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[VIDEO] Entry 67
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Also we can't assume Tim isn't conscious of his actions in masky mode. We like to assume he just goes apeshit and tries to harm people, but lets remember something. He goes to the hotel to find Jay and stop him from getting to the tapes. Whether that was to protect his identity that was revealed in entry 35 or not, he knew what he was doing. Same thing when he saves Jay and Jessica in entry 52. I think Tim remembers everything he does as Masky, or at the very least, Masky retains Tim's memory.


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I'm still thinking that Masky is being directed by hoody. That he's like an ape/dog, following base instincts, but is decently intelligent. Like in this entry I feel like Tim wasn't attacking Alex until hoody gave him the go ahead. He was around the corner like that waiting for the signal to beat the hell out of Alex. Which could lead me to think that hoody did ask alex something, Alex wouldn't answer so he sicked Tim on him, the reason he hesitated with the gun was because he was doing the "I'll ask you one more time" cliche, however the operator saved him.

Masky appears to be capable of independent thought, but nothing overly complex. "I need my pills back, the guy with the camera took them, I'm gonna go get them from his house". Both instances in the season 1 house were perfect examples of fight or flight. The first time he couldn't run, so he tackled his way through Jay, second time he had an escape route.

Then there are times that could go either way. Like the hotel attack could've either been him trying to protect his own identity like you said, or hoody telling him to go get the tapes from the safe. Masky obeyed not knowing what was on them. Same with protecting Jay/Jessica. He could've been ordered to by hoody, or he just went for the current biggest threat to him, or he just has a passive hatred for alex.

As far as the TTA videos, I can picture hoody trying to make this complex code, while masky sits over his shoulder "NO ADD THIS TAPE OF A TV GETTING SMASHED I MADE" hoody chuckles and adds it in with his message.

I just don't get what hoody's motivation is, like what does he want? At one time he seems to want Jay to team up with Tim. The next he appears to be trying to brew distrust between them.

Maybe hoody is trying to get Jay to use masky in a similar matter to how he does? The general message for his latest activities being "hey, see you can change him into a relatively obedient dog!"

Perhaps masky does have his own agenda and betrayed hoody?

Maybe slendy affected people end up with 3 states? Proxy mode where they do everything in there power to feed slendy, some middle state where they're free from slendy's influence but still not their normal selves, and then full human state. That could explain the house chase as masky leading Jay into the operator, the other attacks/appearances of masky were the pseudo state, and then Human form being the normal Tim? This would explain Alex's mood swings as well as hoody's changing priorities.

/end braindump

Though I definitely agree that masky remembers everything Tim does, but not vice versa. If Tim does remember everything in his masky state, then he's most certainly a bad guy or anti hero.

I'm going to go back through the TTA videos... See if I can't find anything :/

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I personally don't think Tim was ever being stalked by hoody, I think they were working together way back in season 1. It's just a matter of how much of season 1 is actually still canon


OOG [spoiler]We are to assume everything that's happened is canon until told otherwise. If we open the possibility that anything could have not actually happened, any further speculation would be pointless since possibilities would become endless. If we are supposed to pretend something didn't happen, trosephim would tell us./spoiler]

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Tim and Jay finding this tape gives me a thought that never really crossed my mind until now. The hooded person obviously has something to do with ToTheArk, or may even be ToTheArk. The hooded person also seemed to have left the tape in that room for them to discover. Even though The Hooded Person wasn't an established character in Season 1, ToTheArk was. This would mean that The Hooded Person may have been the person that left the Entry #22 tape at the red tower back in Season 1, even though their debut wasn't until Entry #41. Now that I think about it, this person may be a lot of the explanation for some of the events of season 1. Since the hooded person has been implied to work with Tim while he is "Masky", maybe they were in the house from Season 1 with him and J the entire time? It's possible that the footage of J coughing on the floor in Entry #16 could have been The Hooded Person filming J, not Tim. And since Tim seemed to be in a pretty "normal" state of mind during the original "Marble Hornets" student film production, it's possible that the person recording in "Exit" (the ToTheArk video that was filmed during Entry #13, when J is going back to Alex's car to retrieve the spare battery) may have been the hooded person.

