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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2013
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Lithp
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You know, I really hate to always be the one who rains on everyone's parade, but I really have to point this out again:

If HABIT is literally controlling the entire remaining cast, then why would they be competing against each other?

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WestRoadSal
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Lithp wrote:
You know, I really hate to always be the one who rains on everyone's parade, but I really have to point this out again:

If HABIT is literally controlling the entire remaining cast, then why would they be competing against each other?



And that goes back to the theory of when HABIT kills a Fairmount 4 child, they don't respawn. This is Habit's agenda.

Jeff and Steph were killed by Habit's hand.
Where are they?

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device
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I still would think that Vin is Slender-influenced/motivated.
On Steph's old blog, when Habit was making his victims write down their experiences, the victims would claim that Slenderman....

"I've tried 8 times in the last 3 days. But now my will is gone. The faceless man won't let me,"

"A tall man. Without a face. I still cant believe he's real. But he is. He's the reason I can still type, and the reason I don't pass out from the pain. Somehow he keeps me awake. His stare is almost soothing, like morphine."

And Habit himslelf said to Jeff "His attempt to break you, that stick in the mud. See, He hates that He can't control you. He can control lots of people, don't know if you knew that. Not you, no. Not you, not Steph. Not Corenthal. That's why he punishes them. "

That's why I think Vin is so oddly, eerily calm most of the time. That, and the fact he seems to vomit black goo quite a bit (and the other characters NEVER did).

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THmanslayr
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Wait, device, can you clarify what you're talking about? I think it might make sense but I'm not sure what you're saying.

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ChildOfAtomModerator
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device wrote:
And Habit himslelf said to Jeff "His attempt to break you, that stick in the mud. See, He hates that He can't control you. He can control lots of people, don't know if you knew that. Not you, no. Not you, not Steph. Not Corenthal. That's why he punishes them. "


Where is that quote from?

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AdaMiSt
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ChildOfAtom wrote:
device wrote:
And Habit himslelf said to Jeff "His attempt to break you, that stick in the mud. See, He hates that He can't control you. He can control lots of people, don't know if you knew that. Not you, no. Not you, not Steph. Not Corenthal. That's why he punishes them. "


Where is that quote from?


His theatrical intro to torturing Jeff

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Huh. Somehow I overlooked that little piece of the speech entirely...

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I seriously dont buy Vinny being inhabited. At least not ON camera. Its very likely HABIT could be controlling vinny (or trying to) to some extent when hes off camera (the episode where Vin found the flash druve and all the kitchen KNIVES spread out on the counter? definitely a calling card of HABIT as opposed to Slenderman) However the majority of Vinny's behaviour changes seem to involve his emotions becoming dulled and numb, which pretty logically speaking could be any number of things, including Slenderman influence, but also could be a sign of perfectly normal and non-supernaturally related grief or some manner of defense mechanism.

EDIT:

Im almost gonna be happy when we get to the end of this, or close to the end, so long as it finally brings us some closure and some answers as to why HABIT Slenderman and The Rake all exist in this same universe. Maybe it really is just a video series with slenderman/creepypasta cameos after all, hahaha. Cause everything seems to focus on Habit and as of now the Rake is just kinda thrown in there for shits and giggles, it really irritates me cause Im holding out hope Ill be amazed by the revelation when it finally comes but in the mean time it just kinda makes me go "wtf where is slenderman?"

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AdaMiSt
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I honestly don't know that I believe it either, it was just a thought. I mean, there is the idea of Habit de-humanizing his potential shells to make them more suitable. This was an idea for why the Seven Trials were the way they were. So killing Vin emotionally would certainly play to that, and I wouldn't put it past HABIT to simultaneously mess with the audience and the remaining two. Throw us off the scent so we don't go in the right direction for help.

In actuality though, they seem to have foregone with the fact that they are posting to the internet and instead are now just telling the story. Insofar as it needs to be told uninterrupted.

Again, just a passing thought, I don't buy it completely. Just thought it was an interesting idea.

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Anonymousity
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Series end as Vin smashing head on mirror "How is Jeffy?"

You guys typed so much RELEVANT stuff in the last four pages, I do not feel like sharing my theory, but...

I think that a large clue is the CV4. These guys are in a different space and still in their "current" form. HABIT can cross there.

I still think that there is some video game/god reference at play here, something like this...

God created a dual universe. One is ours, one is the Candleverse.

The Candleverse was created as a sort of "spirit"-plane, in which spirits would reign, while in our universe, mortals rule.

One of the Candleverse-entities managed to come to the "other" universe. This entity, for some reason, cannot be trapped (it could also be that god sent this "evil" entity here for... reasons!) and is looking for power over the mortals.

He finds four spirits/half-human-half-spirit souls which may or may not help him control the universe.

Meanwhile, God/his angel try to safe as much as they can, keeping the universe intact so as not to have the evil entity destroy everything.

