to stop Alex so he can become in line for the ark.

Can anyone see any obvious flaws in this?

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Lithp
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 		What exactly is it that they do for The Operator? What makes Alex the favorite?

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LBfly
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 		I dont see any flaws but I dont like it... Why do you think Masky and Hoody work for the Operator?

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Geneaux486
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LBfly wrote:
I dont see any flaws but I dont like it... Why do you think Masky and Hoody work for the Operator?


I could see them having done its bidding once upon a time at least. It's mostly in season 1, but Tim demonstrated an ability to lead and/or influence Jay numerous times into going through warp doors that would lead to Operator encounters. Really, he seemed a bit more methodical in his masked mode back then as opposed to the way he acts now. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that something about the nature of his relationship with the Operator changed between the events of seasons 1 and 2.

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 		I address this in my master reply to Entry #67. In short, I believe that Tim may have originally been a servant to the Operator, but that ended after Tim (directly or indirectly) led the Operator to Alex, who has been under the Operator's thumb for this entire series.

I see no reason to believe that Hoody has actually done anything for the Operator, and is simply a victim.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
LBfly wrote:
I dont see any flaws but I dont like it... Why do you think Masky and Hoody work for the Operator?


I could see them having done its bidding once upon a time at least. It's mostly in season 1, but Tim demonstrated an ability to lead and/or influence Jay numerous times into going through warp doors that would lead to Operator encounters. Really, he seemed a bit more methodical in his masked mode back then as opposed to the way he acts now. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that something about the nature of his relationship with the Operator changed between the events of seasons 1 and 2.
In exactly which moments of Season 1? I thought of it but all situations I could remind seemed kind of a stretch (is that how you call it, lol) I really cant see any action from Masky that would collaborate with the Operator, nor from Hoody.

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Geneaux486
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LBfly wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
LBfly wrote:
I dont see any flaws but I dont like it... Why do you think Masky and Hoody work for the Operator?


I could see them having done its bidding once upon a time at least. It's mostly in season 1, but Tim demonstrated an ability to lead and/or influence Jay numerous times into going through warp doors that would lead to Operator encounters. Really, he seemed a bit more methodical in his masked mode back then as opposed to the way he acts now. Wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say that something about the nature of his relationship with the Operator changed between the events of seasons 1 and 2.
In exactly which moments of Season 1? I thought of it but all situations I could remind seemed kind of a stretch (is that how you call it, lol) I really cant see any action from Masky that would collaborate with the Operator, nor from Hoody.


I don't remember the exact entry numbers, but the first major instance (also the least concrete of them) was the security footage of two nights after Jay's first encounter with Timime, when the latter was shown in Jay's room as he slept, followed by Jay getting up, going through his bedroom door, but not coming out the other side, at which point he was gone for several hours. Shortly thereafter, totheark posted footage of Jay in his same sleep clothes seated in a hallway, entranced, as the Operator walked into view. In a later entry, Timime lead Jay on a chase through various doors in the abandoned house, during which time Jay essentially warped from room to room as day changed to night in the blink of an eye. The final door Jay followed Tim through led him to that boiler room where he had another direct encounter with the Operator.

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 		Actually, if you subscribe to the logic that the Masky and Hoody personalities were "created" by whatever the Operator did to Tim and ?Brian?, then it logically follows that Masky!Tim's creepy behavior towards Jay in season one is similar to what Hoody has been doing on the ToTheArk channel as well as directly in season three.

Yes, I'm leaping to conclusions here, but based on my understanding, it makes sense that Masky and Hoody (the "fugue state" personas of Tim and ?Brian?, in other words) are both involved with the TTA channel, though lately it's just been Hoody.

(This is meant as a counter-argument against Masky working for the Operator in season one. However, it does agree with the theory that Masky was working for Hoody at that time.)

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marty13612
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 		Hello, I signed up just to say this. I have been working on a personal theory, and yours is somewhat similar to mine, so I thought now would be a good time to share.

The way I see it, there are 2 factions somewhat. The story started with just Alex and the cast. But once Alex was "sucked up" sometime in season 1 (When he dissapeared from his room) he must of joined the operator.

Alex and the operator are somewhat like a faction, where Alex is the Operator's minion. I feel he is doing his bidding currently whatever that maybe somewhere in the world. (Kind of a sub theory, but maybe the cast of MH stumbled upon something that the Operator didn't want them to see and they don't remember, but once your haunted, the operator never stops.)

The second faction is TTA. I feel they are in no way associated with slendy, but are actually working to try and stop him. They may be a cult of some kind. I think there is plenty of evidence that they are not with the operatore, like when they are scared of in the forest when masky and hoody were attacking Alex, and in this recent entry when the slenderman saved Alex from being shot. Also notice how Tim wakes up with his mask? I believe in the scene prior when beating up Alex he was in Masky mode. This would explain why he is cool with hoodie and doesnt question or attack him considering tim was ready with a pipe to attack hoodie just 2 entries ago.

