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[VIDEO] Entry #70
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ak1287
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Animal wrote:
pravado wrote:
Oh really? Please tell me what new information we've gained from this entry, or what new behaviors Alex is showing us.


amy and tim are from the same town and they shot MH vids when he went up to see her

he didn't want jay to know/see this


Small clarification; Amy is going to school there, but I didn't get the impression that she's from there.

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Geneaux486
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Troy was not a necessity for this entry. The whole thing was 3 takes, and there was nothing for him to really direct. If he was in the hospital, Joseph and Tim could have picked up the slack. Outside of the operator (assuming someone was playing him) it requires just Joseph. How hard is it to go to a friend and say "hey can you stand here and put your hands up when he comes near you"


Yes, they could have cut corners. They didn't. Who cares? What does their decision to take it slower have to do with the quality of the entry? Nothing.

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The claim that this entry was similar to other entries so I should like it or not be a fan is bullshit.


That's not what I said. I expressed my confusion as to what you liked about the other 85% of the series that employed that format relative to this.

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They should strive to show us new things instead of the same tired shit over and over again.


Again, if the repetetiveness bugs you, how did you stay into this show past entry 7?

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You are most certianly a fanboy, or at the very least the strongest pravado hater on the site.


I'm not a fanboy, nor am I easier to please than you are. Like I've said before, when you talk about the quality of these entries, you ignore every aspect of them that doesn't suit your argument. My expectations aren't higher or lower than yours, they're just different. And I actually don't dislike you at all, I think you're a good guy. I disagree with you. Takes a lot to make me hate someone (nobody I've met in this world has managed to pull it off yet), and having differing opinions on an internet show doesn't fit the bill.

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You are the only person who feels the need to shove your opinion down my throat personally in every entry thread.


I respond to your posts like everyone else does for everyone else. I'm not shoving anything down your throat any more than you're shoving anything down mine, I'm stating counter-points to your points.

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Oh really? Please tell me what new information we've gained from this entry, or what new behaviors Alex is showing us.


Alex's relationship with Amy extending this far back, his burning at least one tape mentioning her name. What new behaviors? How about a small fraction of the gap in Alex's attitude towards the Operator between cautious curiosity and all out doing its bidding. We've seen him submit to it, we've seen him spy on it, when have we seen him confront it?

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KTsteve
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 		But maybe he couldn't leave him in the water? Like he was physically incapable of not teleporting him to safety?

It's a far reaching theory no doubt, but it at least makes more sense then Sarah being the operators sister and totally being the mastermind behind the whole thing

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again, stop the oog discussion here, there's a thread for that http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37451, 2 in fact


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TheSupremeFace
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 		This argument looks interesting Razz
*grabs popcorn*

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pravado
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 		And like i said before, entry #4 shows alex chasing the operator. It was obvious to me that he went through a curiosity stage back when he first found out about the operator.

I also argue that entry 13 shows him running towards the operator instead of away, but people will see what they want to on that one.

So the only new takeaway is that Alex and Amy were dating back during production, but unless Amy ends up being totheark, I fail to see how they're going to spin that into something mindblowing. Alex makes the claim that "brian is gone" after we see him set up brian, and gives that tape to Jay. So holding this one back because of Amy's name doesn't make sense to me, unless they're setting up Amy to be totheark (in which case I can pose a few questions that would really shake the foundations of that reveal)

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Exetera
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pravado wrote:
Oh really? Please tell me what new information we've gained from this entry, or what new behaviors Alex is showing us.

  • Alex and Amy were dating much earlier than previously thought.
  • Alex wanted to hide his relationship with Amy for some reason.
  • Alex was attracted to the Operator to the point of lying to cover for visiting him even before he'd figured anything out about him. ("What do you want?")
  • The Operator can be deliberately "invoked," as Alex seems to do here, through relatively mundane (ie. not killing) methods.
  • The Operator can have an affinity for locations other than Rosswood Park.
  • The Operator has an affinity for this particular kids' playground for some reason. (Perhaps Jay and Tim will try to visit it?)
  • The dropped audio common to early S1 was likely not distortion, as it doesn't appear in this near-recreation of Entry #4 (which had the dropped audio).
  • (Speculative) Alex had some reason not to stop the car when he was called.


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Valamist
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 		That was a great episode, very reminiscent of S1 what with its shorter length and mysterious atmosphere. I like how this series is concentrating a little more on the background characters, and returning to it's roots in a way.

I'm looking forward to seeing how they develop Alex in what time they have left. I still think he is a some-what willing accomplice to The Operator, and it would be quiet cool if they could explore his relationship with TO before the end.

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That being said, a small part of me still thinks he may be the mastermind of it all, and The Operator a pawn or weapon. Unlikely, I know, but still . . .


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Animal
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pravado wrote:


But we know this already. We know Amy was from the town with rosswood because of entry 43. We know Tim was from there because of his patient records. We also know Alex shot stuff up in that town because the hospital is near that town (which we know cause again, Tim grew up there, why would he be going to a hospital that's tens of miles away)


that's true, but maybe she was stalked as a kid as well? Doesn't suggest it, but it's a possibility.

