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[pravado]

We also still can't say for sure that it was Alex dragging Brian away at the end of 51, or that Alex even knew what was going to happen (plus, Tim wasn't there when Brian was being dragged, so where'd he go?). Same thing goes for Alex's trip with Seth.

He might have just kept those videos because they make him look like the bad guy. The only person we can say for sure that Alex hates and actively tried to harm was Tim, and that might be because Alex knew Tim was the reason things were happening to him. Whose to say Tim didn't go masky on Alex and sacrifice him first?

I'm starting to think Tim is the real villain, and is hiding big things from Jay. It might be possible that Hoody once thought Alex was the cause of everything, but slowly learned it was Tim's doing sometime after entry 45. Hoody still probably hates alex though, cause alex was probably the person who got him involved in things.

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[krareg]

Just had a thought, related to Alex perhaps not being a bad guy.

My memory is failing me here, but did we ever see TO near an operator symbol? If it keeps him at bay, maybe that's why Alex was trying to draw one with his foot. He could have been shouting not to attack him at least until he finished the symbol.

[Aeliott]

Not dismissing the theory, but regarding Alex and Hoody:

"IF I SEE YOU AGAIN I'LL KILL YOU!!!"

He seemed extremely pissed in that entry (I forget which #, the one where Hoody and Timasky assault him). I don't think it's out of the ordinary to see him shouting at them with such anger in this entry. What he's saying may still be relevant, and may end up supporting an anti-hero-Alex theory - but just saying that he's perfectly justified to be that pissed off in this situation even if he is the straightforward bad guy.

There's also Entry 52, where he pulls a gun on Jay. I'm pretty sure he would've pulled the trigger. Plus it's generally assumed that "bruce" was killed because Alex mistook him for Jay in his rage. Why would he lure Brian, Seth, etc? Are they just necessary sacrifices so he can gain TO's favour? Casualties for a better cause? And how would Tim's hugely implicit connection tie into this? Again, not shooting the theory down, just providing some food for thought.

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[TheOperator]

It would be interesting to find out that Alex still had a lot of good in him, perhaps by Jay ruining his plan to stop or delay The Operator later in the series. It's also a good point that since we know now that he had a gun on him and was also aware of Jay and Tim's locations, it wouldn't have been too difficult to just sneak up on them and shoot them. Although we're still not sure what exactly it is TO wants. He may not simply want Jay and Tim dead. Perhaps Alex was trying to find Tim at the hospital to keep him as a bargaining chip, rather than kill him.

[pravado]

Well I personally conclude two things from the series

1) The operator can't directly kill people. Either that, or he doesn't actually want Jay and Tim dead. He could have killed Jay in entries 52 and 60 easily, and could have killed tim in entry 65 easy. In entry 60 he just lets jay go, and in entry 65 he seems more like he wants to scare Tim by putting him in life threatening situations than actually wanting to kill him. It almost comes off as the operator actually doesn't want people to die, and just wants them to stay out of his affairs (which we don't even have a clue of what they are)

2) Countless times Alex could have killed Tim but instead just knocked him out and left him for the operator. It really seems like Alex's beef is strictly with Tim. For example, he knew about the MH channel in season 1 and didn't do anything to Jay, but when he saw Tim following Jay around and leading him out of his room towards the operator, he intervenes and uses Jay to get to Tim. Before he bashes Tim's leg, alex says "he won't be following US around anymore". This implies that Tim (and probably tta) were still onto alex way back in season 1. I have to wonder if Tim's masky mode would have never came back if Jay never took his pills away from him in entry 16 (or 18, don't remember).

I think we have to start analyzing older stuff to get a clue at newer things. Like it's fairly obvious whoever told Jay to go to the house in season 1 was luring him into the operator's grasp, probably to scare him into stopping his investigation. It was more than likely totheark based on the fact that he knew jay would be there and was filming him from behind. Alex saw these videos and I legit think he tried to help Jay with the maskies. I still want to think Alex is a good guy at heart.

My main reasoning for thinking he's not completely corrupt is that if Tim went through everything he's going through way before, and Tim turned out to be normal, why are we deeming Alex unsavable?

[pravado]

Also we can't assume Tim isn't conscious of his actions in masky mode. We like to assume he just goes apeshit and tries to harm people, but lets remember something. He goes to the hotel to find Jay and stop him from getting to the tapes. Whether that was to protect his identity that was revealed in entry 35 or not, he knew what he was doing. Same thing when he saves Jay and Jessica in entry 52. I think Tim remembers everything he does as Masky, or at the very least, Masky retains Tim's memory.

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[catgirl789]

I felt a major part of this entry was showing how much Hoody actually cares for Tim, or at least the Masky side of him. Hoody could've left him there to be taken by Alex, but instead hides him and really doesn't make any overt moves against Alex until Tim starts coughing.

It looked to me like Hoody wouldn't have really done anything to Alex if Tim wasn't put in danger.

@Pravado I like the idea that Alex is really after Tim and Jay is just caught up as collateral damage. It fits in with that one entry when Jay is literally pushed aside as Masky rushes at Alex. I feel that Season 2 Alex's behavior towards Jay is explained more as him getting rid of a nuisance than actually gunning for Jay.

[FalloutGhoul]

Now that I'm thinking about it, seeing Hoody dragging Tim away reminds me of Entry #51, when we see Brain getting dragged off by some unseen being.

I wonder if Hoody might have saved Brian by dragging him off, and then another question:
If that's true, then who IS Hoody?

[Teedub]

Tim and Jay finding this tape gives me a thought that never really crossed my mind until now. The hooded person obviously has something to do with ToTheArk, or may even be ToTheArk. The hooded person also seemed to have left the tape in that room for them to discover. Even though The Hooded Person wasn't an established character in Season 1, ToTheArk was. This would mean that The Hooded Person may have been the person that left the Entry #22 tape at the red tower back in Season 1, even though their debut wasn't until Entry #41. Now that I think about it, this person may be a lot of the explanation for some of the events of season 1. Since the hooded person has been implied to work with Tim while he is "Masky", maybe they were in the house from Season 1 with him and J the entire time? It's possible that the footage of J coughing on the floor in Entry #16 could have been The Hooded Person filming J, not Tim. And since Tim seemed to be in a pretty "normal" state of mind during the original "Marble Hornets" student film production, it's possible that the person recording in "Exit" (the ToTheArk video that was filmed during Entry #13, when J is going back to Alex's car to retrieve the spare battery) may have been the hooded person.

I don't know, just stuff that I was thinking about.

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