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[VIDEOGAME] Slender: The Arrival
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censura_umbra
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Hope this is long enough for you all

Here are mt thoughts about different things in the game and below are my speculative timeline

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Okay, I have read every page to be sure I'm caught up..

The first thing I have to ask is:
WHY HAS NO ONE MENTIONED THOSE GODDAMN DOORS!
Getting through a door was harder than collecting the eight pages IMO. That click and drag mechanic was awful.
As for the Stage 4 bug. I ran upstairs shut the door and turned around, then nearly crapped my pants.. then the game freaked and went black, but I just ctrl + alt + deleted my way back to my desktop, and clicked on the open game and the scene continued.

But why has no one questioned the fact that someone was watching Kate run from SM? Was Kate rewatching the events? Or was CR watching?

Okay, since the moment Lauren steps out of the car, someone is following her. If you walk and then stop walking, you continue to hear footsteps. REALLY freaked me out in the 1st part (when I foolishly ran back to the car after collecting the page in Kate's room, but before hearing a scream, though I did see SM outside) and I paused the game to see the objective and while it was paused I heard footsteps. Which makes me wonder�does this game actually pause?

As for the proxy=CMjr thing, I guess it could make sense, I have the feeling that the mine has been condemned for a while. The final note from CM could be his despair from losing his son, which lead him to close the mine. Also would make sense as to why you first met in the mine, but CR could = CMjr and the proxy could really be kate.

As for the burnt CR, it is obviously CR. If you pay attention to the notes on the walls, it seems as if Kate walked in on him already about to kill himself. He just waited for her to get there. She oviously didn't go through with it. But the burning could have happened a while before Lauren arrived, but what about the forest fire? Did Kate start it as she ran from the body? If so then Kate isn't the proxy. Or did kate see the burning, go crazy, and run back to the house to rummage through it and stalk you? Because it is CLEAR that someone is stalking you since the beginning of the game, which leads me to believe that the proxy is a 4th party, and Kate is still out there.
As for Lauren, she is probably dead. Either she was killed by the proxy or SM, or she fell off the tower. Though that might not have been her that fell off the tower, maybe someone just dropped the camera off the tower in hopes of destroying it?

In short here is my speculation:

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Part 4 happens. Kate jumps out window. Runs away. Leaving her flashlight on the table.
CM/Corpsy/proxy enters the house and trashes it looking for her and leaving weird writing on the wall.
Then Lauren pulls up, and Corpsy starts stalking her (I seriously heard footsteps from the beginning)
At this point Kate is running through the back yard from SM while posting her notes for Lauren to find because she knows Lauren was supposed to meet her.
Lauren gets to the house, finds it trashed, finds the bedroom door locked (meaning no one has been in it since Kate jumped out the window)
Lauren hears kate scream in the woods after posting 8 pages
Lauren follows the breadcrumbs while Kate heads for the "safe place"
Lauren wakes up at the mine, and CM tries to stop her.
Kate is at the "safe place" at this point, probably showing her escape tape to CR.
Lauren finds the tape,
Kate watched CR set himself on fire, Lauren arrives in the area, Kate flees, burning the forest as she goes. CM is still following Lauren. Lauren finds the body, CM attacks her. Maybe SM teleports her to the top of the tower and drops her? IDK. Her fate is unknown. But the fact that Corpsy's face flashed towards the end means that the film has been edited. Meaning CM or Kate picked up the camera at the end.

Okay that is it� have fun picking it apart 

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:40 pm

Lithp
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I actually agree with most of that, but with a few differences:

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First, the door mechanic, I didn't say anything about it because I got used to it after a while, & it was no longer really difficult. I'm much more concerned that running around trees is a thing that Lauren has to think about, although I didn't run into it that much in the recent patches. If I have any problem with it, it's the fact that going up ladders/through doors/etc. doesn't carry through all levels.

With that said:

1. I am 100% positive that the forest fire was started when Kate set her house on fire. "This house has to go, it can't protect me anymore."

2. I don't think the final clips showed any editing or teleportation. Rather, I think that, because it was almost out of batteries, & Slenderman was around, it was constantly cutting in & out as Lauren was trying to fight off/escape the proxy.

3. I do think that Lauren died. Just something about the way the camera behaved as it was falling led me to believe that she was still holding it.

4. I don't know what you mean about someone watching Kate run from Slenderman. Wasn't the whole flashback told from her POV?

5. This is just a question that I don't think anyone's addressed yet: Did the tower actually have a significant function, or was it just a MacGuffin?

Other than that, I think you've eloquently explained most of the game's events.

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:15 pm

Shaoken
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Lithp wrote:

I actually agree with most of that, but with a few differences:

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Other than that, I think you've eloquently explained most of the game's events.

Some counter-points:

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1. But Kate didn't set her house on fire? It was way back at the start of the game, a very far way from the Towe (which is visable from every point in the game bar the mines). The "House had to go" line I took was her abandoning it.

