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[VIDEO] Entry #69
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Lithp
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Quote:

This is just semantics. Whether Jay was actively warping into the future or just percieving time at a faster pace due to whatever was happening to him at the moment, we don't know. What we do know is that day changed to night very quickly.

Uh, yeah, that's kind of the point. That is an important distinction from backwards time travel. Speeding up time relative to Jay will not result in the kinds of time paradoxes that people are theorizing about. As a matter of fact, Jay doesn't seem to be off-time with the rest of the world. He never mentions having to reset his phone because it's on the wrong time, for instance.

If they were going to make time travel a major part of the series, we likely would have seen more evidence of it by now. And Hoody would probably take advantage of it. And he would have never told Alex that was going to be his last birthday, because he would have known that he was wrong.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:01 am

Geneaux486
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Time travel is traveling in space AND time. we only really have evidence of anyone ever traveling through space.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg

See my earlier point about day instantly changing to night and the front door having nothing to do with the lighting in the upstairs rooms or even the first floor.

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Yeah, that distinction is a point I made as well. We aren't disagreeing here.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:11 am

Teedub
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I've always had a simple gut feeling that the "time traveling" from Season 1 was actually related to The Operator manipulating the environment around Jay. I feel as if Entry #65 supports this theory, because The Operator seemed to manipulate the environment around Tim in that entry; however, now that I think about it, that could have possibly been time travel, due to the fact that the bearded guy's dead body hasn't seemed to decay. Welp, now I'm contradicting myself...

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:38 am

twistedpuppet
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pravado wrote:

I still disagree with the notion that there was time travel in entry 23. It appears darker downstairs because the front door, where light was coming in, is now shut.

Plus, we haven't seen any instances of time travel since then. If it was time travel, I'm inclined to believe it was a scraped idea. Time travel would really deteriorate things in this series IMO, teleportation is bad enough. It would make things too unrealistic

SUNOFBEECH~!!!! How is it that YOU, of all people, are the one that gets it that the fucking door closed and that's why everything got dark in that entry???????????

Also, to those talking about the light upstairs "progressively" going darker. That can be explained by this OOG spolier tag:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

They filmed it closed to dusk. That side of the house probably wasn't facing the sun, ergo, it gets darker just a tad bit quicker on the back side of the house. It got progressively darker because Jay was in there for quite a while. The stair case got completely dark because Masky closed the door. You can see in the entry the door downstairs is open when Jay makes his assent. When he looks back down a few minutes later, the door is closed and it's now dark down stairs. Seriously. All of the shit you guys are calling time travel(except for the spacial thing Jay does with his bedroom door) is easily explained.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:40 am

onetruepurple
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I can't believe you bunch made me rewatch #23, I hate rewatching #23.

Anyway, no, it's not the dusk, those two shots happened 40 seconds apart:

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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:01 am

Geneaux486
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SUNOFBEECH~!!!! How is it that YOU, of all people, are the one that gets it that the fucking door closed and that's why everything got dark in that entry???????????

The front door closing did not make everything go dark. Rewatch the entry. When the front door closes, Jay looks down the stairs, showing us that the front door is, indeed, closed, and there is still natural light at the bottom. After a few more room-hops, he looks down again, and it's pitch-black, after the door had already been closed. So there, front door theory disproven once and for all.

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Anyway, no, it's not the dusk, those two shots happened 40 seconds apart:

Plus it's still fairly bright outside when Jay walks in, despite the fact that the sky looks completely cloudy.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:37 am

Serum
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onetruepurple wrote:

I can't believe you bunch made me rewatch #23, I hate rewatching #23.

Anyway, no, it's not the dusk, those two shots happened 40 seconds apart:

Damn. The sun didn't set, it crashed.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:24 am

twistedpuppet
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I've been through this debate before and I proved to you guys back then that the damn door is open when he looks down the first time. After messing around upstairs a bit, he then looks back down AND THE DOOR IS CLOSED. How blind are you people? Really. You wait till I get home tonight. I am going to mass dump on you guys and you are going to regret it.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:08 pm

Lithp
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twistedpuppet wrote:

I might regret it, but I will probably still point out that whether or not a door is open does not account for the level of light lost.

Edit: The purpose of filming close to dusk was probably so that they could make it look like time was advancing quickly, with little editing.

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Yeah, that distinction is a point I made as well. We aren't disagreeing here.

