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[VIDEOGAME] Slender: The Arrival
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evanx275h
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Baronness wrote:
Please don't take it personally.


If I seemed like I was, I'm sorry! I was speaking more generally. I definitely don't think it was a perfect game (I'd give it an 7 or 8/10, because I did like it very much), given those glitches and game shortness.

I don't know, I just have a really soft spot for this game, because of how well it was made for an indie game, as well as the fact that it creates a cool interactive connection to the mythos, even better than The Eight Pages did.

Plus, I love a good story. I'm not defending the game; You can have any opinions you want, obviously. I just have certain reasons for liking it.
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Baronness
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 		Understood. I'm forever and always a Marble Hornets fan, so the game's got me in the feels a little bit, there. It's all good.

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Lithp
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The way I took it is that Lauren went to the woods after hearing that scream, thinking it's Kate and she's in trouble, so she goes looking for her.


Not bad, except they're clearly posted, not left lying around. So it would be implied that she left them for someone.

As a coping mechanism, I tend to imagine that there's additional information written on the backs. Something like "I left 8 of these."

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Malckeor
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sweetgums wrote:
So I haven't actually played the game, only watched a few play throughs, and after reading this thread there's just one thing that confuses me.

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If we assume that Lauren had just missed Kate when she got to the house, it's safe to say that when you find CR's charred body in the tower, it was a relatively recent event. Then what about Kate? Did she escape? Or is she actually the proxy (or just a crazy masked person who went insane after seeing CR set himself on fire)? Personally I would stick with the latter theory if it wasn't for Charles Matheson. From the missing poster and his letter I assume that he went missing as a child in that park, had an encounter with the Slender Man, survived, but was never able to fully recover and adapt to society(?). In his letter he mentions he "gives up" in this life, so does that mean he killed himself? Or did he give in to Slender Man's influence and became his proxy?

If Kate is the proxy, why is Charles' existence relevant? And if it's Charles, what happened to Kate? While there is no evidence to support this, Kate somehow managing to escape from the tower (to where?) seems the likeliest possibility, cause you know, sequel hook. It's not like we're sure Lauren is dead, if the "secret ending" is anything to go by. Hadley (AgentParsec) did say that a third sequel is underway, followed by three other games. Maybe Kate will be the Alex Kralie to Lauren's Jay.


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The Slender Man wiki has listed Kate as the proxy. I don't know if we should change that?


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Yeah, there's no way the proxy is Kate in my eyes. Kate was at the tower with CR when he burned himself, which seems to have been recently before Lauren arrived. Charles Matheson is the only one who can be the proxy, seeing as you find his final letter outside of the mines (where the proxy first appears).


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evanx275h
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 		I think that the proxy could be Kate, because while the events suggest that Charles is (and he likely is, I'm just naming all possibilities), there are some things being overlooked.

sweetgums wrote:
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If we assume that Lauren had just missed Kate when she got to the house, it's safe to say that when you find CR's charred body in the tower, it was a relatively recent event.


I don't necessarily agree. Remember that, at the end of level 2, Slenderman "knocks you out" and you wake up the next morning (I assume, if we're not talking about Marble Hornets crazy-week-to-month-long memory loss) by the abandoned mine. There's no guaranteeing that Kate was captured by Slendy too, so she may have had an entire day of movement ahead of us as we played.

That could mean that the events with CR killing himself transpired on the same night that the Eight Pages level occurred; Kate may have gone crazy after seeing what happened to him and surviving, so she may have returned to the mine to either, A, find Lauren, or B, get home.

BUT I'm more than certain that Charles is the proxy, because of this.

He didn't sound very stable... He seemed disconnected from life, so he may have turned to Slendy to give his life purpose. Creepy enough, and it makes the most sense. That proxy looks like he was an animal, the way he moved. And if he was kidnapped as a child (according to the poster) then he probably grew into his crazy proxy identity.

It just fits together better.
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sweetgums
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Lithp wrote:
Not bad, except they're clearly posted, not left lying around. So it would be implied that she left them for someone.

I think that's purely for the sake of being easier to find for the player, instead of having to look for them in the ground, where there's tall grass and dirt and whatnot. You could say the same of the thirteen letters from CR lying around: why would e-mails be scattered around everywhere? (Unless Kate printed them and she had them in her bag too and later lost?).

Though I agree that the pages being posted is not very realistic IG, I wouldn't think too much of it.

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Shaoken
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 		I'd say either Proxy or Slendy put them up as bait for Lauren to lure her further away from safety, with some of CR's notes were put up for Kate and never taken down.

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itookthesquare
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 		I love this game. I truly do. I just beat it on Hardcore mode after a second run and gained all 26 scraps. It's a game that makes you THINK. And trust me this game makes you think.

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Remember. This is made by the legendary Marble Hornets. From what I've gathered is that Alex Kralie is like CR. He's been wanting this to END. He wants to find Jay and Tim so they could die and prevent the Slender man disease from spreading. Masky and Hoody are proxies against Alex/CR/KATE/LAUREN to stop Slendermans duties by suicide/murder.

But why are they scared of Slendy? THATS WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT!!

Note #1 in the game. Look at the scratched out drawings. There must have been a sacrifice in the river (which was probably the older woman who recently passed) that brought the Arrival. Tim also experiences hallucinations where he is drowning and Alex also refers to it to Jay earlier in MH.

As for time travel, Hoodie is probably Jay from the future. Masky is just a current-timed proxy trying to fight what is supposed to be done. They want Alex to die while Alex, being the good guy, wants Jay dead as he has killed Jessica Sara and Brian/etc to prevent Slenderman from entering other lives.

