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Official Season 3 Discussion Thread
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Sirnot1
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Ztakk wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.

A proxy is someone who's controlled by Slenderman. I don't see how TTA, Masky, or Hoodie are proxies since I don't think they've ever been shown being controlled by TO.

The only person in the series who has shown any hint of being controlled is Alex, and as far as I remember that was only Entry #43 when he came across TO in the woods and falls to the ground, then gets up and walks toward TO. Everything else has hinted at Alex more working WITH The Operator than under his control

I think that it's definitely likely that Masky was controlled by the Operator. Linking Tim's previous childhood experiences to his alter-ego and his issues with TO makes the assumption extremely likely. We have enough evidence to assume this, unlike TTA and Hoody who haven't shown to have trouble caused by TO.

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:03 pm

Ztakk
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Sirnot1 wrote:

Ztakk wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.

I don't think he is. One minute Masky is attacking Jay, the next he's saving him. And we've already seen Hoodie cause Tim to change at least once and it's known Hoodie is most likely against Alex who's with TO.

Basically for Masky to have been controlled, TO would had to have lost control of him.

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:15 am

Lithp
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I've been--operating--under the assumption that Masky attacks Jay in order to incapacitate him & bring him where Hoody wants him, but he doesn't plan on seriously injuring him, & that's why he goes after Alex with a knife.

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:53 am

NobodyIP
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Ztakk wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.

Yeah, Alex is most definitely the proxy in this series. Don't forget how he doesn't run away from the Operator in #46 and how the Operator always arrives just in time whenever Hoody tries to kill Alex.

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:22 am

Geneaux486
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Lithp wrote:

I've been--operating--under the assumption

Nice.

Lithp wrote:

Back when Jay first met masked Tim, I've wondered since season 2 whether or not it was Jay's mentioning Alex's name that set Tim off and made him attack.

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:01 am

Sirnot1
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Ztakk wrote:

Sirnot1 wrote:

Ztakk wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.

But why does Tim have an alter ego in the first place, then? We were told that it probably stems from his issues at that hospital when he was younger, which may have been because of TO. Maybe now the Operator's control on him is wavering, letting him break free and have control over his will as Masky.

If it was not the Operator who was controlling him as Masky, then who was it? Was it Hoody, or was it simply from Tim's own mental illness?

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:58 pm

Ztakk
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Sirnot1 wrote:

Ztakk wrote:

Sirnot1 wrote:

Ztakk wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

It's no secret that I'm in the "Marble Hornets doesn't have proxies" camp. I just don't see how that concept really fits in the MH narrative.

We know Tim has Multiple Personality Disorder. I don't think anyone is really controlling Tim. With MPD, the other personality is like a completely different person, just in the same body. So I don't think anyone is really controlling Tim, just Masky uses the body. As to why Masky was created I think the general consensus (until we're told otherwise) is just Tim going insane from his exposure to TO so his mind created Masky to help cope/protect him.

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:04 pm

Lithp
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Quote:

Nice.

Why, thank you.

Quote:

Back when Jay first met masked Tim, I've wondered since season 2 whether or not it was Jay's mentioning Alex's name that set Tim off and made him attack.

Hadn't thought of that before. That sounds very possible to me. Would really explain Masky's fluctuations in behavior.

Hoody: Tim! Tim! Stop cowering against the wall, look, Alex is here!
Tim: Where?! I'm gonna killrafalshfapohas!

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:39 pm

BranRainey
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Season 2 is about 50 minutes longer than Season 1. Season 3 is already 20 minutes longer than Season 2.

That Roger Ebert quote is starting to seem slightly out of date. >_>

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:58 pm

Ztakk
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BranRainey wrote:

Season 2 is about 50 minutes longer than Season 1. Season 3 is already 20 minutes longer than Season 2.

That Roger Ebert quote is starting to seem slightly out of date. >_>

Which quote?

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:22 pm

BranRainey
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Hm. I remembered that Ebert praised MH for being "admirably brief" or something, but now all I can find is that admirably brief tweet that he wrote. So maybe I'm actually remembering a different review. Oh well.

I was just poking fun at the fact that the series has totally lost any semblance of brevity. Razz

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:36 pm

Lithp
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So can someone tell me what these "2 editing styles" of ToTheArk's are? Because I'm not seein' 'em.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:26 am

Ztakk
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Lithp wrote:

So can someone tell me what these "2 editing styles" of ToTheArk's are? Because I'm not seein' 'em.

To me, some of the videos seem more evil and malicious, while others seem almost concerned and calm. Yet both styles remain creepy.

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:32 pm

Exetera
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Lithp wrote:

So can someone tell me what these "2 editing styles" of ToTheArk's are? Because I'm not seein' 'em.

I assume you're talking about me, since I've mentioned them recently. They become apparent at around Season 2. It's possible that there are still multiple distinct styles in earlier videos, but the editing is much less regular in those and I haven't had the time to come to conclusions yet. One style uses primarily handicam footage or self-created footage and always uses the pseudo-VCR font, and the other uses primarily stock footage or modified images and does not use the pseudo-VCR font. Jay himself pointed out style variance in a tweet, though I don't know if he was talking about this in particular. I suspect you could also make a case for a "third style" in the minimally-distorted TTA videos that have been posted to Jay's channel recently, Entry #61 and Entry #68.

There are only two videos with any crossover between the styles at all. The first is "Forecast", which uses the pseudo-VCR font for the code numbers but not the titles and has both stock and self-created footage. The second is the most recent TTA video, "Display," which uses stock footage and edited images alongside the pseudo-VCR font. (It's possible that the unusual style is a result of Hoody running into some Alex problems immediately before Display was posted.)

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:08 pm

Lithp
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I ask because I see a lot of people say it.

Also, wouldn't Display & Forecast imply that this is not 2 distinct styles, or if it is, then Jay's conclusion about them meaning 2 different editors was wrong?

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:23 pm

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