2. I think it was a glitch caused by it's dying battery. Then again I've been asking people if they knew of good screen caps of what flashes but I've only been told someone has gotten them without links *hint hint*

3. The ending is so vague it's really hard to draw solid conclusions. I'd argue that if she was dead it would have been made clear. I'd take hte cheap way out and argue that if the camera really was dropped from the tower it would have broken ad wouldn't have been able to record the final scenes.

4. I think he was confused by that.

5. It was a remote, out of the way location that was easily visable. I suppose you could call it a Macguffin, although I don't think locations can really count. It was a Landmark that the player could use in the second half of the game to identify which way they had to go.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:32 am

Lithp
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1. Phrasing is important. She says, "The house has to go," not "I have to leave the house behind." Or "Have to leave house," if you'd prefer something shorter. That implies getting rid of the house, IE setting it on fire. Besides, it explains why you don't find Kate anywhere near the tower & why the forest fire starts. It is also implied by the fire starting so soon after you have the opportunity to find that note.

2. It's in this topic, I'm really not going to go back & look. It's nothing special, it's just a face. I believe it's an altered version of Corspey mauling you.

3. Well, all I can tell you is my inference, which is that, if it fell on its own, it probably would have moved, wobbled or something, rather than giving us that nice straight-up shot of the tower. It is a little odd that Lauren doesn't seem to flail her arms about, but hey, it's odd that she holds it to her face the whole time. Maybe it's a chest cam? I don't know. I don't think there's much point to saying, "it should have broken," because we know it didn't. It's whether or not Lauren fell with it that is the unknown.

4. Honestly not sure what the point of confusion is. Sorry.

5. Any plot device that draws in the characters' attention is a MacGuffin. The tower is definitely a MacGuffin. What I'm asking is if the claim about it being protective against Slenderman is true, or even if someone like CR or Slenderman had some other purpose in mind for it, or if it's only significant for being a MacGuffin.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:39 am

censura_umbra
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Lithp wrote:

I actually agree with most of that, but with a few differences:

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Other than that, I think you've eloquently explained most of the game's events.

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1) actually if you pay attention outside the house in the beginning, a sign says SOLD. So her getting rid of the house meant selling it. And a note said she was having so much trouble getting rid of it and she is glad she called you (Lauren) meaning either Lauren is a Realtor and helped sell the house, or Lauren bought the house from her childhood friend. Either would also explain why Lauren came to the house.

2) very possible. but the fact that corpseys face popped up feels like TTA style editing to me, but I don't know that much about camera glitches.

3) Good point.

4) I meant when you get to the cave and there is just a video tape in a TV of Kate locking her doors to hide from SM. Why was someone watching that tape? Who was watching it? Was Kate reaching it to find a weakness in SM? Or maybe to just confirm it happened?

5) well it was a radio tower. And knowing the strong effect SM has on electronics, it is possible they believed the tower would shield them or ward him off. Or maybe it was just a ploy by CR to get Kate alone so he could burn her alive. Either way. It didn't work so I doubt it is important.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:11 pm

toclafane212
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Also about the "This leads me to believe the game doesn't pause" If you look in statistics in extras right down the bottom it says "failed pause attempts. So I think you may be right.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:21 pm

Lithp
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The game does pause, I know, I've let it sit for over half an hour on pause, which would get me killed in no time if it didn't. "Failed attempts to pause" refers to the fact that you can't pause if Slenderman (& possibly Corpsey) is near. I have 1 failed attempt, & after we found a certain level on my friend's game (which is impossible to pause in), his Failed Pauses were jacked up to like 27.

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1) I think that was just a way of thanking Lauren for her help. It seems too fantastical to me that either of those things are true--yes, in a game where you are being stalked by a faceless man--because that house looks hella expensive, & the way that the characters talk, I have trouble believing they're older than college student age. Although, I suppose if Kate's mother paid it off & then died, then Kate could let it go for basically any price she wanted. At any rate, I guess you have a point there, but I was so certain that she set it on fire...I'll have to look at this again once I have all of the notes.

2) I don't know anything about camera glitches either. One thing that seems odd about the editing theory is that we don't see the camera being taken away.

3) Thanks. Now I'm really curious as to what method Lauren used to hold the camera. If it was a bodily mounted thing, that would really explain why it doesn't break--Lauren broke its fall with herself. I don't remember whether or not you see it in the loading screen for The Eight Pages, the one time you see Lauren in third person view.

4) Didn't really question that when I was playing, I just assumed that Kate left it for Lauren. But now that I think of it...why? And why did there just happen to be a TV there for her to put the tape in?

5) Disappointing. Was CR trying to kill Kate? That recording was frustratingly unclear, I'd thought that she was just freaking out because she saw that he was planning on killing himself.
Edit 3: Judging from Note 10, CR thought that they could escape by getting out of the forest. I'm not sure if this is before or after he decided to kill himself.

Edit: Scrolling through the topic to find where the collectibles were listed, I found the post containing the images that flash at the end--

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=993794#99379 4

[strike]Edit 2: Whelp, I've switched my graphics at this thing every which way I can think of. I can not read Charles M's letter to save my life.