What we are seeing now is the entity using a backdoor. I am still sure that Jeff isn't dead. Burned, Rake'd, maybe, but not dead. The evil entity uses us as makeshift hosts (7 trials) to trick god/his angel and survive a potential RESETING of the universe.

MAYBE!!

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Lithp
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AdaMiSt wrote:
ChildOfAtom wrote:
device wrote:
And Habit himslelf said to Jeff "His attempt to break you, that stick in the mud. See, He hates that He can't control you. He can control lots of people, don't know if you knew that. Not you, no. Not you, not Steph. Not Corenthal. That's why he punishes them. "


Where is that quote from?


His theatrical intro to torturing Jeff


So I always interpreted this to be referring to, at least, the Mining Town 4 & Corenthal, but it's interesting that he only identifies Jeff, Steph, & Corenthal.

What's more interesting is that it seems to contradict CYSTW, which implied that Steph was put into a trance by Slenderman & possibly killed her parents.

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THmanslayr
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Anonymousity wrote:
...The Candleverse was created as a sort of "spirit"-plane, in which spirits would reign, while in our universe, mortals rule...
[also stuff about Habit going back and forth]

I'll one up you on that one, and argue that the Candleverse could be the true reality, and our world is just its shadow.

The idea I'm basing this off of is Plato's Theory of Forms.

Plato wrote:
A form is an abstract property or quality. Take any property of an object; separate it from that object and consider it by itself, and you are contemplating a form. For example, if you separate the roundness of a basketball from its color, its weight, etc. and consider just roundness by itself, you are thinking of the from of roundness. This property exists apart from the basketball, in a different mode of existence than the basketball. The form is not just the idea of roundness you have in your mind. It exists independently of the basketball and independently of whether someone thinks of it. All round objects, not just this basketball, participate or copy this same form of roundness.


Forms not only describe objects, but also abstract concepts like "Justice." So then there is a form of Time, a form of Evil, and a form of Humanity; or Everyman.
Hold on, I'm theorizing in this place, hallelujah!

Plato wrote:
All round material objects are merely copies or imitations of this most real form. Thus it is the forms that are ultimately real. Material objects are images or copies of these more real objects. The cave metaphor illustrates these properties of the forms well. The shadows on the wall represent material objects, while the real objects passing before the fire are the forms.

So then we have a dual universe: the Material Plane and the Realm of the Forms, which is the Candleverse. Everything that happens in the real world is a reflection of an event in the Candleverse.

Then, suppose that some of the forms were capable of cognition. After all, there is thought in our world, so there must be thought in the Realm of the Forms.

This is when I stop talking pure philosophy and start applying it to EMH, so be aware that I know Plato would probably not agree with what proceeds.
Forms capable of cognition would have personal agendas, and these would be in conflict with those of other forms. So then in EMH, the Cycle is really the shadow of a War of Perfection that's been going on for God Form of all Forms knows how long. Because these are interactions between pure, perfect concepts, their reflections in the world would be more clear.
i.e. We might be able to perceive time, but looking into Slenderman's eyes is the closest thing we will ever get to seeing its true Form. SM doesn't have to be Time, but that's the basic idea. Habit is form of Evil, Rake could be Anger, Evan could be Justice (swallowing sword, THIS)...

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Ouroborus
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They've been very deliberately evasive in their words as to who they're referring to and when throughout. It's actually quite consistent and lovely(annoying).

Lots of unimplied 'HIM" and 'HER' to the point that we can't honestly say who they're referring to, because it works either way.

So, HE made Fairmount Jeff Daddy kill everyone. HE doesn't like to share his things. HE told me to go north. HE's trying to embarrass me. And then the whole bit about the shes and hers in the wake up video, so we can't convincingly say 'who' for anything.

Add in the factors that Slendy and H seem to have overlapping(or appearing so) powers(possession/mind control) AND a fake slendy suit that the guys can't even tell the difference...there is just a ton of potential for misdirection.

So, long story short, I think there's probably some overlooked depth here.

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Anonymousity
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Ouroborus wrote:

Add in the factors that Slendy and H seem to have overlapping(or appearing so) powers(possession/mind control) AND a fake slendy suit that the guys can't even tell the difference...there is just a ton of potential for misdirection.

So, long story short, I think there's probably some overlooked depth here.


HOLY SHIT, IT'S BEEN JEFF AND EVAN TROLLING VINCE ALL ALONG!!!!!!!!11 Surprised Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Video ends with Jeff pulling off the Slendermask!! HE WAS ON STILTS ALL ALONG!!!!!!!

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It seems like the series is more and more taking the form of a 'game' with the characters being IN the game. What if, what happens in the videos and all, isn't really supposed to be happing in OUR world but INSIDE a sort of game, and the characters are more and more starting to realize that they are in some kind of 'matrix', get what I'm saying? Like they are in some kind of alternate reality...

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