I don't know, just stuff that I was thinking about.



How do you have so many posts...are you new to the MH side of unfction? It has been practically confirmed and definitely a prominent theory that Hoody either IS TTA or is apart of it.


Lol. I've been here for a while now, I just don't regularly post. And my post wasn't to clarify that the hooded person is ToTheArk, because I think we have all known that they are connected with it for a long while now. I was just thinking about how they could have come into play during Season 1, even though they weren't established as a character yet.

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Teedub wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
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Tim and Jay finding this tape gives me a thought that never really crossed my mind until now. The hooded person obviously has something to do with ToTheArk, or may even be ToTheArk. The hooded person also seemed to have left the tape in that room for them to discover. Even though The Hooded Person wasn't an established character in Season 1, ToTheArk was. This would mean that The Hooded Person may have been the person that left the Entry #22 tape at the red tower back in Season 1, even though their debut wasn't until Entry #41. Now that I think about it, this person may be a lot of the explanation for some of the events of season 1. Since the hooded person has been implied to work with Tim while he is "Masky", maybe they were in the house from Season 1 with him and J the entire time? It's possible that the footage of J coughing on the floor in Entry #16 could have been The Hooded Person filming J, not Tim. And since Tim seemed to be in a pretty "normal" state of mind during the original "Marble Hornets" student film production, it's possible that the person recording in "Exit" (the ToTheArk video that was filmed during Entry #13, when J is going back to Alex's car to retrieve the spare battery) may have been the hooded person.

I don't know, just stuff that I was thinking about.



How do you have so many posts...are you new to the MH side of unfction? It has been practically confirmed and definitely a prominent theory that Hoody either IS TTA or is apart of it.


Lol. I've been here for a while now, I just don't regularly post. And my post wasn't to clarify that the hooded person is ToTheArk, because I think we have all known that they are connected with it for a long while now. I was just thinking about how they could have come into play during Season 1, even though they weren't established as a character yet.


I'm pretty sure that we have always assumed that s/he was the stalker in season 1, S/he just donned the mask when they had to interfere in person

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censura_umbra wrote:
Teedub wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
Teedub wrote:
Tim and Jay finding this tape gives me a thought that never really crossed my mind until now. The hooded person obviously has something to do with ToTheArk, or may even be ToTheArk. The hooded person also seemed to have left the tape in that room for them to discover. Even though The Hooded Person wasn't an established character in Season 1, ToTheArk was. This would mean that The Hooded Person may have been the person that left the Entry #22 tape at the red tower back in Season 1, even though their debut wasn't until Entry #41. Now that I think about it, this person may be a lot of the explanation for some of the events of season 1. Since the hooded person has been implied to work with Tim while he is "Masky", maybe they were in the house from Season 1 with him and J the entire time? It's possible that the footage of J coughing on the floor in Entry #16 could have been The Hooded Person filming J, not Tim. And since Tim seemed to be in a pretty "normal" state of mind during the original "Marble Hornets" student film production, it's possible that the person recording in "Exit" (the ToTheArk video that was filmed during Entry #13, when J is going back to Alex's car to retrieve the spare battery) may have been the hooded person.

I don't know, just stuff that I was thinking about.



How do you have so many posts...are you new to the MH side of unfction? It has been practically confirmed and definitely a prominent theory that Hoody either IS TTA or is apart of it.


Lol. I've been here for a while now, I just don't regularly post. And my post wasn't to clarify that the hooded person is ToTheArk, because I think we have all known that they are connected with it for a long while now. I was just thinking about how they could have come into play during Season 1, even though they weren't established as a character yet.


