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Who do you think is Hoody and post why.

Sarah
2%
 2%  [ 3 ]
Seth
13%
 13%  [ 17 ]
Brian
74%
 74%  [ 94 ]
Jessica
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Amy
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Sarah AND Seth. (Possible duo)
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 126

 
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Kraehtot
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Maybe I AM Hoody and I didn't notice because of my split personality. Maybe each night I travel to the States in an airplane to stalk Jay and to smile at Alex. And yeah, I've got the money to do that because of my split personality too. Also, I am a girl, but my split personality is a male. This would be AWESOME and unexpected xDDD

No, seriously, I am just exagerating that Very Happy, but if we want, we can explain everythig with the argument of 'split personalities'. We could say the same for all the other characters except those who had been in Hoody's presence. There's only a thing that cannot be explained by split personality: Hoody seems to be in active way before Amy encountered the Operator being with Alex, so that thing of "Hoody is Jessica because TO attacked her room mate and she developed another personality to fight back" does not suit with the timeline. Maybe Jessica has been exposed to TO before, because of the things she described she saw in her dreams, but even if it is true, I don't see why she would have known about Jay and started stalking him and being in gang with Masky.

Edit: I must apologyze for my grammar mistakes T_T I don't have an "English mind" today.
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Lithp
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I expected the "split personality" defense, that's why I focused on timeline inconsistencies.

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They've never had a woman play Hoody because then the entries would come out at a snail's pace trying to get hold of them, plus the female actors are less willing to do things that Trosephim's circle of friends are. At the same time, they do have access to female actors and Troy is certain Jessica is still available. It's completely possible for them to bring her back, especially for a role that was mostly not played by her.


That is one way to look at it. Another way is that they don't ever plan to have a woman play Hoody. If it happened even once, I would drop this defense like a small child. I'd wonder what the shit they're thinking, but I would drop the argument.

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How are you sure of that? If you'd like to point out a totheark video containing Hoody that was released while Jay was uploading hotel footage, go ahead. As far as I can tell, the only times we have seen Hoody is while Jessica was not preoccupied.


Timmasky appears to have a subordinate position to Hoody. This seems very unlikely if Hoody is new. If we want to use the argument that Timmasky is easily manipulated because he's "child like," or for some other factor, then now we have to ask ourselves how he managed to run all of ToTheArk's shit for so long without someone telling him what to do.

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Hoody's dangling the prospect of finding Jessica in front of Jay with the message "shesouthere". If Hoody is Jessica, all this means is she's either manipulative or has a split-personality.


That theory is definitely...something. I don't have any other word for it.

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Not while she was in the hoods but she did after. It's very strange that she started exhibiting such severe symptoms - coughing and headaches - so soon after the encounter with Alex and Masky. Why is Jay less affected than her if she hasn't encountered TO until Entry #52?


I will throw you a bone here, so much emphasis is put on Jessica that I suspect she was more involved than we are currently aware of. It is particularly curious that The Operator regularly appears to her but not, as far as we know, Jay. Still, we don't have anything solid indicating that connection yet.

Then again, The Operator seems to be very inconsistent with how he stalks people, but that's a topic for another thread.

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No relation to the student film doesn't mean she can't be related to TO and the events surrounding it.


See, THAT would be the proverbial "The butler did it!" It's generally agreed that ToTheArk must be someone from the original cast, or else he/she/it/they is just a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere. You could just make him some guy who never appeared before, by this logic.

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Being attacked by TO after returning to the apartment where Amy and Alex ran into it. Being personally attacked aside, the disappearance of her friend would be decent motivation for her taking on a different personality and joining totheark.


Maybe I should have said, "What motive can we ground in the facts?" Actually, I could really apply that to the split personality defense. We have no clear indication that Hoody is anything other than a douchebag in a mask.

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Hoody being more immune than Jessica. Same way Masky can get through the Rosswood tunnel and Jay in Return is ignored by TO.


Even supposing that's true, once again, we're just moving back to another issue. How does Jessica get away from The Operator long enough to become Hoody?

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Again, Hoody is Jessica's split-personality. While it seems more logical to take advantage of how the two know each other, for some reason Hoody decides against this. This behaviour is still strange even if Hoody is someone else, as Hoody seems to want to help Jay but constantly gives the impression that they're the enemy by acting menacing, not directly asking for an alliance and stealing Tim's pills - then taunting Jay about it. Whoever Hoody is, they are either too insane or have an ulterior motive that prevents them from making the logical decision of simply suggesting a partnership.