Edit 4: Found a nice, extensive archive on IGN & managed to read the thing. Didn't really clear anything up.

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:48 pm
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censura_umbra
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1) either way, the fire started and spread from in front of Lauren (in the direction of the building) and presumably the house is behind Lauren. Plus Kate would have needed to double back ALL the way to the house about a days walk. So she would have had to go back while you were knocked out or in the mine. And since the house was sold. Idk why she would need to burn it. It just doesn't add up.

3) I think a better question would be: Why was Lauren recording since she got out of her car? Did Kate warn her to record? Did Lauren have a run in with SM before too? Why did she even have a camera? A chest can isn't something you walk around with randomly either (though due to zoom functions I'm guessing it wasn't a chest can) also since I doubt corpsy was screaming at your chest. But then again it could explain why you don't drop the camera. Still. Why do you have one?

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:23 am

Lithp
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1) I guess all of that is true, although for the motive, I was just saying paranoia & irrationality from everything that happened.

2) I am probably wrong about the chest cam thing, I'm just trying to make sense of some odd things. As for why she's recording, I assume it was to document what she found. Right after you get to the house, the objective changes to "search for clues about Kate's disappearance," implying that Lauren already knows she's missing.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:38 am

TheOperator
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I'm with you on the door controls. Honestly one of the biggest problems I have with this game. It broke the mood several times when I ended up just getting irritated that the doors wouldn't close.

About the tower:

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I think CR told Kate that the tower would keep them safe from Slenderman. His reason for this was that he was planning for them to kill themselves there, so that Slenderman could no longer haunt them. In a sense, it would be keeping them safe from Slenderman, even though it may not actually ward him off if they stay by it alive. Why he chose the tower of all places, 2 reasons:

1. It needed to be an isolated spot but he didn't want the fire spreading to the forest. The mine may not have been safe, as there were all those barrels around, plus it's apparently Charles' haunt.

2. Since CR wasn't really thinking straight, he wanted to place his hope in something more than just the fact they were going to kill themselves and the tower was a suitable candidate, being such a big landmark.

I also feel the radio tower is a metaphor for Lauren, Kate and CR reuniting and killing themselves/each other, since it's a beacon of communication.

Either way, I don't think the tower was just useless. If that was the case, seeing it in the distance for the whole game is no longer impressive. It just leaves an empty feeling.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:30 am

Shaoken
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Lithp wrote:

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5) Disappointing. Was CR trying to kill Kate? That recording was frustratingly unclear, I'd thought that she was just freaking out because she saw that he was planning on killing himself.
Edit 3: Judging from Note 10, CR thought that they could escape by getting out of the forest. I'm not sure if this is before or after he decided to kill himself.

One, thanks for finding the pictures, now what do they mean?! Curse you Troy/Joeseph/Tim!

Second,

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I think the plan was for them to commit suicide together, but CR didn't count on Kate not being behind the idea of suicide by burning to death and running away. He certainly didn't try to chase after her, the body clearly belongs to him since he's the one screaming in agony, so I guess he just gave into dispair and killed himself, leaving Kate to fend for herself.

Hence why I'm in the "Kate is Corpsy" camp, she broke from seeing her mysterious friend about to burn himself, and if she was anywhere nearby hearing his screams of agony, went back down into the mines and got proxied and waited for Lauren to wake up from her Slendy-induced nap and walk in. It at least makes more sense than it being literally some random who has no connection to any of the other characters and whose existance consists entirely of two notes off the beaten path, oen of them requiring you to go looking in a dead end for no reason. Maybe if we compared what we saw of Kate with Corpsy to see if the hairstyles are similar or something.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:27 am

censura_umbra
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But doesn't the fact that troy and co tried so hard to hide those notes make them important? Not just random scenery like the canoe sign

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:41 am

Ztakk
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Apparently there's a secret level in the game. Here's a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9Aoj4GQcco

(no this is not a video of mine. I'm going to test this when I get home.)

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:14 am

AlecZeal1989
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People keep talking about chest cams, but Laurens shadow clearly shows her holding the camera with her hand up to her face...

And I'm surprised it took this long for the secret level to show up on unfiction.

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What it seems to imply about the missing child is pretty freaky

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:35 am
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Lithp
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I don't know why people keep bringing up the proxy's hair. Hair isn't the best identification tool.

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Having it be Kate relies on her randomly becoming a murderous psycho for literally no reason at all. And if you say, "it's because she's proxified," then that contradicts the claim that Charles is too insignificant. Anyone can be the proxy if it's just something that Slenderman kind of does to you at random.

I don't say this in defense of the Charles Theory, either. That still leaves its own holes & conflicting evidence. Honestly, I'm kind of disillusioned with the plot. I think I somehow know less now than I did at the beginning of the game.

I've alluded to that level a couple of times. It works, but it's a real pain in the ass to get into. I'm not sure, but I think Slenderman has to be there, which you obviously can't really control.

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:35 am

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