I feel like I'm missing something.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:48 pm
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Geneaux486
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twistedpuppet wrote:

Well first of all, I don't regret it when I'm proven wrong. Everyone makes mistakes. Even so, I didn't make a mistake here, you're wrong about the door. You're also wrong about what I said about the door. I'm not disputing that the door was closed, I'm disputing that the door being closed blocked out natural sunlight and somehow gave the illusion that night changed to day. Jay looked down the stair case at least three times in that entry. The door was open the first time. Yes, the door was closed the second time Jay looked down the stairs. When it was closed, there was still natural light at the bottom of the stairs because of windows and the giant sliding glass door in the back. There was less light than when the door was open, but there was still light. Jay looks down again shortly thereafter, and it's pitch black, no natural light at all. Both times, the door was closed. The door did not make day look like night. Rewatch the entry if you don't believe me and see for yourself.

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I might regret it, but I will probably still point out that whether or not a door is open does not account for the level of light lost.

Yeah, unless someone thinks that a single doorway can illuminate an entire two-story house, including upstairs windows, we shouldn't still be arguing this. Come on, people XD

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:50 pm

Bernie Buddy
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Lithp wrote:

Edit: The purpose of filming close to dusk was probably so that they could make it look like time was advancing quickly, with little editing.

I don't think that the editing would be any different whether they filmed at dusk or in the afternoon.
Just the time filming.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

I'm still unsure about the whole time distortion theory. I can't help but think that the "time distortion" in that entry was accidentally caused by filming the teleportation parts.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:45 pm

Ztakk
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Tim's Suttonchops wrote:

Geneaux486 wrote:

Tim's Suttonchops wrote:

On that note, wouldn't all this really be Jay's fault? As far as we can see, before he started snooping through the tape and bringing up old problems, everyone involved, seemed ~~to be doing pretty well.~~ Except the dead ones, but we'll just ignore that. ~~Again, Idk.~~

See I don't buy into Alex's and Tim's assertion that Jay is the cause of their current woes. It's Alex's fault for doing these things in the first place then giving the tapes to Jay, and the Operator's fault for Operating on peeps in the first place. Jay did what any curious/concerned friend with nerves of steel and no gun would do in season 1.

I guess so, yeah. But I certainly agree with them in some sense. He may have been doing what a concerned friend would, but he is the reason this started up again, justified or no. Maybe ''fault'' isn't a good word, but I can't think of anything else.

The whole thing of blaming Alex because he gave the tapes to Jay is like blaming a car salesman for selling me a car that I used to drive through someone's house.

Serum wrote:

onetruepurple wrote:

I can't believe you bunch made me rewatch #23, I hate rewatching #23.

Anyway, no, it's not the dusk, those two shots happened 40 seconds apart:

Damn. The sun didn't set, it crashed.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Tim knocked it down

On the whole time travel thing, I think it could be some sort of time distortion (or travel, whatever you want to call it). In Entry #65 we see something dealing with time travel. Tim goes on a wild adventure in the short time it takes Jay to get back to the parking lot, and he even beats Jay back to the cars so something involving time is happening.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:59 pm

Zarggg
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twistedpuppet wrote:

If you insist on doing this, please do it in the Entry 23 thread (or at least the Season 3 general thread)

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:00 pm

twistedpuppet
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Zarggg wrote:

twistedpuppet wrote:

If you insist on doing this, please do it in the Entry 23 thread (or at least the Season 3 general thread)

Ok, but I'm gonna post the link to that post in here so as to respond to people in here about it. That cool?

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:45 pm

kurthnaga
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Joined: 22 Feb 2013
Posts: 55

Lithp wrote:

If they were going to make time travel a major part of the series, we likely would have seen more evidence of it by now. And Hoody would probably take advantage of it. And he would have never told Alex that was going to be his last birthday, because he would have known that he was wrong.

I've seen a couple of theories that Hoody is Jay from the future. Although this may seem a bit far-fetched, it would certainly somewhat explain why hoodie doesn't want Jay to know who he is. I just don't want this to turn into a series focused on a paradox.

As to the rest of you, who are spending your time arguing about Entry 23, I don't know who to believe. I'm leaning more towards the theory that Jay was moving forward in time, by the :40 example, but there's also the chance I'm just really bad at observing things.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:02 pm

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