This, however, is easily explained if Hoody has no immediate connection to Jay. This is why it's more useful for him to manipulate & attack Jay, rather than just ask him out for a drink. Hence, Seth or Brian: Someone he never knew very well--or at least thinks he doesn't due to constant brain wiping--& is supposed to be missing, so--especially to a paranoid mind--he isn't likely to trust them.

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The Condor
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Wow, we're really into this aren't we?

There is a slight chance that Hoody might be someone outside the crew that has yet to be introduced but that'd seem a little... off.

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Hazman
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Kraehtot wrote:
Maybe I AM Hoody and I didn't notice because of my split personality.


Reading this made me think of Skyrim. I got to thinking, maybe I'm Hoody and I just don't know it yet.

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Kraehtot
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Hazman wrote:


Reading this made me think of Skyrim. I got to thinking, maybe I'm Hoody and I just don't know it yet.


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Oh, you've opened my mind. Now I can see it as clear as water: Hoody is the Dragonborn. Shocked

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Hazman
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Kraehtot wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Oh, you've opened my mind. Now I can see it as clear as water: Hoody is the Dragonborn. Shocked


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
His name is not Dovahkiin but Vokun Jul. That's the closest I could get.


Onto something more serious now.

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Malckeor
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Skyrim was a bad game.


Anyway, I'm not sure who Hoody could be. There's valid enough explanations for both Brian and Seth. It feels like Trosephim are making Brian a bit too obvious, though. I don't know.

I was in the lonely camp that Hoody could be Amy, but given Alex's reaction in the most recent entry, it's looking like I'm going to have to leave my cozy camp behind.

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sp103
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Well I've said it before-They are putting a LOT of effort to hide Hoody's identity including gloves and hood. Let's face it-we will able to identify TIM very easily, and since they use other actors to play Hoodie the screwjob could be in and hoody is a female character...Likely Sarah.

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Lithp
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Why do people keep bringing up gloves? Who the Hell uses the hands to identify a person's sex? Actually, let me turn that argument on its head: If they don't care that Hoody looks ubermasculine in some entries, why does he need gloves? We're not going to question how she shrinks down & suddenly grows a pair of breasts, why should it bother us that his hand size, hairiness, & knuckle shape change?

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The Condor
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Malckeor wrote:
Skyrim was a bad game.


Boy, THAT woulda sparked up some serious controversy in another forum i know.

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Hazman
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The Condor wrote:
Malckeor wrote:
Skyrim was a bad game.


Boy, THAT woulda sparked up some serious controversy in another forum i know.


But everyone here is grown up and knows each is open to their own opinions.

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Toadbert
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Hazman wrote:
The Condor wrote:
Malckeor wrote:
Skyrim was a bad game.


Boy, THAT woulda sparked up some serious controversy in another forum i know.


But everyone here is grown up and knows each is open to their own opinions.


lol

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The Condor
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Hazman wrote:
The Condor wrote:
Malckeor wrote:
Skyrim was a bad game.


Boy, THAT woulda sparked up some serious controversy in another forum i know.


But everyone here is grown up and knows each is open to their own opinions.


I will admit that we have more derailing here than the other, but still it's cool.

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TheOperator
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A lot of this we'll have to agree to disagree on... well, partially agree in regards to Jessica being more involved than it seems. I'll respond where I feel there's still room for debate.

Lithp wrote:
Timmasky appears to have a subordinate position to Hoody. This seems very unlikely if Hoody is new. If we want to use the argument that Timmasky is easily manipulated because he's "child like," or for some other factor, then now we have to ask ourselves how he managed to run all of ToTheArk's shit for so long without someone telling him what to do.


Are we sure he's being manipulated and not working as an equal? I may be wrong about this but I only recall Masky being shown helping Hoody three times. Two of those times involved attacking Alex, which Entry #35 has shown isn't something he needs to be told to do. The other time, he dragged Jay to Hoody's shack. If Masky and Hoody are both members of totheark and had plans involving Jay being in the shack (seemingly so he would be able to work with Tim again), that doesn't mean Masky is Hoody's subordinate, just that they're working together.

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See, THAT would be the proverbial "The butler did it!" It's generally agreed that ToTheArk must be someone from the original cast, or else he/she/it/they is just a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere. You could just make him some guy who never appeared before, by this logic.


Jessica appeared before Hoody did, that's not out of nowhere. As long as the character was introduced before Hoody and is not an impossible choice like Alex or Tim, they're a viable suspect.