I think the "blip" we hear at 4:34 is the camera detecting that the operator teleported behind him. Right after he turns around and he's there

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CraicIsMighty
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pravado wrote:
What a load of shit. This entry was worse than fucking ameteur work. I get there's more important things in life, but good lord did they even take more than 3 minutes to write this one out?

I could shoot all of this in an hour tops. Takes them 2 weeks, even though it only requires 2 people to film (maybe even only one person if the operators arms weren't going to move.)

They're going to reveal that Amy is totheark or something lame. Even though that won't work because tta knew about the operator before the entry 26 tape, and amy acted like she just saw him for the first time. God, I cannot express how stupid and pointless this entry was.

Now to read ten pages of fanboys praising this entry.


You're really jumping to conclusions here. I don't see how Amy possibly being the reason Alex burned the tape means that Amy is TTA. And even if she is TTA, i don't see why it would be so impossible. We know next to nothing about the girl other than that she was dating Alex and disappeared. She could have faked her reaction to Oppy in entry 26. I mean, if she really was TTA, wouldn't she want Alex to think she had no idea about TO?

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michaelO2000
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 		I an not sure if this has already been said, but I'm guessing this entry takes place before Entry #4. After Alex saw TO he changed the tape and tried to find him again.

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Geneaux486
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michaelO2000 wrote:
I an not sure if this has already been said, but I'm guessing this entry takes place before Entry #4. After Alex saw TO he changed the tape and tried to find him again.


What's stopping me from agreeing with that is how Alex stops at the swing in this entry, then spins around to look at the trashcan, essentailly recreating the motions of entry 4, which implies to me that he was trying to recreate the circumstances in which he initially saw the Operator.

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pravado
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
pravado wrote:
What a load of shit. This entry was worse than fucking ameteur work. I get there's more important things in life, but good lord did they even take more than 3 minutes to write this one out?

I could shoot all of this in an hour tops. Takes them 2 weeks, even though it only requires 2 people to film (maybe even only one person if the operators arms weren't going to move.)

They're going to reveal that Amy is totheark or something lame. Even though that won't work because tta knew about the operator before the entry 26 tape, and amy acted like she just saw him for the first time. God, I cannot express how stupid and pointless this entry was.

Now to read ten pages of fanboys praising this entry.


You're really jumping to conclusions here. I don't see how Amy possibly being the reason Alex burned the tape means that Amy is TTA. And even if she is TTA, i don't see why it would be so impossible. We know next to nothing about the girl other than that she was dating Alex and disappeared. She could have faked her reaction to Oppy in entry 26. I mean, if she really was TTA, wouldn't she want Alex to think she had no idea about TO?


See my above post that I just made. If Amy was a throwaway character and this is just revealing that alex set her up to be operated as well, he wouldn't have burned the tape. (he didn't burn the tapes from entry 22 or 51 and personally kept at least one of them - why burn this tape that has no incriminating evidence other than mentioning her by name and then not burn tapes that showed him sacrificing his friends) - This to me says that Amy is significant, moreso than the other characters who we've seen sacrificed. The only person that fits that role in the series is TTA

The only other thing I can think of is that Alex didn't want people knowing where he was going when he moved, and fat lot that did him considering he gave away his own position in entry 26.

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Geneaux486
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pravado wrote:
See my above post that I just made. If Amy was a throwaway character and this is just revealing that alex set her up to be operated as well, he wouldn't have burned the tape. (he didn't burn the tapes from entry 22 or 51 and personally kept at least one of them - wouldn't he have kept his own girlfriends over theirs?) - This to me says that Amy is significant, moreso than the other characters who we've seen sacrificed. The only person that fits that role in the series is TTA


Maybe Alex burned the tapes mentioning Amy first so that nobody would be able to find him after he skipped town. He mentioned in at least this tape that Amy's home is where he wanted to go after he was done filming, maybe he got even more specific about the location in the other burned tapes as well. Even after you explain your reasoning, you're still jumping from A to Q on this one.

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ak1287
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Geneaux486 wrote:
michaelO2000 wrote:
I an not sure if this has already been said, but I'm guessing this entry takes place before Entry #4. After Alex saw TO he changed the tape and tried to find him again.


What's stopping me from agreeing with that is how Alex stops at the swing in this entry, then spins around to look at the trashcan, essentailly recreating the motions of entry 4, which implies to me that he was trying to recreate the circumstances in which he initially saw the Operator.


I actually disagree slightly on this.

While I think it's possible, I don't necessarily think he's recreating the exact motions; I think he was investigating the area, and something startled him. That something, of course, being a guy with no face and a black suit. Which is actually a common sight at a children's park when it's completely dark out, at least in my neighborhood.

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AllyJacqui
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 		ah, Wouldn't be marble hornets without Pravado bitching about something. If you hate all of these entries so much, why do you keep watching them?

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