I'm pretty sure that we have always assumed that s/he was the stalker in season 1, S/he just donned the mask when they had to interfere in person


Yeah, but I guess I was just addressing that it's odd to think of the hooded person being in Season 1 when they weren't seen on camera until Entry #41. Maybe it's only intriguing to me, lol. My bad

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 		No worries I probably just misunderstood your point.

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Judging from the foliage, and the consistencies in footage, from a production standpoint this entry was almost certainly filmed at/around the same time as entry 65 (3ish months ago) meaning it was more than likely just being edited, not filmed, in the recent weeks. Hopefully this means that recently they have been working on filming new entries and there will be less of a time lapse between now and the newer entries. Although it is completely possible that not much has been done in production in the past few weeks.

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 		I just realized something. What if Tim is a sociopath and not schizo? Like when his pills were taken he didn't slip into a new personality, he just dropped the charade of being normal. I think it is unlikely but if they are staging it to make Tim the bad guy it would be interesting.

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according to this page, Tim doesn't seem to be a sociopath, unless he's completely lying about everything. Which is sociopathic, yes, but some of the things are blatantly opposite, like the example about work ethic, he seemed to have very strong feelings about working. Hmmm.

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http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

according to this page, Tim doesn't seem to be a sociopath, unless he's completely lying about everything. Which is sociopathic, yes, but some of the things are blatantly opposite, like the example about work ethic, he seemed to have very strong feelings about working. Hmmm.


Holy crap, I have a friend who meets a lot of that criteria...

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 		I'm not sure if Tim even has a mental disorder. It could all be paranormal; However, he does take pills that seem to alleviate his symptoms, so maybe it is indeed a disorder of some sort. I guess I'm going to lean toward that way, because I really don't think that Troy, Joseph, and Tim would have the story set so that every single event is paranormal. That would be too cliche.

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Holy crap, I have a friend who meets a lot of that criteria...


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A friend


Suuuure, that's what they aaall say.

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elford wrote:
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

according to this page, Tim doesn't seem to be a sociopath, unless he's completely lying about everything. Which is sociopathic, yes, but some of the things are blatantly opposite, like the example about work ethic, he seemed to have very strong feelings about working. Hmmm.


Yes but the work ethic could be a cover. And there are plenty of sociopathic business people lol

I have to work could = I have to scheme

Like I said, schizo sounds more likely with this narrative, but socio Tim would be kinda badass. Like when he left to get his pills back, he walked out so calmly, like "someone's going to die tonight" meh would be interesting still doubt it though.

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 		Dissociative Identity Disorder is not Schizophrenia
Just thought I'd clarify as there seems to be some confusion here. Schizophrenia and Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID, or Multiple Personality Disorder) are not the same thing. I don't know what the co-morbidity (rate at which two illnesses/diseases occur at the same time) of Schizophrenia and DID is, but they are two separate diagnostic categories. So Tim switching between Tim and Masky is suggestive of DID, while Tim and his breakdowns are suggestive of Schizophrenia. I doubt this will help clarify anything from MH itself, but it may help clarify the language on the forum a bit.

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 		Re: Dissociative Identity Disorder is not Schizophrenia
Supersox wrote:
Just thought I'd clarify as there seems to be some confusion here. Schizophrenia and Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID, or Multiple Personality Disorder) are not the same thing. I don't know what the co-morbidity (rate at which two illnesses/diseases occur at the same time) of Schizophrenia and DID is, but they are two separate diagnostic categories. So Tim switching between Tim and Masky is suggestive of DID, while Tim and his breakdowns are suggestive of Schizophrenia. I doubt this will help clarify anything from MH itself, but it may help clarify the language on the forum a bit.


You are right. I apologize I forgot this difference. I will be sure to use the correct term in the future

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Holy crap, I have a friend who meets a lot of that criteria...


Serum wrote:
A friend


Suuuure, that's what they aaall say.


Well, I don't know if I'd call him my 'friend,' more like a 'vague, malevolent force in my life that makes everybody laugh then pisses everybody off.'

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