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Even supposing that's true, once again, we're just moving back to another issue. How does Jessica get away from The Operator long enough to become Hoody?


Jay told Jessica to leave her door open in Entry #32, apparently so he could quickly intervene if he heard anything going on. Up until he enters her empty room in the next entry, he doesn't report hearing anything. The noises in Jessica's room at night were apparently TO laying on the mindrape while Jessica was alone. So between Entry #32 and Entry #33, Jessica was free of TO directly harming her.

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This, however, is easily explained if Hoody has no immediate connection to Jay. This is why it's more useful for him to manipulate & attack Jay, rather than just ask him out for a drink. Hence, Seth or Brian: Someone he never knew very well--or at least thinks he doesn't due to constant brain wiping--& is supposed to be missing, so--especially to a paranoid mind--he isn't likely to trust them.


It may be possible for Seth to operate like that with a "clear" head, given how little we know about him. Brian, on the other hand, would have needed to have been seriously mentally affected, either developing a second personality or going from a nice guy to a jerkass. Even with no connection to Jay, Brian hasn't been portrayed as cunning and manipulative. He especially wouldn't be that way towards Tim.

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Ixica
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I have to say I believe it's Brian. Here's why:

First, who is Brian to the rest of the cast? Brian was Tim's friend and Alex's friend (can't remember what entry it was mentioned in) and lived close to one of them (or both).

Second, who is Brian in the Marble Hornets student film? He's the lead actor, which means that he'd be around Alex the most. Now who are the ones haunted by the Operator? Alex (possibly since he was a kid but maybe not) and Tim (haunted since childhood).

So, here's my idea of what happened (lots of speculation and probably all of it BS):

Brian was asked by Alex to star in his student film and Brian dragged Tim along to help out.

I don't know who first had dealings with the Operator so maybe it was Alex's fault, maybe it was Tim's. Perhaps it was their meeting that sparked it. I, personally, blame Tim. I think Tim has had the Operator around him, pills or not, and Alex always had the Operator (enttry 37) but never noticed like Tim did: It's been shown that sometimes people don't see the Operator, even if he's in the same room. The Operator might have lost interest in Alex because Alex couldn't see him but I don't have any evidence for that except Alex didn't go crazy until later in life.

I think that the Operator was hanging around Tim and Alex caught him on film. He started seeing him everywhere and the Operator started paying more attention to Alex. Alex went nuts but Tim was fine as ever because he had his magic pills of normality. Brian, due to being around Alex or messing with the raw footage, begins noticing the Operator, too. He confesses to Tim that he's been seeing things and Tim gives him some of his pills that he takes for his hallucinations (Entry 16).

Brian notices Alex running around after or from the Operator or acting strange and starts making a connection. And becomes angry. Brian tells Tim that he thinks Alex is to blame but Tim confesses that he's been seeing the Operator, too, and might have been doing so since he was a kid. Brian comes up with a battle plan. They'd find a way to defeat the creature haunting them. He tries to talk to Alex but Alex is irrational and angry and won't listen.

Later, Alex attempts to give Brian and Tim to the Operator under the guise of filming Marble Hornets (Entry 51) but they get away. Alex later lies about what happened, claims he can't remember, or just shouts nonsense angrily until he and Brian have a falling out. Due to Brian and Tim no longer trusting him and refusing to work with him Alex cancels the Marble Hornets film.

Tim moves in with Brian so that they can take turns looking out for the Operator and watching Alex and they both stop taking the pills. They cover up their faces in an attempt to hide themselves from the Operator and to keep Alex from knowing who they are if he catches them.

Alex, tired, frustrated, and angry, decides to leave the town and be normal again. Jay gets the tapes and Alex is gone (Introduction).

Tim has a breakdown and starts taking the pills again and tries putting it all behind him. Brian keeps going, determined. He learns how to best avoid the Operator, stalks Alex a bit, and becomes very good at surviving, all while trying to find a way stop the Operator. Years later, Brian notices something on Youtube. He starts helping Jay in as subtle a way as possible because he's cautious and wary of Alex's involvement and actions.

I have more of this scenario that deals with TimMasky's involvement, Hoody's doings, TTA, the pills, the ark, Brian's house, Brian's missing status, the bullet casing, and Tim's memory issues but I don't really care to post it all and make this longer than it has to be when someone with better knowledge will correct me soon anyway. Or they'll ask me for evidence of which I have none.

Hoody could also be Seth but I think Brian makes more sense.

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