So where does Jay fit in? Well I think Hoodie is actually trying to recruit Jay to try and help him with stopping Alex and OP. Notice how hoody never actually troubles Jay. He returned his camera, left tims medical files, lead Jay to tapes, and even left clues in his TTA videos. I believe the TTA videos were always hints directed to Jay somewhat, like "He's not who he says he is" in refrence to Tim I believe (That was paraphraising sorta). And lets assume Masky is with Hoody, that just further's the theory that they want to help Jay, when he saved him from being shot. I am also wondering if Jessica may be in this cult too, and Jay was just being played in Hotel, and maybe thats why Alex told Jay to bring her along with him to Rosswood. Maybe he knew she was against him.

So why would Hoody take Tim's meds you might ask? Well I think some people on here have discussed this already, but it probably was so that Jay and Tim could get back together, and continue getting to the bottom of everything.

I also think the reason Masky sort of attacked Jay the couple of times is just that he was guiding Jay in a weird way. In fact this is probably the biggest flaw of my theory. Why doesn't Hoody and masky straight up approach Jay and tell him that they want his help? I can't answer that.

I should probably rewrite this with proper entry refrences, but hopefully that was easy enough to follow.

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 		This is far fetched, but what if Hoody is hunting the Operator? The best way to do that would be to piss him off by following people like Tim and Alex around. Maybe Hoody wants to destroy the Operator, or even capture him.

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marty13612
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 		Yeah thats kind of what I was getting at in my theory. Hoody wants to stop the Operator, and wants Jay's help.

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LoudCapricorn
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 		Re: My personal theory on Masky and Hoody
Hmmm, I actually DO see Masky, not teamed up as much as allied with The Operator. In parts of season 1, at least. A specific instance of Masky and Tall, Dark and Featureless showing up together would be the Hotel. I don't think we have a proven explanation for both of them appearing there, simultaneously. Maybe Masky lead Good Ol' Lightbulb to Jay and Jessica? I like to think that he was there to warn them about TO. Or try and protect them. So, Masky may or may not have been associated with Mr Sansvisage, but, somewhere between seasons, his loyalty switched to Team Hoody. As for Hoody, there isn't much proof of him/her teaming with Slendy; there's much more proof of actively working against it. So it's like Hoody vs Lackface, with everyone else caught up in the crossfire, but everyone is actually connected to it, somehow. If we were to fast-forward into Entry #74, Skully shows up and it's actually Seth and Jessica returns with teleportation powers awakened, Alex is Ascended Into A Higher Plane Of Existance by The Slender Man, the Ark is actually the camera and Oppy just stands there. *typical MarbleHornets WHAM/BLAM episode*

I tried to be as creative as I could with names for the Faceless Entity I haven't had breakfast, English is not my first language and I woke up around 4AM from a very weird dream. DO NOT JUDGE ME.

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Kraehtot
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 		Re: My personal theory on Masky and Hoody
LoudCapricorn wrote:

I tried to be as creative as I could with names for the Faceless Entity I haven't had breakfast, English is not my first language and I woke up around 4AM from a very weird dream. DO NOT JUDGE ME.

I was actually thinking while reading your comment how creative you are with all those names you give TO Smile

Going back to the thread:
I think season 1 is the only one that could give the impression of Masky being the Operator's minion, but, I don't think so. Masky has not orthodox ways of doing things, he could have been just scaring Jay to prevent him from getting involved/leading him somehow or maybe he is simply agresive. Also, we've seen Masky helping Jay when he is in trouble whit the Operator or Alex, but if they encounter and the Operator is not in the surroundings he attacks him. Remember when Hoody took the pills from Tim's bedroom? Then Jay followed Tim and when he finally found him, Masky attacked.
And I don't really remember any evidence of Hoody working for the Operator but yes helping Jay (in his own obscure and creepy way).
I think 'teams' are like that:
1. Jay (alone, though I cannot really explain why).
2. Jay and Tim.
3. Hoddy (and Masky) = TTA.
4. TO (and Alex).
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 		Re: My personal theory on Masky and Hoody
Kraehtot wrote:

I 'teams' are like that:
1. Jay (alone, though I cannot really explain why).
2. Jay and Tim.
3. Hoddy (and Masky) = TTA.
4. TO (and Alex).

I can see Jay as a team on his own, I mean, he's alone in this from the start. Who's he gonna trust? Alex? Gun. Tim? Not really, no. They're more in an "enemy of my enemy" thing. They don't really trust each other. In retrospect, look at all the things Masky has done to Jay. And, again, we don't know who burned Jay's place down, Masky or Hoody. Which is why I'm inclined to believe Jessica might make a reappearance soon. She's been mentioned by TTA recently, just out of the blue. She could be alive. She could return. I started thinking that she could just pop out of Slenderland any time now. And she should. Maybe with Masky/Hoody's help?

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 		Re: My personal theory on Masky and Hoody
LoudCapricorn wrote:

I can see Jay as a team on his own, I mean, he's alone in this from the start. Who's he gonna trust? Alex? Gun. Tim? Not really, no. They're more in an "enemy of my enemy" thing. They don't really trust each other.


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