HARDCORE mode, Lauren survives by teleportation, probably to become another proxy or maybe she'll be like Masky/Tim and revolt.

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Hazman
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 		Hey,

I'm having issues with my license key not working.

Anyone know how to fix this? I emailed the support email but after 2 days I haven't gotten a response. :/

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ThinSuit
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 		I like the fact that there is a god mode and a way to unlock all the levels.
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KTsteve
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Baronness wrote:
Oh, hey, I take it you worked on the game? Sorry to rip on it here, and I don't mean any disrespect. But there was an incredible amount of hype surrounding this game, and... yeah. Why was there a deadline...?


Heh, he didn't work on the game, he created it.

The "deadline" wasn't so much a set in stone thing. From what I understood they wanted to get their game out before the hundreds of copycats released their full games. Parsec made the original slendy horror game and wanted to keep it known that it was the original.

So yeah I definitely see what you're saying about the game being short. Though after thinking about it, what else could have been done? You collect pages in the woods, you turn on generators in an abandoned mine, you shut yourself in your house, and you run through a forest just trying to escape. Without adding more variety of bad guys, there's not much else you could do without the game just feeling padded.

If we're rating it, the game gets an 8/10 for the glaring immersion annihilating bug that was present on level 4 and shortness. However if you take into account for 5 dollars I got hours of entertainment, with no filler "side quests", it goes up to a 9.5.

Also, the proxy
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is Charles.... There is literally no doubt in my mind.


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SignerJ
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Lithp wrote:
2. The Eight Pages level is clearly just in there to have the original Slender in there. This one bothers me a lot more. The prologue makes a lot of narrative sense. You go to the house to look for clues, the clues lead you to go find items, & at the end you have a reason to go out back. It even explains why you're doing this at night; you'd have gotten there sooner, but a downed tree forced you to walk the rest of the way.

Then it breaks down at the start of the next level. Why do you have to find these pages? It's not like they have anything substantial on them. You want more, there's like a billion back at the house. How does the character know that she has to find 8? How does this bring her any closer to finding out what that scream was all about? You'd think that the Points of Interest THEMSELVES would be more notable, as they include a recently wrecked car & abandoned campsite.


This. This entire thing. It makes perfect sense, in my mind, and I couldn't figure out any good reason as to why the Eight Pages level was in there, either. It would be great if Parsec could explain his reasoning for including it.



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And, on a completely different point, I would like to put forward my opinion on the large amount of negative feedback this game is getting by people not on this forum.


After thinking about it, the negative feedback is not surprising, if not something to be expected. If anything, this game sticks as close to the mythos as possible. I think that it is really going to be the game that most resembles the largest part of the mythos out of all of the "Slender" games (including the copycats). It has an active, dangerous Slenderman, a proxy, and the complete sense of mystery and fear. The protagonist doesn't even know what is happening most of the time -- which is what the mythos is all about.

Once one figures out how accurate a representation this is of the mythos, it is fairly obvious why there is so much negativity. The mythos, as we all know, is not for everyone. We see this time and again on various series. The hype with S:TEP interested people who aren't usually involved with the mythos into the Slender Man phenomenon. Adam mentions this in one of his interviews. And then we get S:TA, which most anyone and everyone who has played S:TEP will buy. So, of course the people who don't "fit" with the mythos won't like this game. It just isn't their "cup of chow," if that makes sense.

(Sorry if I sounded a bit incoherent!)

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Ztakk
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Malckeor wrote:
sweetgums wrote:
So I haven't actually played the game, only watched a few play throughs, and after reading this thread there's just one thing that confuses me.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
If we assume that Lauren had just missed Kate when she got to the house, it's safe to say that when you find CR's charred body in the tower, it was a relatively recent event. Then what about Kate? Did she escape? Or is she actually the proxy (or just a crazy masked person who went insane after seeing CR set himself on fire)? Personally I would stick with the latter theory if it wasn't for Charles Matheson. From the missing poster and his letter I assume that he went missing as a child in that park, had an encounter with the Slender Man, survived, but was never able to fully recover and adapt to society(?). In his letter he mentions he "gives up" in this life, so does that mean he killed himself? Or did he give in to Slender Man's influence and became his proxy?

If Kate is the proxy, why is Charles' existence relevant? And if it's Charles, what happened to Kate? While there is no evidence to support this, Kate somehow managing to escape from the tower (to where?) seems the likeliest possibility, cause you know, sequel hook. It's not like we're sure Lauren is dead, if the "secret ending" is anything to go by. Hadley (AgentParsec) did say that a third sequel is underway, followed by three other games. Maybe Kate will be the Alex Kralie to Lauren's Jay.


Also

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The Slender Man wiki has listed Kate as the proxy. I don't know if we should change that?


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Yeah, there's no way the proxy is Kate in my eyes. Kate was at the tower with CR when he burned himself, which seems to have been recently before Lauren arrived. Charles Matheson is the only one who can be the proxy, seeing as you find his final letter outside of the mines (where the proxy first appears).


My whole thought on that was it was a red herring and completely useless. There were a few other useless things you collected like the sign saying there were 3 canoes for rent and the park pamphlet (though you could argue this pamphlet was to tell you were you were) and the canoe rules.

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JustJim
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 		I thought it was fairly certain CR was Charles. Why is this not the case again?

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KTsteve
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 		... because charles initials aren't cr....

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