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[VIDEO] Entry #68
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
I personally think it's more probable that she was telling the truth. If she didn't get kicked out, why would she stay in the hotel? There was no reason for her to stay in a hotel that was creeping her out when she had a home to go back to. And supernatural creepiness aside, why would someone pay to stay in a hotel that was in the same town they lived in?

Jessica and Jay checked in at the hotel at the same time. Since we know that Jay spent so long there because he lost his memory and didn't know what else to do, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the same amnesia affected Jessica, so she did the same thing.

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Zarggg wrote:
CraicIsMighty wrote:
I personally think it's more probable that she was telling the truth. If she didn't get kicked out, why would she stay in the hotel? There was no reason for her to stay in a hotel that was creeping her out when she had a home to go back to. And supernatural creepiness aside, why would someone pay to stay in a hotel that was in the same town they lived in?

Jessica and Jay checked in at the hotel at the same time. Since we know that Jay spent so long there because he lost his memory and didn't know what else to do, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the same amnesia affected Jessica, so she did the same thing.


Yeah she was living with Amy at the point in time right? And then Alex told Jay to bring her and then he took them out to the woods to shoot them, Masky saved them, and then they checked into the hotel at the same time. I don't think Amy had been gone long enough for anything like Jessica missing a few rent payments.

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Ztakk wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
CraicIsMighty wrote:
I personally think it's more probable that she was telling the truth. If she didn't get kicked out, why would she stay in the hotel? There was no reason for her to stay in a hotel that was creeping her out when she had a home to go back to. And supernatural creepiness aside, why would someone pay to stay in a hotel that was in the same town they lived in?

Jessica and Jay checked in at the hotel at the same time. Since we know that Jay spent so long there because he lost his memory and didn't know what else to do, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the same amnesia affected Jessica, so she did the same thing.


Yeah she was living with Amy at the point in time right? And then Alex told Jay to bring her and then he took them out to the woods to shoot them, Masky saved them, and then they checked into the hotel at the same time. I don't think Amy had been gone long enough for anything like Jessica missing a few rent payments.


By the time Entry #27 takes place Amy has been missing for more than 7 months. (She went missing on April 4th 2010, and Entry #27 was posted November 23rd 2010.) That seems like a very long time in terms of missing rent. It doesn't seem to make sense though- if Jessica can't afford to rent half an apartment how can she afford to rent a hotel room for 50 nights?

(Two silly suggestions: Maybe she faked the Masky attack to justify fleeing the hotel without paying. Or maybe Jay lent her the money and that's the real reason he's chasing after her/trying to protect her, she owes him $3000.)

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Zarggg wrote:

Jessica and Jay checked in at the hotel at the same time. Since we know that Jay spent so long there because he lost his memory and didn't know what else to do, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the same amnesia affected Jessica, so she did the same thing.


Jay only stays in hotels because he has nowhere else to go though, his own apartment was burned to the ground. If Jessica didn't get kicked out then she could have just gone home, instead of staying in a hotel that was clearly creeping her out. Without her recollection of what happened in entry 52, she had no real reason to continue staying there.

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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Zarggg wrote:

Jessica and Jay checked in at the hotel at the same time. Since we know that Jay spent so long there because he lost his memory and didn't know what else to do, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the same amnesia affected Jessica, so she did the same thing.


Jay only stays in hotels because he has nowhere else to go though, his own apartment was burned to the ground. If Jessica didn't get kicked out then she could have just gone home, instead of staying in a hotel that was clearly creeping her out. Without her recollection of what happened in entry 52, she had no real reason to continue staying there.


You guys are all forgetting key things though. Jessica didn't get kicked out of anywhere. She ended up at the hotel because of the incident with Alex and the gun, they were hiding out there. She was lying to whoever she was talking to bc she couldn't remember how she got there. It's not like she was kicked out of her house and THEN met Jay...

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pravado wrote:
CraicIsMighty wrote:
Zarggg wrote:

Jessica and Jay checked in at the hotel at the same time. Since we know that Jay spent so long there because he lost his memory and didn't know what else to do, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the same amnesia affected Jessica, so she did the same thing.


Jay only stays in hotels because he has nowhere else to go though, his own apartment was burned to the ground. If Jessica didn't get kicked out then she could have just gone home, instead of staying in a hotel that was clearly creeping her out. Without her recollection of what happened in entry 52, she had no real reason to continue staying there.


You guys are all forgetting key things though. Jessica didn't get kicked out of anywhere. She ended up at the hotel because of the incident with Alex and the gun, they were hiding out there. She was lying to whoever she was talking to bc she couldn't remember how she got there. It's not like she was kicked out of her house and THEN met Jay...


We have an explanation for why she ended up in the hotel in the first place, but I'm not convinced that that's also the reason she stayed there for nearly two months. She's in touch with people from her personal life, as she was on the phone, so she can quite easily find out where she is supposed to be living and save herself a lot of trouble. With the talk of her drinking (which I've never heard clearly, to be honest) it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination that she's been kicked out of places before. In her position most people would get out of the creepy hotel and go to a doctor. I can't helping thinking there's some deep reason why she's not going home.

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When was it established she was there for 2 months? The way it looked when I watched those entries, it as specifically mentioned that they checked in the night before. It was only a couple days.

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I can't believe we're even having this argument. She stays in the hotel because she suspects that the same things are happening to Jay, & therefore Jay is connected to whatever is happening to her. That's why she interrogates him all throughout her stay.

It's literally the exact same thing Jay is doing, but better.

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Lithp wrote:
I can't believe we're even having this argument. She stays in the hotel because she suspects that the same things are happening to Jay, & therefore Jay is connected to whatever is happening to her. That's why she interrogates him all throughout her stay.

It's literally the exact same thing Jay is doing, but better.


Like confronting him over the 3 reasons he was staying at the hotel. Razz

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Which is what I was trying to imply with my post.

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Zarggg wrote:
Which is what I was trying to imply with my post.


I know, but saying, "I can't believe this one guy is having this argument" seemed kind of dickish.

Edited for clarity.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
When was it established she was there for 2 months? The way it looked when I watched those entries, it as specifically mentioned that they checked in the night before. It was only a couple days.


Both Entry #27 and Entry #32 were posted on the day they were recorded, with Entry #27 being posted on November 23rd 2010 and Entry #32 being posted on January 12th 2011, so there's quite a long time between those entries. Initially Jay said he was only going to stay a few days, but the safe forced him to stay put for longer, and he had nowhere else to go to. It feels like it should have happened over a few days (and OOG it took even less time) but it was released over a longer period, implying the length of time was intentional. It could be a case of schedule slippage, but then Jay/Troy would have probably done some hand-waving like "I wanted to upload this right away, but I had to move around for a few weeks" or whatever. It just doesn't seem as reasonable to me that Jessica should do the same thing as Jay- presumably she has friends in this town and she knows the area. Jay's used to living hotels, whereas Jessica probably isn't. Their characters have very different motivations and experiences, so I wouldn't expect them to act in the same way.

Anyway, if the out of game and in universe times are the same for those videos, and there's something more stopping Jessica going home, then that's pretty interesting! If it's just a combination of schedule slippage and suspension of disbelief then there's not much else going on beyond what we've already seen in the videos, and it was a few days.

I'm not trying to start an argument- just pointing out some facts about the timing of the videos. I joined MH part way through Season 2, so this is genuinely the first time I've looked at the chronology of these particular videos in any detail. I was quite surprised by the gap between the entries, given that Jay went out of his way to say that he was uploading videos immediately. I'm also not particularly attached to the idea that they really did stay in the hotel for many weeks, just pointing out that there's evidence in favour of a long stay, despite the popular opinion being that they only stayed for a few days.

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I think we have established by now that when an entry is posted, does not denote passage of time relative to the real world.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
I think we have established by now that when an entry is posted, does not denote passage of time relative to the real world.


It's sort of like a long passage of time that contains a short passage of time in it. It's like the time entry 33 was posted, and people were going, "Oh, it took Jay a whole week to walk over to Jessica's room? Pfft, yeah, that's realistic." and I'm thinking "Yes because that incident was absolutely recorded live."

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I don't know. I could totally believe that Jay got lost.

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